qmail Digest 6 Feb 2001 11:00:01 -0000 Issue 1267

Topics (messages 56672 through 56732):

Problem with queue
        56672 by: ari.doctordata.com.br

Re: Qmail on FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE
        56673 by: Erwin Hoffmann
        56694 by: Alex Povolotsky
        56728 by: Bruce Dang
        56729 by: Nick

ftgate & smartpop
        56674 by: keng heng

Re: re : user Masq
        56675 by: Charles Cazabon

Re: How can I delete all unsended mails in "/var/qmail/queue"?
        56676 by: Dave Sill

qmailadmin + vpopmail + sqwebmail
        56677 by: Yee Siew Chin
        56685 by: Wilson, Frank
        56686 by: Hubbard, David
        56687 by: Henning Brauer
        56688 by: Henning Brauer
        56691 by: Olivier M.
        56717 by: Yee Siew Chin

filter ip
        56678 by: Pablo Martin De Natale
        56679 by: Brett Randall
        56683 by: Graphic Rezidew

using lwq I get an error with supervise
        56680 by: Neil Grant
        56689 by: Dave Sill

Postmaster alias setup
        56681 by: Matt Simonsen
        56682 by: Charles Cazabon

Re: bouncesaying and maildrop
        56684 by: David Benfell
        56708 by: Alex Pennace
        56709 by: Adam McKenna

using a differnet home dir
        56690 by: Dale Herring
        56696 by: Dave Sill

Re: qmail port
        56692 by: Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira
        56697 by: Dave Sill
        56700 by: Mike Jackson
        56701 by: Dave Sill
        56706 by: Andy Bradford

Re: Delay in POP and SMTP response
        56693 by: Campos Mario

How to make a nobody account ?
        56695 by: Irwan Hadi
        56698 by: Charles Cazabon
        56699 by: Dave Sill

serialmail
        56702 by: Gavin McCord

Turn off Msglog ; Backup Mail Queues?
        56703 by: Brandon Yu
        56707 by: Charles Cazabon

Re: How does SVSCAN work ?
        56704 by: Andy Bradford

badmailfrom...
        56705 by: Jean Caron
        56710 by: Markus Stumpf

qmail packaging
        56711 by: Aaron Carr
        56712 by: Ryan Marsh
        56713 by: Charles Cazabon
        56725 by: Vincent Danen

virtualdomain/smtproute
        56714 by: Michael Boyiazis
        56718 by: Lincoln Yeoh

qmail email server
        56715 by: Cole, Robert
        56716 by: Matt Simonsen

Plain language on reading the manual
        56719 by: Karl Vogel

Receipts refused
        56720 by: Kari Suomela

tcprules and CIDR notation?
        56721 by: Drew Linsalata
        56722 by: Alex Pennace

ms-tnef attachments
        56723 by: Ng Hak Beng

anybody can't help me insert some text in the end of every message my mailserver relay 
for?
        56724 by: dick
        56732 by: Uwe Ohse

Qmail Logging.
        56726 by: Jagadish.N
        56727 by: Greg White

unable to pick up email
        56730 by: george bernath

Best option for sending a newsletter
        56731 by: Paco Gracia

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Hi,

    I've restarted qmail and there is something wrong:

# qmail-qstat
messages in queue: 15
messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 0

# qmHandle -l
Messages in local queue: 0
Messages in remote queue: 0

# qmail-qread


There is no message in the queue, but why qmail-qstat shows 15?

When there are more messages in queue, qmail-qstat shows more than 15, in
"messages in queue".

Thanks,

Ari







Hi,

this problem

At 18:07 4.2.2001 -0800, Bruce Dang wrote:
>       Then when i try to  connect to port 25, it says UNABLE TO READ
>CONTROLS #4.3.0...how do I fix  this?   Cheers,   Bruce 

is usually attached to the fact, that qmail was not compiled to the
standard patch, ie. /var/qmail and you have the control file in the
/var/qmail/control.

See where the qmail binaries are.

Had the same problem with a qmail port to SuSE Linux.

cheers.
eh.


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On Sun, Feb 04, 2001 at 06:07:15PM -0800, Bruce Dang wrote:
> What is wrong with qmail on FreeBSD 4.2?  I installed it from the ports and it does 
>not work.  When I try to run it..the qmaill/q/r/p/s users don't even run the process, 
>but instead some unknown uid running the qmail-send and other processes.  Then when i 
>try to connect to port 25, it says UNABLE TO READ CONTROLS #4.3.0...how do I fix this?
Quite strange thing. Last time I've installed it from ports (about a month
ago), in was clean as a baby.

Alex.




Thanks everyone for helping out...I think it is going to work now :>...
 
Regards,
 
Bruce




Now, if I had a $1  every time I have heard that one, then i'd be rich
enough to hire someone to set it up for you.

:)

Regards
Nick



----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Dang
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 6:27 PM
Subject: RE: Qmail on FreebSD 4.2-STABLE


Thanks everyone for helping out...I think it is going to work now :>...

Regards,

Bruce





hi, I have a porblem during in client site which using smartpop from ftgate to retreive their pop domain email, eg: when someone has send to many email address of a same domain or cc to many email address of a same domain, then the receipient will receive N times of emails, let say someone sent a email to 10 ppls from a same domain, then each person will receive 10 times of emails...... is there any explanations?
 
thanks
ckh  :)




Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok someone in English please.  Where do i set in environment. ? what file I'm
> lost

This isn't a qmail issue.  Read the documentation for your shell.

Charles
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>There are so many garbage mails in /var/qmail/queue. Is there a good
>and simple way to delete all mails in the queue? Can I use OS
>commands as "mv" or "rm" ?

Sure. See:

  http://www.faqts.com/knowledge_base/view.phtml/aid/6567/fid/286

-Dave




hi,

must qmailadmin, vpopmail and sqwebmail work together?

does qmail works with just qmailadmin, autoresponder,
ezmlm, and sqwebmail installed? and without vpopmail
installed?

how can i make my users login in sqwebmail just by
typing in the username instead of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

rgds,
yee

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You can't use SQwebmail without vpopmail, since
SQWebmail is made for vpopmail :)

-fjw


-----Opprinnelig melding-----
Fra: Yee Siew Chin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sendt: 5. februar 2001 16:02
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: qmailadmin + vpopmail + sqwebmail


hi,

must qmailadmin, vpopmail and sqwebmail work together?

does qmail works with just qmailadmin, autoresponder,
ezmlm, and sqwebmail installed? and without vpopmail
installed?

how can i make my users login in sqwebmail just by
typing in the username instead of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

rgds,
yee

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I'm not sure where you got that idea, sqwebmail is
developed with the Courier mail server and it
happens to support the vpopmail vchkpw authentication
program for those of us using vpopmail, then it just
reads Maildir's.  Did you mean qmailadmin maybe?
That is only used for vpopmail.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Wilson, Frank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 11:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SV: qmailadmin + vpopmail + sqwebmail


You can't use SQwebmail without vpopmail, since
SQWebmail is made for vpopmail :)

-fjw


-----Opprinnelig melding-----
Fra: Yee Siew Chin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sendt: 5. februar 2001 16:02
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: qmailadmin + vpopmail + sqwebmail


hi,

must qmailadmin, vpopmail and sqwebmail work together?

does qmail works with just qmailadmin, autoresponder,
ezmlm, and sqwebmail installed? and without vpopmail
installed?

how can i make my users login in sqwebmail just by
typing in the username instead of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

rgds,
yee

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On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 11:59:06AM -0500, Hubbard, David wrote:
> I'm not sure where you got that idea, sqwebmail is
> developed with the Courier mail server and it
> happens to support the vpopmail vchkpw authentication
> program for those of us using vpopmail, then it just
> reads Maildir's.  Did you mean qmailadmin maybe?
> That is only used for vpopmail.

sqwebmail works nice without the other stuff. I have it running with
qmail-ldap.

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On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 05:50:21PM +0100, Wilson, Frank wrote:
> You can't use SQwebmail without vpopmail

nonsens. you can.

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On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 06:37:41PM +0100, Henning Brauer wrote
> On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 05:50:21PM +0100, Wilson, Frank wrote:
> > You can't use SQwebmail without vpopmail
> 
> nonsens. you can.

with qmail alone, or with vmailmgr ? I'd like to see that (especially
for the vmailmgr part) :)

Olivier
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ok...
must qmailadmin works with vpopmail?

rgds,
yee

--- "Hubbard, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I'm not sure where you got that idea, sqwebmail is
> developed with the Courier mail server and it
> happens to support the vpopmail vchkpw
> authentication
> program for those of us using vpopmail, then it just
> reads Maildir's.  Did you mean qmailadmin maybe?
> That is only used for vpopmail.
> 
> Dave
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wilson, Frank
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 11:50 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: SV: qmailadmin + vpopmail + sqwebmail
> 
> 
> You can't use SQwebmail without vpopmail, since
> SQWebmail is made for vpopmail :)
> 
> -fjw
> 
> 
> -----Opprinnelig melding-----
> Fra: Yee Siew Chin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sendt: 5. februar 2001 16:02
> Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Emne: qmailadmin + vpopmail + sqwebmail
> 
> 
> hi,
> 
> must qmailadmin, vpopmail and sqwebmail work
> together?
> 
> does qmail works with just qmailadmin,
> autoresponder,
> ezmlm, and sqwebmail installed? and without vpopmail
> installed?
> 
> how can i make my users login in sqwebmail just by
> typing in the username instead of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> rgds,
> yee
> 
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HI! I want to filter messages by the IP number. Somebody know how can I
do it?

Thanks
Pablo





On Mon, 05 Feb 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> HI! I want to filter messages by the IP number. Somebody know how
> can I do it?
> 
> Thanks
> Pablo

If you mean deny the messages altogether, give ipchains a go.
-- 
"Microsoft Works."

- Oxymoron




That would only send it to the secondary MX and then it would be 
relayed from there.

On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 02:39:01AM +1100, Brett Randall wrote:
> On Mon, 05 Feb 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > HI! I want to filter messages by the IP number. Somebody know how
> > can I do it?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Pablo
> 
> If you mean deny the messages altogether, give ipchains a go.
> -- 
> "Microsoft Works."
> 
> - Oxymoron

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when I try to run qmail start after installing (the lwq way)

I get a lot of errors:

multilog: fatal: unable to switch to current directory: access denied
....


so I am assuming that a log directory hasnt got the right permissions or
ownership, my /var/log/qmail directory is owned by qmaill, so could it be
something to do with my /var/qmail/supervise directories- who should own
these and what should the permissions be?


thanks

Neil





"Neil Grant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>when I try to run qmail start after installing (the lwq way)
>
>I get a lot of errors:
>
>multilog: fatal: unable to switch to current directory: access denied
>....
>
>
>so I am assuming that a log directory hasnt got the right permissions or
>ownership, my /var/log/qmail directory is owned by qmaill,

That's not sufficient. What is the output from:

  ls -ld / /var /var/log /var/log/qmail /var/log/qmail/smtpd

>so could it be
>something to do with my /var/qmail/supervise directories- who should own
>these and what should the permissions be?

Look at the chown and chmod commands in LWQ.

-Dave




When testing the postmaster alias in step #7 of the testing man page, I do
not know what "use end of file, not dot, to end the message" means. I am
trying to send a message "with a completely bad packet" - I typed:

/var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject -f nonexistant <enter>
To: unknown <enter>
Subject: <testing>
<enter>
blah <enter>

>From here I did a <ctrl - c> to exit because I was not sure how to proceed.
Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
Matt






Matt Simonsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When testing the postmaster alias in step #7 of the testing man page, I do
> not know what "use end of file, not dot, to end the message" means. I am
> trying to send a message "with a completely bad packet" - I typed:
[...] 
> From here I did a <ctrl - c> to exit because I was not sure how to proceed.
> Any help would be appreciated.

Use ^D to send an EOF to the process.

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On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 09:49:58AM +0100, Felix von Leitner wrote:
> 
> Thus spake David Benfell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > do with it except try to unsubscribe, as I have.  But Debian doesn't
> > use a rational mailing list manager.  I try to follow its directions
> > and I still get mail from the lists.  I want this killed.
> 
> Hundreds of people subscribe and unsubscribe on Debian's mailing lists
> each day.  Instead of simply unsubscribing as others, not only do you
> refuse to talk to them, you want to sabotage them, and you have the
> audacity to ask us to tell you how?!

I have made several attempts to unsubscribe from their lists and I've
tried to contact them.  It doesn't work.  I don't know why and it's
not my job to know why.  But I do need to stop this mail.  Not getting
any cooperation from them, I have little choice.
> 
> The nerve!
> 
The nerve of them for using a broken mailing list manager.
Self-righteousness only goes so far.

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On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 08:45:17AM -0800, David Benfell wrote:
[unsubscribing for Debian lists]
> I have made several attempts to unsubscribe from their lists and I've
> tried to contact them.  It doesn't work.

But it can't be user error, right?

> I don't know why and it's not my job to know why.

That's a wonderful attitude.

> But I do need to stop this mail.  Not getting
> any cooperation from them, I have little choice.

RTFM http://www.debian.org/

> > The nerve!
> The nerve of them for using a broken mailing list manager.

Subscription and unsubscription works for everyone else. Subscription
obviously worked for you, but you can't manage unsubscription. Why is
this Debian's problem?

> Self-righteousness only goes so far.

You invited yourself to Debian's party, not the other way around.




On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 03:37:29PM -0500, Alex Pennace wrote:
> Subscription and unsubscription works for everyone else. Subscription
> obviously worked for you, but you can't manage unsubscription. Why is
> this Debian's problem?
> 
> > Self-righteousness only goes so far.
> 
> You invited yourself to Debian's party, not the other way around.

Why is this being discussed here?

--Adam




I have a system in place that has been using vsm.  I am building a newer
system that is going to be running
/Maildir/ the problem is that everything works fine for my users that are
located in /home/user
but the majority of my users are located in /home/thisdir/user
Now this dir structure is synced with another server.  Users are using their
home dir for other things so I don't
want to change the format of the user directorys to /home/user/  Would take
days anyway.
How can I get this to send to and allow recieve from /home/user/Maildir when
nesecary and /home/thisdir/user/Maildir/ when needed?
I hope that makes some sense.

Thank You,
Dale





"Dale Herring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>How can I get this to send to and allow recieve from /home/user/Maildir when
>nesecary and /home/thisdir/user/Maildir/ when needed?
>I hope that makes some sense.

It's automatic. qmail uses $HOME/Maildir, so it'll use whatever home
directory is specified in /etc/passwd for each user.

-Dave




Hi,

On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 12:05:58PM +0100, Clemens Hermann wrote:
> at the moment there is a discussion on the qmail mailing-list about your
> qmail-FreeBSD-port. The list almost completely advises not to use the
> port but to install qmail from the original source. Perhaps it would

        I was not aware of that. I've not been subscribed to the qmail
list for about a year due to the high amount of email in the list.
        Could you fill me in on the consensus? I mean, I want the qmail
port to be as helpful as possible. What are the major complains?
        I am checking the archives and it seems that the installation
problem had nothing to do with the port.
        However, I see there seems to be some issues with the port.
        I would like sugestions on what could be done to
improve it? Please constructive ones. :)
        The port as it stands follows the INSTALL instructions
shipped with the original tarball source almost to the letter.

        Regards,

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"Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>       The port as it stands follows the INSTALL instructions
>shipped with the original tarball source almost to the letter.

The problem is that those instructions are way outdated. That's DJB's
fault, of course. A modern qmail installation uses daemontools and
tcpserver instead of syslog and inetd.

-Dave




---- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Sill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: qmail port


> "Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > The port as it stands follows the INSTALL instructions
> >shipped with the original tarball source almost to the letter.
> 
> The problem is that those instructions are way outdated. That's DJB's
> fault, of course. A modern qmail installation uses daemontools and
> tcpserver instead of syslog and inetd.
> 
> -Dave
> 

When was the last time anybody actually heard from DJB?

Mike





"Mike Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>When was the last time anybody actually heard from DJB?

He seems to be in a DNS mode right now. He's active on the dns list
and actively maintaining djbdns.

-Dave




On Mon, 05 Feb 2001 21:16:46 +0200, "Mike Jackson" wrote:

> When was the last time anybody actually heard from DJB?

The last time he posted to this list was not too long ago actually.

Date: 25 Jan 2001 22:18:11 -0000 (Thu 15:18 MST)
From: "D. J. Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Subtle qmail bug? (was Re: Handling an MX record of 0.0.0.0 or 127.0.0.1)

Andy





Hi. I was having the same problem on my linux system and the -R option
didn't seem to help. What fixed it was adding the -l localhostname argument
which helps qmail resolve the local host name which I think is what's taking
the longest. Actually, when it was happening on my system, it would take
about 2 minutes to send an email, but then it would work fine for 10 minutes
because the hostname resolution was cached. After 10 minutes, it would go
back to the same issue.

-----Original Message-----
From: Uwe Ohse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 11:47 PM
To: Jagadish.N
Cc: cr.yp.to log list; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Delay in POP and SMTP response


On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 12:13:45PM +0530, Jagadish.N wrote:

>I even telneted to 110 and 25 specifing
>the mail server's ip address but it takes quite a long time to respond.

try starting tcpserver with the -R option.

Regards, Uwe





Just curious, how to make a nobody account that all emails sent to that 
address will be automatically redirected to /dev/null ?
I want to make an account to forward emails from doublebounce, so I won't get 
junk mails because a person's mail bounce and the bounce is bounced.

Thanks





Irwan Hadi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just curious, how to make a nobody account that all emails sent to that 
> address will be automatically redirected to /dev/null ?

Just put '#' in the appropriate .qmail file (~alias/.qmail-nobody perhaps).

> I want to make an account to forward emails from doublebounce, so I won't get 
> junk mails because a person's mail bounce and the bounce is bounced.

Doublebounces might contain useful information.  You might not want to 
throw them away without at least glancing at them.

Charles
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Irwan Hadi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Just curious, how to make a nobody account that all emails sent to that 
>address will be automatically redirected to /dev/null ?
>I want to make an account to forward emails from doublebounce, so I won't get 
>junk mails because a person's mail bounce and the bounce is bounced.

echo "#" > ~alias/.qmail-devnull

echo devnull > /var/qmail/control/doublebounceto

-Dave




Since the serialmail list doesn't appear to have a lot of traffic,
I wonder if anyone can point me in the direction of an archive.

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I recently setup Bruce Guenter's Qmail (qmail-1.03+patches-18.src.rpm). For
every email, I am getting a email addressed to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". I
understand what this is for, but I can't seem to find a way to turn it off.
I have deleted .qmail-msglog from /etc/qmail/aliases but am having no luck. 

Is it possible to turn it off? If I can't use this current install and I
have to reinstall Qmail, what is the best way to backup the queues so the
new installation will handle the rest of the deliveries?

Thanks





Brandon Yu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I recently setup Bruce Guenter's Qmail (qmail-1.03+patches-18.src.rpm). For
> every email, I am getting a email addressed to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". I
> understand what this is for, but I can't seem to find a way to turn it off.
> I have deleted .qmail-msglog from /etc/qmail/aliases but am having no luck. 

By default, his source RPM also installs ~alias/.qmail-msglog, which contains
only comments, and so the extra delivery is discarded.

> Is it possible to turn it off? If I can't use this current install and I
> have to reinstall Qmail, what is the best way to backup the queues so the
> new installation will handle the rest of the deliveries?

Why can't you use it as is?  If its the extra load due to queuing the msglog
copies, rebuild the RPM without that option -- you'll have to disable
QUEUE_EXTRA and QUEUE_EXTRALEN in the qmail sources by removing that patch
from the RPM.

Charles
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On Mon, 05 Feb 2001 11:45:23 +0200, Mike Jackson wrote:

>  I tried to use svscan for something other than qmail and couldn't get
> it to work. The process in question, slapd, wasn't producing specific
> log files, and svscan refused to start. It works just fine for me with
> qmail when I specify the log files for qmail.

If you are intending to use multilog with slapd as you do with qmail 
then you will need to make sure that it logs it's output to stdout.  In 
addition, you will need to ensure that slapd doesn't fork/background or 
supervise will not be able to ``manage'' it.  But, I guess this is kind 
of off topic. :-)

Andy






Hi all,

Would this be valid in control/badmailfrom;  @*.cn   ?

If not, is there an equivalent ? I've seen enough spam from those little
guys.

John





On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 03:24:26PM -0500, Jean Caron wrote:
> Would this be valid in control/badmailfrom;  @*.cn   ?

No it isn't.

> If not, is there an equivalent ?

Not with an unmodified qmail version. There exist addons to support
wildcard matching ... www.qmail.org should list some.

> I've seen enough spam from those little

I doubt that woul really help. Most SPAM I see is relayed through
*.cn servers but badmailfrom only goes for envelope senders (which
mostly always have no *.cn addresses).

You may try plugging rblsmtpd in
    http://cr.yp.to/ucspi-tcp/rblsmtpd.html
from the ucspi-tcp package at
    http://cr.yp.to/ucspi-tcp.html
and set RBLSMTPD for *.cn netblocks using tcpservers rules (-x flag).

        \Maex

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Before I even ask this question, let me say that the intent is not to start
a flame war about packaging, or about Linux distros, or anything else for
that matter.

I read an article last week that was a comparison of all of the major Linux
distros. The usual stuff, installation, features, ease of use.  One of the
categories was MTA.  It was said in this comparison that Redhat Linux 7
Deluxe Workstation comes with Sendmail, Qmail, and Postfix.

I know that Redhat 7 comes with Sendmail installed by default.  Postfix is
on the Powertools CD.  I see no mention anywhere though about Qmail.

Has anyone else heard anything about Qmail being packaged with Redhat?  Or
was this just a typo as I suspect?

Thanks.

Aaron





This is news to me. I've got the Red Hat 7 Deluxe Workstation CD's (yes I
paid) and I swear I didn't see qmail on them. If I had a single RPM to
install qmail with, life would have been much easier these past few weeks.

rpm -Uvh qmail-thewholeshebang-1.03-memphis-i386.rpm

Regards,
-ryan

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but bigotry makes the open-source world go round.
----- Original Message -----
From: Aaron Carr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 1:19 PM
Subject: qmail packaging


> Before I even ask this question, let me say that the intent is not to
start
> a flame war about packaging, or about Linux distros, or anything else for
> that matter.
>
> I read an article last week that was a comparison of all of the major
Linux
> distros. The usual stuff, installation, features, ease of use.  One of the
> categories was MTA.  It was said in this comparison that Redhat Linux 7
> Deluxe Workstation comes with Sendmail, Qmail, and Postfix.
>
> I know that Redhat 7 comes with Sendmail installed by default.  Postfix is
> on the Powertools CD.  I see no mention anywhere though about Qmail.
>
> Has anyone else heard anything about Qmail being packaged with Redhat?  Or
> was this just a typo as I suspect?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Aaron





Aaron Carr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I know that Redhat 7 comes with Sendmail installed by default.  Postfix is
> on the Powertools CD.  I see no mention anywhere though about Qmail.

There are no files named '*qmail*' anywhere in the RedHat 7 RPMS directory.
If they're installing it, they're doing it stealthily.

Charles
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On Mon Feb 05, 2001 at 04:19:24PM -0500, Aaron Carr wrote:

> I read an article last week that was a comparison of all of the major Linux
> distros. The usual stuff, installation, features, ease of use.  One of the
> categories was MTA.  It was said in this comparison that Redhat Linux 7
> Deluxe Workstation comes with Sendmail, Qmail, and Postfix.

Would this happen to by Linux Magazine?  Ahh yes, just flipped to it.
Hmmm... they made a number of mistakes on there.  They claimed
Linux-Mandrake came with qmail as well as sendmail and smail, but
failed to mention that the default MTA is postfix.

I don't think it was a typo... I think it was a complete and utter
lack of research on thier part.

I've emailed them in regards to (a few) problems with their summary
for Linux-Mandrake... you may want to do the same (perhaps, one can
hope, they will actually do more than read the back of a box and make
some fictious assumptions the next time they attempt to do one of
these comparisons).

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I have a situation which leaves me (I think) caught between
virtualdomain and smtproute files...

We have qmail running on a firewall box and forwarding
to the corporate exchange server...

We have users from one domain:
aimtv.com which we use smtproutes to forward directly
to a virus scan box...  all the email addresses in the aimtv
domain match those found on the forwarding domain, so
smtproutes is appropriate.

I'd like all our domains to be that way, but each domain that
the virus scan box checks needs extra licensing ($$)...

so, we have another domain,   corp.rocketcash.com...
some email addresses are [EMAIL PROTECTED]

the mail comes in and I use a .qmail file to forward these to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

future new addresses will be along the line of
[EMAIL PROTECTED] which will forward
to the equivalent on corp.netzero.net....

is there a way to catch all those future addresses and forward them to
@corp.netzero.net w/o using smtproutes and without creating a separate
.qmail for each new employee?  would a catchall .qmail
file be able to do that?  i don't see how.  it makes sense to use smtproutes
but i cannot from what i can see.

any suggestions?

Thanks,
--
Michael Boyiazis
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mail Architect, NetZero, Inc.






I asked something _similar_ last week. But it's not exactly the same.

See Chris Johnson's answer to "translating or remapping domains to another
domain", 2001/01/29

My situation was I wanted:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
to go to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

No changes to the username portion.

The answer to my situation (thanks to Chris) : 
        
echo 'corp.rocketcash.com' >> /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts
echo 'corp.rocketcash.com:alias-rocketcash' >>
/var/qmail/control/virtualdomains
echo '| forward "$DEFAULT"@corp.netzero.net' >  \
   /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-rocketcash-default


But my understanding of your situation is:

Outside   - >  firewall  -> MSX with AV -> Internal mailservers
 u@aimtv         ->     u@aimtv   ->          u@aimtv
f@rocketcash     -> fipl@netzero  -> fipl@netzero
And now you also want
fipl@rocketcash  -> fipl@netzero  -> fipl@netzero

Looks possible but may require some modification - depends how you do the
firstname to longname thing.

Cheerio,
Link.

At 02:51 PM 05-02-2001 -0800, you wrote:
>I have a situation which leaves me (I think) caught between
>virtualdomain and smtproute files...
>
>We have qmail running on a firewall box and forwarding
>to the corporate exchange server...
>
>We have users from one domain:
>aimtv.com which we use smtproutes to forward directly
>to a virus scan box...  all the email addresses in the aimtv
>domain match those found on the forwarding domain, so
>smtproutes is appropriate.
>
>I'd like all our domains to be that way, but each domain that
>the virus scan box checks needs extra licensing ($$)...
>
>so, we have another domain,   corp.rocketcash.com...
>some email addresses are [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>the mail comes in and I use a .qmail file to forward these to
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>future new addresses will be along the line of
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] which will forward
>to the equivalent on corp.netzero.net....
>
>is there a way to catch all those future addresses and forward them to
>@corp.netzero.net w/o using smtproutes and without creating a separate
>.qmail for each new employee?  would a catchall .qmail
>file be able to do that?  i don't see how.  it makes sense to use smtproutes
>but i cannot from what i can see.
>
>any suggestions?
>
>Thanks,
>--
>Michael Boyiazis
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Mail Architect, NetZero, Inc.
>
>
>
>





I'm trying to setup Qmail as an email server that My local clients can login to, read and reply to email without downloading it (IMAP?). I setup qmail+tcpserver+daemon tools via the docs I found on www.linuxdoc.org. But even "adding" a user didn't seem to work. I can't authenticate to it.
 
Can someone point me in the right direction on how to set this up. I can't seem to find any concise documentation on setting up an email server like this.
 
One other note is I believe I'm close. Qmail does send out email if I login to the box itself and use the mail command. I can specify any email address/domain I want and qmail does correctly deliver it.
 
I want to be able to connect to the server from a windoze machine with outlook express and read and reply to email.
 
My next step is I do want to get POP3 working on there. Do I use qpop3d?
 
Thanks!
Robert




I found Qmail + Courrier-IMAP howto at www.linuxdoc.com ... I think you need to get the Qmail + patches at http://em.ca/~bruceg/qmail+patches/ .
 
I am having problems getting an RPM from the .src.rpm, though. I do a rpm --rebuild filename and instead of giving me an RPM in the /usr/src/redhat/.../RPMS directory I get code that looks like it needs to be compiled. This is not what I expected to happen and I can't figure out what to do from here. I don't see instructions on how to install it (at least ones that I understand).
 
I want to get IMAP working, too. Let me rephrase that, I NEED to get it working. I have spent literally 30 hours in 4 days just reading the documentation and trying to get things working. At one point I had POP3 up and working fine with Qmail but then found out IMAP was needed and decided to start over. So this is both a post to help you, I think that site contains the crown jewel, but I don't know how to install it! Perhaps someone can help both of us...
 
Matt

 
 -----Original Message-----
From: Cole, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 10:54 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: qmail email server

I'm trying to setup Qmail as an email server that My local clients can login to, read and reply to email without downloading it (IMAP?). I setup qmail+tcpserver+daemon tools via the docs I found on www.linuxdoc.org. But even "adding" a user didn't seem to work. I can't authenticate to it.
 
Can someone point me in the right direction on how to set this up. I can't seem to find any concise documentation on setting up an email server like this.
 
One other note is I believe I'm close. Qmail does send out email if I login to the box itself and use the mail command. I can specify any email address/domain I want and qmail does correctly deliver it.
 
I want to be able to connect to the server from a windoze machine with outlook express and read and reply to email.
 
My next step is I do want to get POP3 working on there. Do I use qpop3d?
 
Thanks!
Robert




It doesn't get much plainer.

http://www.hwnd.net/pub/mskb/Q209354.asp

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I managed to get relaying working fine. The remote clients are able to
send mail, but when their client program (mostly Outlook Express) tries
to send a read receipt, the receipts get rejected.

Any suggestions?


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Hi folks,

I'm working on a qmail install that requires a rather long and very specific
list of IP ranges from which to allow relaying.  Is there a way to build
tcprules entries using CIDR notation?

For example:

206.217.93.0/25:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""

If not, how would you specify this?  Better yet, how would you specify a
much larger CIDR block like:

38.29.0.0/16:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""


Drew Linsalata
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Internet Server and Carrier Neutral Co-Location
http://www.gothambus.com





On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 11:00:05PM -0500, Drew Linsalata wrote:
> I'm working on a qmail install that requires a rather long and very specific
> list of IP ranges from which to allow relaying.  Is there a way to build
> tcprules entries using CIDR notation?
> 
> For example:
> 
> 206.217.93.0/25:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""
> 
> If not, how would you specify this?

man tcprules

ADDRESS RANGES
       tcprules treats 1.2.3.37-53:ins as an abbreviation for the
       rules 1.2.3.37:ins, 1.2.3.38:ins, and  so  on  up  through
       1.2.3.53:ins.   Similarly,  10.2-3.:ins is an abbreviation
       for 10.2.:ins and 10.3.:ins.





Has any encountered this problem?  I've noticed some Microsoft MUA users 
send attachments with the mime-type ms-tnef.  When I receive the file via 
my qmail setup, it is unable to convert the attachment accordingly, and I 
end up with a file in the form like message.dat

I have some tools to convert it, but I'm looking for more of an 'automated' 
solution, meaning for it to be converted as qmail receives it.  It seems to 
be a MS problem, and I don't seem to find a patch or whatever to fix

Any assistance, please?  Thanks in advance.

HB





any suggestion is welcome!
thanks a lot!




On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 01:35:52PM +0800, dick wrote:

> Subject: anybody can't help me insert some text in the end of every message my 
>mailserver relay for?

This is possibly an evil idea, but anyway:
Either patch qmail-queue.c or qmail-smtpd.c (depending on what you want
to achieve). In the later case try adding something like this to the
end of blast():
        { 
                char corrupted[]="This message has been changed on";
                qmail_put(&qqt,corrupted,sizeof(corrupted)-1);
                qmail_put(&qqt,greeting.s,greeting.len);
                qmail_put(&qqt,"\n",1);
        }

Regards, Uwe




Hello Guys,
                 Qmail logs are  dumped onto screen, How can I capture this Logs [ both pop and smtp ] ??
I am planning to use qmail-analog. Please note that i am not Supervising [using svscan] the Mail
system.
 
     
Thanx in Advance.
jagga




On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 11:32:43AM +0530, Jagadish.N wrote:
> Hello Guys,
>                  Qmail logs are  dumped onto screen, How can I capture this Logs [ 
>both pop and smtp ] ??
> I am planning to use qmail-analog. Please note that i am not Supervising [using 
>svscan] the Mail
> system.
SNIP

Firstly, I highly recommend that you follow the procedure outlined in
Life with Qmail, found at http://www.lifewithqmail.org/ -- it really
does represent the best standardized method of setting up qmail for new
users (I assume that you're a new user, or you'd know why your logs are
going to STDOUT instead of some sort of logging mechanism. I'm guessing
here that /var/qmail/rc contains something like:

exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \
qmail-start ./Mailbox

Either follow $QMAIL_SRC/INSTALL.* to the letter, and use syslog and
splogger, or go forth and read LWQ, and save your processor power by
using multilog.....


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revolution inevitable.
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Hi

I have come across a weird problem with qmail. 

When mail is received from one particular source and
we try and pick it up with Outlook 2000 it hangs -
displaying for example, "receiving message 1 of 10".

Investigation reveals that /Maildir/new is empty and 
Maildir/cur has all 10 messages, the first message
(the one that caused Outlook 2000 to hang) has a
format "date.pid.host.filename:2,S" (the suffix :2,S
not on any other mail).

Checking mail again with Outlook 2000 still hangs
thus no mail is able to be picked up.

When the first message (with the :2,S suffix)is
manually moved to /Maildir/tmp all remaining messages
in /Maildir/cur are successfully picked up by Outlook
2000.

I would be grateful if anyone can suggest what is
going on and hopefully provide a solution?

Thanks very much!

George

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Hello everyone,
 
    I have to send a daily newsletter to 60.000 e-mail addresses that are stored in a MySQL database. The newsletter is the same for everybody and the process of composing and sending it will be started from a PHP web app.
 
    I have several doubts:
 
    1- Should I use mail() function from PHP, invoke qmail directly or create a mailing list with ezmlm?
    2- If I don't log the sending of the newsletter will it increase the speed or just free CPU?
    3- What side effects have to set concurrencyremote to high values like 300?
    4- Is it necessary to use a higher value in tcpserver's -c option if I use mail() function?
    5- Could I set up a second qmail instalation for just sending the newsletter so it doesn't slow the "normal users" mail?
 
Thanks in advance,
Paco


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