qmail Digest 13 Feb 2001 11:00:01 -0000 Issue 1274

Topics (messages 57029 through 57110):

qmail-scanner + qmail-rewrite
        57029 by: Michel Boucey

Problem with qmail+vpopmail and suggested fix
        57030 by: Alex Povolotsky
        57051 by: Alex Pennace
        57058 by: Alex Povolotsky

Qmail not processing queue.
        57031 by: Joe
        57074 by: Dave Sill

Re: Selective relaying with xinetd
        57032 by: Charles Cazabon

Re: POP Users w/o System Accounts
        57033 by: Alex Le Fevre
        57035 by: Charles Cazabon
        57037 by: Alex Le Fevre
        57039 by: Charles Cazabon
        57061 by: Alex Le Fevre
        57064 by: Charles Cazabon
        57068 by: Alex Le Fevre
        57070 by: Dave Sill
        57076 by: Alex Le Fevre

Please help me out....
        57034 by: Rick
        57036 by: Charles Cazabon

Dailly log files
        57038 by: Ari Arantes Filho

HTML Emails Garbled when sent with qmail+ezmlm
        57040 by: Jeremy Suo-Anttila
        57047 by: Andrew Bold

Syslog? [was Re: Detail logging of POP3D]
        57041 by: Bill Carlson
        57044 by: Greg White
        57046 by: Adam McKenna
        57050 by: Paul Farber
        57056 by: Mark Delany
        57060 by: Bill Carlson
        57087 by: richard.illuin.org
        57096 by: richard.illuin.org

SMTP Server does not support the "RETURN RECEIPT"
        57042 by: Paul Penda
        57052 by: Charles Cazabon

Re: WARNING
        57043 by: Dan Egli

Qmail-Scanner
        57045 by: Dan Egli
        57048 by: Olivier M.

smtplf
        57049 by: Ari Arantes Filho
        57053 by: Jamin A. Brown
        57055 by: vinces.xs4all.nl

rpms
        57054 by: Mate Wierdl

tcpserver error
        57057 by: Peter Brezny
        57075 by: Dave Sill

relaying problem, please help
        57059 by: Peter Brezny
        57063 by: Alexander Jernejcic

rbl
        57062 by: Kurth Bemis

Re: WARNING (Reply )
        57065 by: Rembrandt Lensink

VBS.SST@mm  ~  Shit...
        57066 by: Jesse Sunday

550 User Unknown
        57067 by: Herbie
        57069 by: Peter van Dijk
        57072 by: Charles Cazabon
        57089 by: Scott Gifford
        57108 by: Rod... Whitworth

adding new users; pop3 email
        57071 by: SF
        57082 by: SF

Re: client is blocking my mail server...
        57073 by: Dave Sill

SMTP-AUTH with /etc/shadow
        57077 by: Herbie

Anna Kournikova  ~  VBS.SST@MM  ~  Please Help...
        57078 by: Jesse Sunday
        57079 by: Charles Cazabon
        57080 by: Matthew Patterson
        57081 by: Peter van Dijk
        57083 by: Jerry Lynde
        57084 by: Tim Hunter

Re: Could someone just tell me the reason for this message
        57085 by: Keary Suska

qmail-ldap and courier-imap & authentication ?
        57086 by: dennis

Suggestions please
        57088 by: dennis
        57090 by: Charles Cazabon
        57093 by: dennis

Client email won't download
        57091 by: Virginia Chism
        57092 by: Alex Pennace
        57094 by: Virginia Chism
        57097 by: Virginia Chism
        57099 by: Kurth Bemis

unable to establish an SMTP connection
        57095 by: Tom Hoover

vpopmail
        57098 by: alex

ucspi-tcp man pages?
        57100 by: Peter Cavender
        57101 by: cfm.maine.com
        57109 by: Gerrit Pape

Compile error Courier-imap
        57102 by: The Afif
        57103 by: keng heng

Migrating from EIMS, and the percent hack
        57104 by: Jesse Reynolds

qmail-scanner question
        57105 by: Tore Micaelsen
        57107 by: Milen Petrinski

How to get them out of Maildr?
        57106 by: INSOMNIA - Janusz Oles
        57110 by: Ari Arantes Filho

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Hi !

I've installed qmail-scanner, and I want it now to forward email to
qmail-rewrite. How I've to set correctly QMAILQUEUE variable to do this.

Thanks ... 

Cordialement,

Michel Boucey   Administrateur Système
> Société Norm@net +33 2 31 27 13 45 <






Hello!

Imagine the following situation: there are 2 qmail+vpopmail servers; say,
mail1 and mail2. user@mail1 have a mailbox and also copies all his mail to
user@mail2, via some forwarding script. Eventually, user@mail2 goes over
quota; the  next message forwarded from user@mail1 gets bounced. Imagine
that user@mail1 is over quota too; than, the bounce will bounce AFTER SOME
TIME, WITH BRAND NEW MESSAGE. Not recognising that bounce as a bounce, mail2
will bounce that bounce again. 

And two servers will pingpong, generating huge amount of traffic (actually,
this amount is channel-bounded).

The suggested fix is to create a new control file for qmail, badtcptto,
consisting of pairs of values:

user@mail1    "User is over quota"

and so on.

So some messages will bounce early, reducing load and preventing bounce
generation.

Or there is some other solution?

Alex.
 




On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 02:54:07PM +0300, Alex Povolotsky wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> Imagine the following situation: there are 2 qmail+vpopmail servers; say,
> mail1 and mail2. user@mail1 have a mailbox and also copies all his mail to
> user@mail2, via some forwarding script. Eventually, user@mail2 goes over
> quota; the  next message forwarded from user@mail1 gets bounced. Imagine
> that user@mail1 is over quota too; than, the bounce will bounce AFTER SOME
> TIME, WITH BRAND NEW MESSAGE. Not recognising that bounce as a bounce, mail2
> will bounce that bounce again. 
> 
> And two servers will pingpong, generating huge amount of traffic (actually,
> this amount is channel-bounded).

That won't happen; user@mail1, if he forwards bounces (which he
shouldn't) will forward the bounce to user@mail2. When that user is
over quota, qmail generates a double bounce that goes directly to the
postmaster.




On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 12:26:09PM -0500, Alex Pennace wrote:
> > user@mail2, via some forwarding script. Eventually, user@mail2 goes over
> > quota; the  next message forwarded from user@mail1 gets bounced. Imagine
> > that user@mail1 is over quota too; than, the bounce will bounce AFTER SOME
> > TIME, WITH BRAND NEW MESSAGE. Not recognising that bounce as a bounce, mail2
> > will bounce that bounce again. 
> > 
> > And two servers will pingpong, generating huge amount of traffic (actually,
> > this amount is channel-bounded).
> That won't happen; user@mail1, if he forwards bounces (which he
> shouldn't) will forward the bounce to user@mail2. When that user is
> over quota, qmail generates a double bounce that goes directly to the
This DO happens. I can try to investigate; mail2 may use some different MTA
and be beyond my control; but this deadly pingpong happens for the second
time in two weeks :-(((

Alex.




I have a qmail installation on Redhat 6.2. I am using takeshi's MySQL+Qmail patches to allow authent. from MySql. However, my queue is not being processed untill i reboot the server. Seems like qmail-send is dying on me somehow. Logs show mail from local server and remote servers are getting to the queue. Does anyone have a fix for this? I'm kind of new to qmail...
 
JOe




"Joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I have a qmail installation on Redhat 6.2. I am using takeshi's
>MySQL+Qmail patches to allow authent. from MySql. However, my queue
>is not being processed untill i reboot the server. Seems like
>qmail-send is dying on me somehow.

What Do The Logs Say? (tm) What happens if you manually restart it?

>Logs show mail from local server
>and remote servers are getting to the queue. Does anyone have a fix
>for this? I'm kind of new to qmail... 

If you run qmail under supervise, it'll be restarted automatically if
it dies. Of course, it shouldn't be dying in the first place...

-Dave




Kari Suomela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>  CC> Switch to tcpserver.
> 
> I have looked at it and it seems overkill for a small server. As I also 
> have pretty well everything else working ok under xinetd, I'd like to 
> solve this last issue.

It's not overkill.  tcpserver is particularly well suited to small servers;
it's less resource intensive than any of the alternatives.

To allow SMTP-after-POP3, you'll have to selectively set the RELAYCLIENT
environment variable only for a continuously changing set of IP addresses.
I don't think xientd lets you do that (I could be wrong), so I don't think
it's going to work.

Charles
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> As a side note, the MX for threeacesolutions.com
> seems to be
> inbound.threeacesolutions.com.criticalpath.net --
> that's correct, is it?
> Just an odd hostname.

That's definitely the wrong MX name -- it should be
www.schnarff.com. It's probably just that my DNS
provider hasn't updated it yet (which is potentially
another issue here).

> Indeed.  As the next thing, how about the output of
> the following commands:
>     `ls -ld / /var /var/qmail /var/qmail/alias
> /var/qmail/alias/.qmail*`

bash-2.04# 'ls -ld / /var /var/qmail /var/qmail/alias
/var/qmail/alias/.qmail*'
ls: /var/qmail/alias/.qmail*: No such file or
directory
drwxr-xr-x  17 root   wheel  512 Feb  6 14:10 /
drwxr-xr-x  25 root   wheel  512 Jan 16 12:49 /var
drwxr-xr-x  10 root   qmail  512 Feb 10 14:38
/var/qmail
drwxr-sr-x   3 alias  qmail  512 Feb 11 13:34
/var/qmail/alias

The reason that I have no .qmail in /var/qmail/alias
is because when I put my .qmail-postmaster file there,
it had no effect on [EMAIL PROTECTED] messages;
it took a .qmail-postmaster file in /home/alias to
make messages work correctly. Thus, I would assume
Qmail is looking not in /var/qmail/alias but in
/home/alias.
>     `cat
> /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-threeacesolutions-info`

Thus, here is alternate output on this request:

bash-2.04# 'cat
/home/alias/.qmail-threeacesolutions-info'
&[EMAIL PROTECTED]

>     `ls -ld ~alias`
Our output here seems to back up my thought process:

bash-2.04# ls -ld ~alias
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Feb 11 13:40
/home/alias

> On the contrary; I get the satisfaction of seeing
> someone actually putting
> the effort into running qmail, and being polite
> about it at the same time.

Glad to hear I'm not just leeching off of your brains.

Alex Le Fevre

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Alex Le Fevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> The reason that I have no .qmail in /var/qmail/alias is because when I put my
> .qmail-postmaster file there, it had no effect on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> messages; it took a .qmail-postmaster file in /home/alias to make messages
> work correctly. Thus, I would assume Qmail is looking not in /var/qmail/alias
> but in /home/alias.

That's the case, alright.  It's because alias's home directory isn't where
I thought it would be.

How about the output of `ls -ld / /home /home/alias /home/alias/.qmail*` ?
My thinking at this point is this has to be an ownership/permissions issue.

Charles
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> How about the output of `ls -ld / /home /home/alias
> /home/alias/.qmail*` ?
> My thinking at this point is this has to be an
> ownership/permissions issue.
> 
bash-2.04# ls -ld / /home /home/alias
/home/alias/.qmail*
drwxr-xr-x  17 root  wheel  512 Feb  6 14:10 /
drwxr-xr-x  26 root  wheel  512 Feb 10 09:29 /home
drwxr-xr-x   2 root  wheel  512 Feb 11 13:40
/home/alias
-rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel   19 Feb 11 13:38
/home/alias/.qmail-info-threeacesol
utions
-rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel   19 Feb 11 13:35
/home/alias/.qmail-mailer-daemon
-rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel   19 Feb 11 13:32
/home/alias/.qmail-postmaster
-rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel   19 Feb 11 13:35
/home/alias/.qmail-root
-rw-r--r--   1 root  qmail   19 Feb 10 18:24
/home/alias/.qmail-threeacesolutions-info

Looks like I should probably chown popuser:popuser
.qmail-threeacesolutions-info, right?

Alex

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Alex Le Fevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > My thinking at this point is this has to be an
> > ownership/permissions issue.

> bash-2.04# ls -ld / /home /home/alias /home/alias/.qmail*
> drwxr-xr-x  17 root  wheel  512 Feb  6 14:10 /
> drwxr-xr-x  26 root  wheel  512 Feb 10 09:29 /home
> drwxr-xr-x   2 root  wheel  512 Feb 11 13:40 /home/alias
> -rw-r--r--   1 root  qmail   19 Feb 10 18:24
>   /home/alias/.qmail-threeacesolutions-info

There's the problem. alias doesn't own his home directory; therefore
qmail consider that user to exist.  `chown alias:users /home/alias` should
fix it.

> Looks like I should probably chown popuser:popuser
> .qmail-threeacesolutions-info, right?

No, chown it to alias.  In fact, make that `chown -R alias:users /home/alias`
to make it right.  You can change the group to whatever your proper default
is under your OS.

Charles
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> No, chown it to alias.  In fact, make that `chown -R
> alias:users /home/alias`
> to make it right.  You can change the group to
> whatever your proper default
> is under your OS.

Ummm...would that be wheel? I'm running OBSD 2.8.

Sadly enough, after doing `chown -R alias:users
/home/alias`, I still can't get mail at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (thankfully,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] still works). Is that just
because I've got the wrong group set up?

Alex

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Alex Le Fevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > No, chown it to alias.  In fact, make that `chown -R alias:users
> > /home/alias` to make it right.  You can change the group to whatever your
> > proper default is under your OS.
 
> Ummm...would that be wheel? I'm running OBSD 2.8.

I don't think so.  wheel is a privileged group, isn't it?  You want something
with no elevated privileges.

> Sadly enough, after doing `chown -R alias:users /home/alias`, I still can't
> get mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (thankfully, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> still works). Is that just because I've got the wrong group set up?

Maybe, but I doubt it.  Are the qmail log messages explaining the failure
the same as before?  And of course you HUP'ed qmail-send...

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 I don't think so.  wheel is a privileged group,
> isn't it?  You want something
> with no elevated privileges.

OK then, say, popuser?

> Maybe, but I doubt it.  Are the qmail log messages
> explaining the failure
> the same as before?  And of course you HUP'ed
> qmail-send...

The log messages don't say a damn thing. I think,
however, that this is an issue with my DNS provider
(www.namesecure.com); I've had a nearly identical
issue before. I'm going to call them and see if my MX
records are right (like they said a week ago they
would be), and if not, bitch them out like crazy.

Alex

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Alex Le Fevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Sadly enough, after doing `chown -R alias:users
>/home/alias`, I still can't get mail at
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (thankfully,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] still works). Is that just
>because I've got the wrong group set up?

What does:

  grep alias /etc/passwd

show?

-Dave




> What does:
> 
>   grep alias /etc/passwd
> 
> show?

alias:*:1009:10::/home/alias:/bin/csh

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Ok, first I'd like to say I pretty much know jack about Qmail.... But wait, I am not hopeless!
 
I installed Qmail on a 650Mhz PIII , 9GB SCSI, 128 RAM, running Linux 6.2, the server is located at dialtoneinternet.com
I followed the instuctions, and installed qmail in the standard /var/qmail directory... This partition is only 1gig, I guess
the stock Linux setup...
 
My problem is I sent out over 48,000 individual emails to my optin list (no spam, spam is bad!) and it took about 6 hours
to finish up... The emails where no more than 3KB in length each.  The server is pretty much dedicated to just sending
out emails, there are no other users on this machine, and the only web traffic is very very light duty....
 
I've looked throught the Qmail.org site but its all greek to me... no real good information for me there.... Can some one
please tell me what do.... I am adding 2000+ optins a day, and in another month I will more than double me current
subscriber base.... I know Qmail can do what I need it to do, I just need to know how to do it :)
 
Thank you,
-Rick
 




Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> My problem is I sent out over 48,000 individual emails to my optin list (no
> spam, spam is bad!) and it took about 6 hours to finish up... The emails
> where no more than 3KB in length each.  The server is pretty much dedicated
> to just sending out emails, there are no other users on this machine, and the
> only web traffic is very very light duty....

Did you disable qmail while injecting all those messages into the queue?
That seems to speed it up for a lot of people.

Are you using big-todo?  48000 messages pumping into the queue in short
order would seem to indicate this would be a good idea.

Are you logging with multilog?  Logging through splogger/syslog can choke
a busy qmail server, reducing the mail throughput by an order of magnitude.

Are logs and the mail queue on separate physical disks?  That can seriously
help qmail's performance if the server is extremely busy.

> I've looked throught the Qmail.org site but its all greek to me... no real
> good information for me there....

On the contrary, excellent information is there.  There's a whole section on
large servers.  Re-read it all, and follow all its links.  Repeat until you
are enlightened.

> Can some one please tell me what do.... I am adding 2000+ optins a day, and
> in another month I will more than double me current subscriber base.... I
> know Qmail can do what I need it to do, I just need to know how to do it :)

If you want to become a qmail expert in under a month, you have your work
cut out for you.  Consider the possibility of hiring a qmail consultant to
configure and tune your setup, and teach you the basics.  Commercial qmail
consultants are listed at www.qmail.org as well.

Charles
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Hi,
 
    I'm using multilog and tcpserver, like lwq. Is there a way to patch multilog to create dailly log files. I mean in /var/qmail/log/send/ should be:
 
20010201.log
20010202.log
...
 
Thanks,
 
Ari
 




I have been having a problem with HTML based emails getting garlbled when i send them out via qmail+ezmlm-idx most of the messages go out fine and have 0 problems while some will go out to random users on my list and they will be completely garlbled and most likely unreadable to the end user. I have attached the copies of the HTML I used.

Tthe first link is the version that turned out fine with no problems when sent and the second is the exact same code as the first but was forwarded to me by a client who recieved it all garbled.
 
 
 
 
I am composing this message in Dreamweaver 4.0 and then Sending it out with Netscape 6.0 i have also been telling it not to embed the images into the emails and to pull them of remote www servers instead.
 
This problem does not happen everytime i send out a mail and it also does not affect the same users everytime. I can send a user who received the email all garbled directly from my client and it will come through with out a hitch. and i have all tried setting up a test list on the same server with some of the users who recieved it garbled and i sent out the same email and it came through ok.
 
I am really stumped here and i would appreciate any input. There was one small problem i having with the NIC on the server itself but i do not think it is the cause of the problem. When ever i send out the mail via ezmlm i get this error sometimes in my log files and dmesg  
 
Jan 31 19:02:23 ns1 /kernel: file: table is full
Jan 31 19:02:23 ns1 last message repeated 112 times
Jan 31 19:02:28 ns1 /kernel: dc0: watchdog timeout
Jan 31 19:02:37 ns1 /kernel: dc0: watchdog timeout
Jan 31 19:02:38 ns1 /kernel: dc0: no memory for tx list
Jan 31 19:02:38 ns1 /kernel: dc0: no memory for tx list
Jan 31 19:13:21 ns1 syslogd: exiting on signal 15
 
I am replacing the server right now and i am transfering it to a more power full machine with a better nic ( no more dc0 )
 
 
thanks
 
 
Jeremy Suo-Anttila
 




On Monday 12 February 2001  4:05 pm, Jeremy Suo-Anttila wrote:

> > I have been having a problem with HTML based emails getting garlbled when 
i
> send them out via qmail+ezmlm-idx 

Neither qmail nor ezmlm will be touching the content of your message.  The 
problem is more likely to be with the end user's mail client.

However, looking at some of the error messages you quoted, you really need to 
get moved across to the new server.  There is a *very small* possibility that 
system problems are messing with the mail files in memory as they are being 
processed.

The main problem, though, is that you are sending HTML mail.  E-mail is a 
medium used for transmitting textual information, and you are using it as a 
layout medium.  E-mail isn't print.  If you want to send out a formatted 
newsletter, hire a print bureaux...

Why don't you consider sending the mail as a plain text summary, with a link 
to the web page detailed within it?  Most modern GUI based web clients will 
grep http references out of a text based mail and convert them to a clickable 
link to make it easy for the end users...  (I'm guessing that the majority 
use Outlook/Outlook Express, and they need all the help they can get ;^)  I 
think this may be a better long term solution.

Just my 0.02.

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On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Peter van Dijk wrote:

>
> Syslog is unreliable.
>

We've heard this again and again. Any specifics?

Is it an implementation problem or just the way syslog works, period?

I for one am not liking having my logs spread all over machines and in
multiple directories to boot. Makes things like a log host and log
checking very tedious to setup.

http://cr.yp.to/qmail/faq/admin.html#multilog complains that syslog drops
entries under high load, but no specifics.

So, what are the real complaints about syslog? Or are they ancient
history and legend?

Flames welcome, it's cold in Iowa today.


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On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 10:15:24AM -0600, Bill Carlson wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Peter van Dijk wrote:
> 
> >
> > Syslog is unreliable.
> >
> 
> We've heard this again and again. Any specifics?

I've seen syslog dropping entries on a centralized logging host that we
use for remote boxen, about forty of them, under what I would have
considered medium load, but apparently syslog considers high. It's also
the only process on the box I've ever had go runaway on me, and hog all
processor time until stopped/restarted... See below.
> 
> Is it an implementation problem or just the way syslog works, period?

IMHO it's a design decision. It has no guaranteed delivery method, due
to the use of UDP and no internal delivery control.
> 
> I for one am not liking having my logs spread all over machines and in
> multiple directories to boot. Makes things like a log host and log
> checking very tedious to setup.

Centralized logging hosts have their uses, but I prefer in general to
have the logs per-box. Log checking could be a tiny process on the
individual boxes -- it would probably take less CPU overhead than using
syslog in the first place.
> 
> http://cr.yp.to/qmail/faq/admin.html#multilog complains that syslog drops
> entries under high load, but no specifics.
> 
> So, what are the real complaints about syslog? Or are they ancient
> history and legend?
My largest complaint, oft heard on this list and others, is CPU
overhead. On a mail hub, before switching to multilog, the process with
the most CPU time was usually syslog. This is obviously unacceptable.


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On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 10:15:24AM -0600, Bill Carlson wrote:
> >
> > Syslog is unreliable.
> >
> 
> We've heard this again and again. Any specifics?

I've seen the syslog daemon simply die.  With no explanation.  Several times
on different boxes.  I think this qualifies as being unreliable.

--Adam




djb has several logging options... lately I believe it is multilog(?) in
the new daemontools package.



Paul Farber
Farber Technology
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Fax 570-628-5545

On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, Adam McKenna wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 10:15:24AM -0600, Bill Carlson wrote:
> > >
> > > Syslog is unreliable.
> > >
> > 
> > We've heard this again and again. Any specifics?
> 
> I've seen the syslog daemon simply die.  With no explanation.  Several times
> on different boxes.  I think this qualifies as being unreliable.
> 
> --Adam
> 





On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 12:17:47PM -0500, Paul Farber wrote:
> djb has several logging options... lately I believe it is multilog(?) in
> the new daemontools package.

Indeed. And it's pretty triv to use too. The simplest is to replace
your 'splogger qmai' with something like:

multilog t n10 s5000000 /var/log/qmail

Make sure you have a /var/log/qmail directory and that's about it.

Of course if you want to go the whole hog and use svscan/supervise,
then it's a little different as you create a log/run script etc, but
the above is the simple way.

> > > We've heard this again and again. Any specifics?
> > 
> > I've seen the syslog daemon simply die.  With no explanation.  Several times
> > on different boxes.  I think this qualifies as being unreliable.

Indeed syslogd notoriously dies on Solaris 2.5 and 2.6 especially when
hit with multiple HUPqs at around the same time (which of course
happens quite a lot if you use multiple log rolling scripts as one is
almost forced to do on Solaris with that /usr/lib/newsyslog
abomination).


Regards.




On 12 Feb 2001, Mark Delany wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 12:17:47PM -0500, Paul Farber wrote:

> > > > We've heard this again and again. Any specifics?
> > >
> > > I've seen the syslog daemon simply die.  With no explanation.  Several times
> > > on different boxes.  I think this qualifies as being unreliable.
>
> Indeed syslogd notoriously dies on Solaris 2.5 and 2.6 especially when
> hit with multiple HUPqs at around the same time (which of course
> happens quite a lot if you use multiple log rolling scripts as one is
> almost forced to do on Solaris with that /usr/lib/newsyslog
> abomination).
>

Ok, finally a mention of WHICH syslog. Is that most people's experience, a
problem with syslog on Solaris 2.x? I've run mostly Linux boxen over the
years and have had little trouble with sysklogd, the daemon included with
Redhat installations. But then, I tend to use a log host that is on an
isolated, private LAN; UDP doesn't really bother me.

I guess I'll include looking at syslog as part of my performance research
when that time comes.

Later,

Bill Carlson
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On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, Bill Carlson wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Peter van Dijk wrote:
> > Syslog is unreliable.
> We've heard this again and again. Any specifics?

over the network the transport is UDP, and these are not acknowldged so if
they are kost who knows?

the same really applies to messages logged locally: if syslogd isn't
running what happens to the messages? (They disappear into the aether) if
it is running then things slow down whilst te data is properly written.

> Is it an implementation problem or just the way syslog works, period?
the protocol.

> I for one am not liking having my logs spread all over machines and in
> multiple directories to boot. Makes things like a log host and log
> checking very tedious to setup.
threr is nothig stopping you from setting up multilog to log into
subdirectories on the machine in one location (here they all end up in
/var/log/service-name/files)

> http://cr.yp.to/qmail/faq/admin.html#multilog complains that syslog
> drops entries under high load, but no specifics.
unless there are vendor extensions each message gets flushed to the disk,
which pauses the syslogd process whilst both metadata and real data are
synced to disk... it's really horrible on system performance, sapping upto
90% of the system resources...

okay, so multlog doesn't make the same guaranteed write-to disk
performance that syslogd does but something just are not that critical.

RjL
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On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, Bill Carlson wrote:

> Ok, finally a mention of WHICH syslog. Is that most people's
> experience, a problem with syslog on Solaris 2.x? I've run mostly
> Linux boxen over the years and have had little trouble with sysklogd,
> the daemon included with Redhat installations. But then, I tend to use
> a log host that is on an isolated, private LAN; UDP doesn't really
> bother me.

the version which ships with solaris (and SUNos) doesn't have the ability
to disable sync-to-disk on every log write (that i could find). I also
looked into ssylogd and nsyslogd: although they ran fine for UDP-logging
they didn't work properly for system logging and I didn't have a spare
solaris box to run one on really long term for serious debugging.

The LINUX syslogd has the same problems that the solaris one has with
respect to performance when writing to the logfiles (namely the fsync()
after every write) but this can be disabled by putting a '-' in front of
the filename like this:

mail.*                                                  -/var/log/maillog

RjL
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Hi,

My mail client is Nescape and Qmail-1.03 is running in my SMTP Server.
Here the Message error i got when i set up my mail client (Netsacape) to
have a RETURN RECEIPT  when sendind e-mail ::

<<SMTP Server does not support the "RETRURN RECEIPT" >>.

How to  resolve this problem ?

Paul




Paul Penda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> My mail client is Nescape and Qmail-1.03 is running in my SMTP Server.
> Here the Message error i got when i set up my mail client (Netsacape) to
> have a RETURN RECEIPT  when sendind e-mail ::
> 
> <<SMTP Server does not support the "RETRURN RECEIPT" >>.
> 
> How to  resolve this problem ?

Stop expecting MTAs to implement features which are more appropriate for MUAs.
qmail support NRUDT (Notice-Requested-Upon-Delivery-To) with the optional
qreceipt package, but you're better off using an MUA-to-MUA receipt mechanism
(they exist, I don't use them and so can't recall their names) which doesn't
rely on every MTA in the middle supporting it.

Besides, email is an inherently unreliable protocol.  If you really want to
verify that someone gets your information, pick up the phone.

Charles
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Dude,
 
The person sending the virus likely has no idea he (or she) is sending it. The virus infects your winsock32.dll file, so anyone who sends mail using a win32 client (like me for example) is vulnerable. The virus is sent automatically. They don't see it. Chill out, and warn people you are getting it and ask them to scan their systems for the virus. The latest versions of Mcafee and/or Norton Anti-Virus will find and kill the virus.
-- Dan
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 3:37 PM
Subject: WARNING

Stop sending us your hahaha Snowhite and the 7 Dwarfs E-mail virus or we will chase you and attack your system!!!




Ok. 2 Questions. I've seen a lot of people mention Qmail-scanner, so

1) What is Qmail-scanner?
2) How does one enable it (I'm assuming it's some kind of virus scan system)

Thanks!
-- Dan





On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 09:44:13AM -0700, Dan Egli wrote:
> Ok. 2 Questions. I've seen a lot of people mention Qmail-scanner, so
> 1) What is Qmail-scanner?

a great interface to use antiviruses with qmail. 
http://qmail-scanner.sourceforge.net

> 2) How does one enable it (I'm assuming it's some kind of virus scan system)
rtfm :)  (it's very well explained).

good luck,
Olivier
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Hi,

    I'm using a qmail box (redhat 6.2) to send messages from a dedicaded
server running cold fusion (windows NT), but some messages are refused
because of: http://cr.yp.to/docs/smtplf.html. This messages are <FORM>
filled (TEXTAREA) and something are refused.

    How can I patch qmail to avoid this error, I want these message to be
sent.

Thanks,

Ari






Ari,

1.) You *shouldn't* have to patch Qmail for this behavior. Qmail is
following the RFCs and denying your mail because it has bare linefeeds.

2.) If you must "fix" Qmail, use the fixcrio program. This program comes
as part of the ucspi-tcp-0.88 package.

Jamin

On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, Ari Arantes Filho wrote:

> Hi,
>
>     I'm using a qmail box (redhat 6.2) to send messages from a dedicaded
> server running cold fusion (windows NT), but some messages are refused
> because of: http://cr.yp.to/docs/smtplf.html. This messages are <FORM>
> filled (TEXTAREA) and something are refused.
>
>     How can I patch qmail to avoid this error, I want these message to be
> sent.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ari
>
>


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Ari Arantes Filho writes:

> Hi, 
> 
>     I'm using a qmail box (redhat 6.2) to send messages from a dedicaded
> server running cold fusion (windows NT), but some messages are refused
> because of: http://cr.yp.to/docs/smtplf.html. This messages are <FORM>
> filled (TEXTAREA) and something are refused. 
> 
>     How can I patch qmail to avoid this error, I want these message to be
> sent.

This is a frequently asked question. From <URL:http://www.qmail.org>: 

Daniel J. Bernstein suggests that if you have buggy clients that send bare
LFs, and you want to treat their messages the same way sendmail does, you
can simply run his fixcrio program instead of qmail-smtpd for your outgoing
mail relay. fixcrio then takes qmail-smtpd as argument. fixcrio is part of
the ucspi-tcp package. 

Vince.




I made some new djbdns and qmail related rpms; they are in 

ftp://moni.msci.memphis.edu/pub/run/

  The main change is that you can now easily change the installation
prefix by changing the (second) line

%global myhome /usr/local

in the spec file.  Of course, the binary and noarch rpms are compiled
with the above line.  It seems many people (including in our
department) have /usr/local mounted to the mail or DNS server via
nfs. 

In the runlevelconf and dt-run packages, I made a portability change
so that bash2 has no problems with the function names (thx to Peter
Norton for pointing this out to me).

Mate
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I know logging is working for the smtp end of things, because when there was
a conflict, that's where the message showed up, but when i send a message
from a client with a virtual mailbox to an external user, no entries appear
in the /var/log/smtp/current logfile.  something does appear in the
/var/log/mail/send/current file.  So what is qmail-smtp being used for?

i also don't really understand how multilog knows to pull information for
smtp as opposed to send since the run scripts are practically identical,
just in different locations (/var/qmail/supervise/(smtp or send)/log/run,
and point to different directories to store the log.  I'm guessing either
multilog or supervise knows that since it's in the ../smtp or ../send
directory to gather information from the process started in there?

my scripts for the log start up are identical except for the destination
directory of the log files.

#!/bin/sh
PATH=/var/qmail/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin
export PATH
exec setuidgid qmaill multilog t s1000000 n20 /var/log/mail/smtp 2>&1

Thanks again for all your help.


Peter Brezny
SysAdmin Services Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: kbo [mailto:kbo]On Behalf Of Ken Jones
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 10:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: tcpserver error


Peter Brezny wrote:
>
> I've got some problems with tcpserver.  Here's the error i get.
>
> I'm using qmail 1.03/vpopmail/sqwebmail
>
> 400000003a83497834e2bc04 tcpserver: fatal: unable to bind: address already
> used
>
> my /var/qmail/supervise/smtp script is below.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Peter Brezny
> SysAdmin Services Inc.
>
> #!/bin/sh
> # config for tcpserver to enable roaming users
> PATH=/var/qmail/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin
> export PATH
> exec softlimit -m 2000000 tcpserver -H -R -x
/home/vpopmail/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb
> \
> -c20 -u81 -g81 0 smtp rblsmtpd qmail-smtpd 2>&1
>
> virtual2# grep 81 /etc/passwd
> alias:*:81:81:User &:/var/qmail/alias:/nonexistent
> qmaill:*:83:81:User &:/var/qmail:/nonexistent
> qmaild:*:82:81:User &:/var/qmail:/nonexistent
> qmailp:*:84:81:User &:/var/qmail:/nonexistent

Yes. It means there is already a process on your machine
that is listening to the smtp port, port 25. This could
be sendmail still running, or inetd or you already have
a copy of tcpserver running, probably under supervise.

Try that.

Ken Jones
inter7





<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>So what is qmail-smtp being used for?

Assuming you mean /var/log/qmail/smtpd/current, it's used by tcpserver
to log connections to port 25.

>i also don't really understand how multilog knows to pull information for
>smtp as opposed to send since the run scripts are practically identical,
>just in different locations (/var/qmail/supervise/(smtp or send)/log/run,
>and point to different directories to store the log.  I'm guessing either
>multilog or supervise knows that since it's in the ../smtp or ../send
>directory to gather information from the process started in there?

Multilog doesn't decide where messages go. It just reads messages from
standard input and writes them to the appropriate file in the
configured directory. Typically, qmail-send writes to one place (e.g.,
/var/log/qmail, and tcpserver writes to another
(/var/log/qmail/smtpd). This is usually configured in log/run script
(e.g., /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-send/log/run or
/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd/log/run).

-Dave




I have virtual domains configured using vpopmail and sqwebmail, they are
able to send mail to other domains hosted on the bsd 4.2 system i am using
to run these mail programs, however they are not allowed to send mail out to
other domains on the internet.

I _thought_ i configured the system with roaming users enabled.

I'm using supervise to start qmail.

here's my scripts.

/var/qmail/supervise/send/run

#!/bin/sh

# Using qmail-local to deliver messages to ~/Maildir by default.
PATH=/var/qmail/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin
export PATH
exec qmail-start ./Maildir
#exec qmail-start '|maildrop'
#splogger qmail&

/var/qmail/supervise/smtp/run

#!/bin/sh
# config for tcpserver to enable roaming users
PATH=/var/qmail/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin
export PATH
exec softlimit -m 2000000 tcpserver -H -R -x /home/vpopmail/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb
\
-c20 -u81 -g81 0 smtp rblsmtpd qmail-smtpd 2>&1

this is where i think the problem is.  for as long as i have had this system
running, i've never seen anything show up in the log file for smtp, (except
when i had things misconfigured and supervise couldn't start qmail-smtpd.
But since then, NOTHING shows up in this log file.

any help would be greatly appreciated.

Peter Brezny
SysAdmin Services Inc.





hi,

Peter Brezny wrote:

> I have virtual domains configured using vpopmail and sqwebmail, they are
> able to send mail to other domains hosted on the bsd 4.2 system i am
using
> to run these mail programs, however they are not allowed to send mail out
to
> other domains on the internet.
...snip...
> exec softlimit -m 2000000 tcpserver -H -R -x
> /home/vpopmail/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb
> \
> -c20 -u81 -g81 0 smtp rblsmtpd qmail-smtpd 2>&1
i am using neither vpopmail nor sqwebmail, so from my general point of
understanding
(i hope i did), the content of /home/vpopmail/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb is crucial
here.
since mail to your local domains is accepted, your control-files
seem to be well done. you have to put hosts and/or networks you trust into
tcp.smtp and
generate the tcp.smtp.cdb file. in commandline-world you would do that with
vi (or something else - pls do not flame) and with tcprules. i don't know,
if vpopmail and/or sqwebmail provide some interfaces for that.

hope that helps
alexander





hrm..i seem to be having problems with ORBS and RBL.  i have followed the 
instructions from 
http://www.summersault.com/chris/techno/qmail/qmail-antispam.html and 
modified my /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-smtpd/run file from

#!/bin/sh
QMAILDUID=`id -u qmaild`
NOFILESGID=`id -g qmaild`
MAXSMTPD=`cat /var/qmail/control/concurrencyincoming`
exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 2000000 \
     /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -p -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -c "$MAXSMTPD" \
         -u "$QMAILDUID" -g "$NOFILESGID" 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 
2>&1


to this

#!/bin/sh
QMAILDUID=`id -u qmaild`
NOFILESGID=`id -g qmaild`
MAXSMTPD=`cat /var/qmail/control/concurrencyincoming`
exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 2000000 \
         tcpserver -p -v -x/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -c "$MAXSMTPD" \
                 -u "$QMAILDUID" -g "$NOFILESGID" 0 25 \
                 rblsmtpd -rinputs.orbs.org -rblackholes.mail-abuse.org \
                 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd 2>&1

i test the filter using - http://www.orbs.org/testingfilters.html

and i get both mails back...am i overlooking something?  after i tackle 
this i'd also like to see if anyone has any usage statastics on usage or qmtp.

~kurth
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Owner, Ozone Computer

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----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Egli
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: WARNING

Dude,
 
The person sending the virus likely has no idea he (or she) is sending it. The virus infects your winsock32.dll file, so anyone who sends mail using a win32 client (like me for example) is vulnerable. The virus is sent automatically. They don't see it. Chill out, and warn people you are getting it and ask them to scan their systems for the virus. The latest versions of Mcafee and/or Norton Anti-Virus will find and kill the virus.
-- Dan

Thank you Dan for your kind reaction, I was somehow overheated because of  the 8 attempts of Snowhite on my data-system. I`m fully armed  now with the latest anti-virus software. Kaspersky Lab has information over "snowhite" and issued a warning over this highly dangerous Hybris worm. (http://www.kaspersky.com)
So what do you see in your mailbox wenn it comes; A message from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  (has nothing to do with sex, doesn`t even exist) but it starts with "Today, Snowhite was turning 18." all the rest you can imagine. The Dwarfs had a *huge*  surprise. Snowhite was anxious etc etc. The real danger has the attachment! So I was really pissed off. Reply to sender is useless (of course) but... if you go to, for example Yahoo USA, and you type [EMAIL PROTECTED]  then you will see how many warnings there already are, like Be Careful guys - www.ezboard.com about Snowhite attacks or Columbia Law School Virus Information. Well this was serious shit and I thought it came from the nearfield. (The source is probably in Latin-America).             Best wishes from Rembrandt L , Netherlands







        Just got hit with VBS.SST@mm ...


Will someone please let me know how to filter attachments, (*.vbs)   ~
Thanks!!!

Jesse Sunday








Am I right in think qmail-smtpd will never give this error? 

As I see it qmail-smtpd will only check the domain of the message to see
if it is valid, ie it will accept any valid username for localhost whether
the user actually exists on the system or not. 

Is that part handled by qmail-send?

Herbie (not a C guru but interested)





On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 02:29:27PM -0600, Herbie wrote:
> Am I right in think qmail-smtpd will never give this error? 

Yes.

> As I see it qmail-smtpd will only check the domain of the message to see
> if it is valid, ie it will accept any valid username for localhost whether
> the user actually exists on the system or not. 

Yes.

Greetz, Peter.




Herbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Am I right in think qmail-smtpd will never give this error? 

Yes.  However, it should be noted that servers which do return this error
are revealing valuable information -- spammers can use this technique to
build a list of valid email addresses, simply by connecting to port 25
and throwing a dictionary at it.

Charles
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Herbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Am I right in think qmail-smtpd will never give this error? 

Yes.

> As I see it qmail-smtpd will only check the domain of the message to see
> if it is valid, ie it will accept any valid username for localhost whether
> the user actually exists on the system or not. 
> 
> Is that part handled by qmail-send?

Yes.

qmail-send will generate a bounce message if the user ends up not
existing.  qmail-smtpd just checks the domain, and then sticks it in
the queue.

------ScottG.




On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:49:37 -0600, Charles Cazabon wrote:

>> Am I right in think qmail-smtpd will never give this error? 
>
>Yes.  However, it should be noted that servers which do return this error
>are revealing valuable information -- spammers can use this technique to
>build a list of valid email addresses, simply by connecting to port 25
>and throwing a dictionary at it.

I do not disagree. However you are damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Ever had a spam random attack? Sounds just like the dictionary attack just get 
squillions of messages directed at squillions of potential mailboxes.

What would you rather handle: spam sent to the valid few or bouncing heaps?

The spammers will get some through either way and sometimes an innocent forged 
MTA will have to handle all the bounces if the rejection is not immediate.

No simple answer, I think. I'd be pleased to be proven wrong, tho'.

What say Charles?

In the beginning was The Word
and The Word was Content-type: text/plain
The Word of Rod.







I have a few questions regarding adding new users and pop3 access.

I think I finally have a real working version of qmail on my server...
(after 2 months ;) )  Anyway, I followed an install HOWTO for FreeBSD users
(http://www.pofo.de/HOWTO/qmail/DE-qmail-HOWTO-2.html), made a few minor
adjustments (like making sure I had the most current versions of ucspi-tcp
and daemontools) and have the following running:

qmail 1.03
VmailMgr (0.96.9)
ucspi-tcp (0.88)
daemontools (0.70)
relay-ctrl (2.5)

in the /service directory, there are links to /var/qmail/service/pop3d,
/var/qmail/service/smtpd, and /var/qmail/service/qmail.  Within each of
those directories, there are run files that start up those respective
services.  They look like:

for pop3d:

#!/bin/sh
exec 2>&1 \
envdir ./env \
sh -c '
    case "$REMOTENAME" in h) H=;; p) H=p;; *) H=H;; esac
    case "$REMOTEINFO" in r) R=;; [0-9]*) R="t$REMOTEINFO";; *) R=R;; esac
    exec \
    softlimit ${DATALIMIT+"-d$DATALIMIT"} \
    /usr/local/bin/tcpserver \
        -vD"$H$R" \
        ${LOCALNAME+"-l$LOCALNAME"} \
        ${BACKLOG+"-b$BACKLOG"} \
        ${CONCURRENCY+"-c$CONCURRENCY"} \
        -xtcp.cdb \
        -- "${IP-0}" "${PORT-110}" \
    /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup "${POPUPHOST-`sed 1q /var/qmail/control/me`}"
\
    /usr/local/bin/checkvpw \
    /usr/local/sbin/relay-ctrl-allow \    /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d
"${MAILDIRN
AME-Maildir}"
'

for smtpd:

#!/bin/sh
exec 2>&1 \
envdir ./env \
sh -c '
    case "$REMOTENAME" in h) H=;; p) H=p;; *) H=H;; esac
    case "$REMOTEINFO" in r) R=;; [0-9]*) R="t$REMOTEINFO";; *) R=R;; esac
    exec \
    envuidgid qmaild \
    softlimit ${DATALIMIT+"-d$DATALIMIT"} \
    /usr/local/bin/tcpserver \
        -vDU"$H$R" \
        ${LOCALNAME+"-l$LOCALNAME"} \
        ${BACKLOG+"-b$BACKLOG"} \
        ${CONCURRENCY+"-c$CONCURRENCY"} \
        -xtcp.cdb \
        -- "${IP-0}" "${PORT-25}" \
    /usr/local/bin/rblsmtpd -b -r "relays.mail-abuse.org:Open relay
problem - se
e <http://www.mail-abuse.org/cgi-bin/nph-rss?%IP%>" \
    /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd \
#    /usr/local/bin/checkvpw \
#    /usr/bin/true \
#    /usr/local/bin/cmd5checkpw \
#    /usr/bin/true'

for qmail:

#!/bin/sh
exec /var/qmail/rc

which is:

#\!/bin/sh
exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \
qmail-start ./Maildir/ /usr/local/bin/multilog t /var/log/qmail qmaill

Right now, I only have two users besides root.  They are newuser and
newuser2.  (I am currently only working with newuser.)  The problem is that
when I try to use a client like MS Outlook to pick up mail in newuser's
Maildir, I can't get past the authentication.  I don't know which of these
parameters could be causes for my problem - or if I'm even trying to
authenticate correctly.

in the /var/qmail/control:

virtualdomains:
.mydomain.net:newuser

locals:
.mydomain.net
mail.mydomain.net
servername.mydomain.net

rcpthosts:
.mydomain.net

me:
mail.mydomain.net

Firstly, should I be authenticating as username: username (not
[EMAIL PROTECTED])?

Secondly, with the scripts above EXACTLY like they are, am I making a
mistake in some of the parameters?

Thirdly, what is the best way to add users who are only to be mail users -
using vmailmgr?  I have tried to understand the faqs on vmailmgr.org's page,
but I'm confused as to what one is supposed to do.  I followed the
directions in the VMailMGR HOWTO and created a new user "bogus" with the
vadduser program, restarted the services, no avail - I cannot log into that
account.  I noticed that "bogus" was also not added to virtualdomains in
/var/qmail/control.

This box is to be the mail server for multiple domains (I haven't exactly
figured out how you associate a given user with a given domain, though) and
all the users - that's all this box will be for, email - will access their
accounts through pop3 or IMAP4 clients.  If I am going about this the wrong
way, please warn me...  I know this may not be the ultimate setup, but I'm
simply happy that I finally have a working server!

Thanks,
SF





One other thing I realized after writing this and also probing some more.  If I try to 
create a user using vadduser and then switch to that user (either by logging in as 
"him" or su'ing to "him"), the response is "unknown login". - so going through and 
adding the Systemuser account (which is another thing I didn't know whether I needed 
for those users already set up to use qmail) is not possible, thus I don't have a home 
directory set up for the virtualdomain...  Now I'm really confused...

Thanks for any help in advance...
SF

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "SF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:44:16 -0600

>I have a few questions regarding adding new users and pop3 access.
>
>I think I finally have a real working version of qmail on my server...
>(after 2 months ;) )  Anyway, I followed an install HOWTO for FreeBSD users
>(http://www.pofo.de/HOWTO/qmail/DE-qmail-HOWTO-2.html), made a few minor
>adjustments (like making sure I had the most current versions of ucspi-tcp
>and daemontools) and have the following running:
>
>qmail 1.03
>VmailMgr (0.96.9)
>ucspi-tcp (0.88)
>daemontools (0.70)
>relay-ctrl (2.5)
>
>in the /service directory, there are links to /var/qmail/service/pop3d,
>/var/qmail/service/smtpd, and /var/qmail/service/qmail.  Within each of
<snip>




Daniellek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I had concurrencyremote set to 40, but with this setting it blocked my queue
>for several hours! (some of receipments are very far from me), so i switched 
>to 120 and it's better because queue is blocked for 30 minutes at most, but
>i takes all my bandwith...
>
>I'm searching for some solution which could make "private queue" for this
>client...

You can install qmail again, e.g. under /var/qmail2, and use this
second installation for your problem client. The trick will be
diverting his messages to that qmail installation.

If his ~2000 user list is handled by a list manager (such as ezmlm) on
the qmail server, you can just reconfigure his list to use
/var/qmail2/bin/qmail-inject. Same deal if injects the messages from a
login account.

If he injects them via SMTP, it's a bit trickier. You could run
/var/qmail2/bin/qmail-smtpd on a non-standard port, e.g., 2500, and
tell him to configure his mail client to use port 2500.

You could also configure your main tcpserver to listen to port 25 on
the existing IP address (and 127.0.0.1) and set up another tcpserver
on an aliased IP address dedicated to that client. Then you'd have to
tell him to configure his mailer to that IP alias.

If all this just flew over your head, you can ask for clarification
or consider hiring a qmail expert to do it for you.

-Dave




Is it possible to run smtp-auth using the system password databse and
files?

As I read it you have to be running 'virtual users' with a separate
passwd file, I have done this on other boxes (not running smtp-auth) but
this system has real users with real shells and they just happen to travel
occasionally. Literature on this is sparse to say the least, all help
gratefully received.

Herbie








        I've already asked, but no one has responded, so I'll ask again...
Please help...


I just cleared the queue of a lot of mails spawned by the 'virus'  ~  If
anyone can point me to how to filter certain types of  attachments I would
really appreciate it...


Our system was hit earlier today (thankfully few users run Outlook) and I am
trying to curb any future outbreaks...

Here's info if you haven't heard about it...

http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]







Jesse Sunday <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I just cleared the queue of a lot of mails spawned by the 'virus'  ~  If
> anyone can point me to how to filter certain types of  attachments I would
> really appreciate it...

Everything you need is referenced at www.qmail.org.

Charles
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On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, Jesse Sunday wrote:
>I've already asked, but no one has responded, so I'll ask again...
>Please help...
>
>
>I just cleared the queue of a lot of mails spawned by the 'virus'  ~  If
>anyone can point me to how to filter certain types of  attachments I would
>really appreciate it...
>
>
>Our system was hit earlier today (thankfully few users run Outlook) and I am
>trying to curb any future outbreaks...
>
>Here's info if you haven't heard about it...
>
>http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

look into qmail-scanner (http://qmail-scanner.sourceforge.net)

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***********************************
Matthew H Patterson
Unix Systems Administrator
National Support Center, LLC
Naperville, Illinois, USA
***********************************




On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 04:46:32PM -0500, Jesse Sunday wrote:
> 
>         I've already asked, but no one has responded, so I'll ask again...
> Please help...

How long ago did you ask?

Greetz, Peter.




At 03:11 PM 2/12/2001, Charles Cazabon wrote:
>Jesse Sunday <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I just cleared the queue of a lot of mails spawned by the 'virus'  ~  If
> > anyone can point me to how to filter certain types of  attachments I would
> > really appreciate it...
>
>Everything you need is referenced at www.qmail.org.
>
>Charles
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>GPL'ed software available at:  http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/
>Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions.
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The exact tool you're looking for is called qmail-scanner and it can be found
at http://qmail-scanner.sourceforge.net/

I've used it for a while now...it works perfectly! Although I'm surprised that
I only caught two of today's worms with it. And those were from the same
infected source. I guess we're just not popular. Dubious benefit that is.

If you use it and decide that there are someone your network who can be
trusted with attachments (like yourself), let me know and I'll get you the
patch I made to add an exclude list.

Jer





It would be best to look at www.qmail.org first before asking but...*sigh*

take a look at the qmail scanner packages there or for a more lightwieght
version get qmail-qfilter by Bruce Guenter.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jesse Sunday [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 4:47 PM
To: Qmail mailing list
Subject: Anna Kournikova ~ VBS.SST@MM ~ Please Help...




        I've already asked, but no one has responded, so I'll ask again...
Please help...


I just cleared the queue of a lot of mails spawned by the 'virus'  ~  If
anyone can point me to how to filter certain types of  attachments I would
really appreciate it...


Our system was hit earlier today (thankfully few users run Outlook) and I am
trying to curb any future outbreaks...

Here's info if you haven't heard about it...

http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]








Look in /home/vpopmail/domains/domain.com. There should be a .qmail-default
file in that location that calls vdelivermail. If that exists, check to make
sure you have a directory for "user" in the domain directory as well.

I also use qmail+vpopmail, so I can help further if the above doesn't reveal
anything.

-K

"Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to
anger."


> From: Roger Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 15:24:54 +1100
> To: Qmail Users <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Could someone just tell me the reason for this message
> 
> Roger Arnold wrote:
> 
> Could someone just tell me the reason for this message so I can start
> over, sorting it out please?
> I think I am brain dead because I am just going around in circles.
> Email client message:
> 
> An error occurred while sending mail.
> The mail server responded:
> 5.1.1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... User unknown
> Please check the message recipients and try again.
> 
> What I need to know is:
> Is this error caused by a problem in RELAYCLIENT or
> An error in Qmails control files or
> Something else
> 
> I have been reading and reading until I don't know arthur from martha,
> and am now totaly confused.
> Yes I am a newbie
> 
> One last thing, can you have 2 startup lines for tcpserver (one for pop3
> and one for smtp)
> Eg.
> /usr/bin/tcpserver -u vpopmail -g vchkpw -H -R 0 pop-3
> /usr/bin/qmail-popup jupiter.webways-hosting.net
> /home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw /usr/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir &
> 
> /usr/bin/tcpserver -x/home/vpopmail/etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u101 -g16 0 smtp
> /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd &
> 
> Many thanks in advance for any and all help
> Regards
> Roger
> 
> 





Hi all..

Can anyone suggest an authentication scheme for courier-imap when using
qmail-ldap ?

How should I compile authentication into ciourier if qmail-ldap is going to
handle authentication via ldap ?

Dennis





Hi all...

I was hoping to ask for assistance with a "very simple" plan of attack on
setting up my new qmail server.

My requirements.

qmail
qmail-ldap (authentication)
courier-imap
courier-pop3
sqwebmail

Can anyone outline a suggested plan. eg.

patch qmail with qmail-ldap
install openldap
install openssl
install qmail
install courier-imap ...

I'm confused about the way these systems will be interacting e.g..
If I use courier-imap, what auth scheme will i need seeing as though I want
qmail-ldap to handle authentication and maildir creation ?

What auth screme with the pop3 server use ?

Am I making any sense ?


Cheers
Dennis





dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I'm confused about the way these systems will be interacting e.g..
> If I use courier-imap, what auth scheme will i need seeing as though I want
> qmail-ldap to handle authentication and maildir creation ?

qmail-ldap apparently has a mailing list of its own.  I suspect you will
find more experienced qmail-ldap users there than on the qmail list.
qmail-ldap isn't (to the best of my knowledge) as widely used by the members
of this list as, say, big-todo.

Charles
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Hi Pete...

qmail-ldap has the ability to make Maildir's when missing if the user
authenticates via ldap (if approprate ldap entries are present for that
user)

My mistake re courier-pop3, I ment qmail-pop3

I've successfully set up courier-imap on my qmail test box that has been
running flawlessly for months, no big deal.

As a matter of fact, it was running...

qmail
qmail-pop3d
courier-imapd
sqwebmail


My confusion lies with the authentication system setup with ldap.





-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Cavender [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 13 February 2001 2:10 PM
To: dennis
Subject: Re: Suggestions please


> Hi all...
>
> I was hoping to ask for assistance with a "very simple" plan of attack on
> setting up my new qmail server.
>
> My requirements.
>
> qmail
> qmail-ldap (authentication)
> courier-imap
> courier-pop3
> sqwebmail
>
> Can anyone outline a suggested plan. eg.
>
> patch qmail with qmail-ldap
> install openldap
> install openssl
> install qmail
> install courier-imap ...
>
> I'm confused about the way these systems will be interacting e.g..
> If I use courier-imap, what auth scheme will i need seeing as though I
want
> qmail-ldap to handle authentication and maildir creation ?

Why would qmail-ldap make maildirs?  Isn't that part of making new user
accounts?

> What auth screme with the pop3 server use ?

Why are you using the courier POP server rather than qmail-pop3d?  It hase
served me well so far...

> Am I making any sense ?

Well, yes, as a newbie :-)  I have been running qmail for 2 years but am
not just venturing into IMAP, so I both want to be of assistance, and
learn what you figure out... Folks on the list can be a bit short and
snarky, but with persistance you will find aid and info.

Pleased to meet you,

--Pete






I am running Qmail on a Unix box with BSDI 4.0 and Apache.  My client has
been trying to get his email, but the first message is so big his receiving
program locks up.  I went into /usr/var/vpopmail/users/hisname/Maildir/new
and deleted the message with the lowest number, assuming that was the first
and hoping it was the culprit.  No such luck.

My questions to you:  Is there a command to show the size of the various
emails in his box without opening each one individually?  OR, did I go into
the wrong list?  Maybe /cur instead of /new?  Which one actually delivers
the mail?





On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 09:19:35PM -0600, Virginia Chism wrote:
> Is there a command to show the size of the various
> emails in his box without opening each one individually?

ls -l






Thank you one and all.  I am slowly getting to the bottom of this - and
learning a lot, too.





Thanks for all your help.  I deleted the largest from both /cur and /new.
That did not help.  Since the client is also my husband, I felt safe in
reading the email to see if it were important, then deleted all the junk
from both directories.  Don't know which specific email was the problem, but
got rid of the hangup.  Looking back at the directories after the email was
delivered, I found that /cur is the actual delivering directory in this
situation.

Again, thanks.





At 10:19 PM 2/12/2001, Virginia Chism wrote:

hrm....sounds like a ownership problem...check ownerships on the files and 
dirs. they should be the user and group

~kurth

>I am running Qmail on a Unix box with BSDI 4.0 and Apache.  My client has
>been trying to get his email, but the first message is so big his receiving
>program locks up.  I went into /usr/var/vpopmail/users/hisname/Maildir/new
>and deleted the message with the lowest number, assuming that was the first
>and hoping it was the culprit.  No such luck.
>
>My questions to you:  Is there a command to show the size of the various
>emails in his box without opening each one individually?  OR, did I go into
>the wrong list?  Maybe /cur instead of /new?  Which one actually delivers
>the mail?





I've been having an ongoing problem with mail delivery, and I'm stumped.  I've
searched the list archives, and haven't been able to find an answer...hopefully
one of you can point me in the right direction.

My home network is setup with a machine, ariel.hisword.net, that acts as a
firewall and mailhost for my internal private network.  My "main" desktop
machine is ezekiel.hisword.net, but it has no direct connection to the Internet
(it connects to the Internet thru ariel).  All mail is received by ariel, and
then mail addressed to thoover is forwarded to ezekiel.

The problem is this...every few days, ariel cannot connect to ezekiel.  Here's
a snippet from my mail.log when this happens:

Feb 12 20:56:41 ariel qmail: 982032998.075740 starting delivery 744: msg 55634 to 
remote [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Feb 12 20:56:41 ariel qmail: 982032998.077265 status: local 1/10 remote 2/20 
Feb 12 20:56:41 ariel qmail: 982032998.117424 delivery 744: deferral: 
Sorry,_I_wasn't_able_to_establish_an_SMTP_connection._(#4.4.1)/ 
Feb 12 20:56:41 ariel qmail: 982032998.118819 status: local 1/10 remote 1/20 
Feb 12 20:56:41 ariel qmail: 982032998.256362 new msg 55632 
Feb 12 20:56:41 ariel qmail: 982032998.259617 info msg 55632: bytes 1588 from 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 4617 uid 64010 
Feb 12 20:56:41 ariel qmail: 982032998.477456 starting delivery 745: msg 55632 to 
local [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Feb 12 20:56:41 ariel qmail: 982032998.479578 status: local 2/10 remote 1/20 
Feb 12 20:56:41 ariel qmail: 982032998.481258 delivery 743: success: 
did_0+1+0/qp_4617/ 
Feb 12 20:56:41 ariel qmail: 982032998.483973 status: local 1/10 remote 1/20 
Feb 12 20:56:41 ariel qmail: 982032998.487246 end msg 55641 
Feb 12 20:56:41 ariel qmail: 982032998.872603 new msg 55637 
Feb 12 20:56:42 ariel qmail: 982032998.874282 info msg 55637: bytes 1699 from 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 4621 uid 1000 
Feb 12 20:56:42 ariel qmail: 982032999.123494 delivery 745: success: 
did_0+1+0/qp_4621/ 
Feb 12 20:56:42 ariel qmail: 982032999.124884 status: local 0/10 remote 1/20 
Feb 12 20:56:42 ariel qmail: 982032999.126232 starting delivery 746: msg 55637 to 
remote [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Feb 12 20:56:42 ariel qmail: 982032999.127009 status: local 0/10 remote 2/20 
Feb 12 20:56:42 ariel qmail: 982032999.127716 end msg 55632 
Feb 12 20:56:42 ariel qmail: 982032999.187387 delivery 746: deferral: 
Sorry,_I_wasn't_able_to_establish_an_SMTP_connection._(#4.4.1)/ 
Feb 12 20:56:42 ariel qmail: 982032999.188806 status: local 0/10 remote 1/20 

As you can see above, ariel is unable to establish an SMTP connection with
ezekiel, but continues to receive mail from the Internet.  I've tried
restarting both qmail and bind on both machines when this happens, but it
doesn't help.  If I just leave things alone, it will eventually start working
again (it may be 4-5 hrs, it may be 8-10 hrs, it may be 24 hrs, but it always
will start working again by itself).

When the problem is occuring, "telnet ezekiel 25" from ariel results in a
timeout, so it's apparent that they really cannot communicate during this time.
I assumed at this point that there was something happening on ezekiel that
caused it to fail to accept an SMTP connection, but a total reboot of ezekiel
made no difference.  

Now here's the weird thing... I found that a reboot of ariel fixes things right
up.  So, whatever is happening is a problem on ariel, which prevents it from
_connecting_ to the SMTP port on ezekiel (neither qmail nor telnet can
connect).  Whatever it is will eventually "cure" itself, but then will occur
again a day or two later.  A reboot "cures" the problem immediately.

I've been running Debian potato on both machines for several months.  When I
was running potato on ezekiel, and RH 5.2 on ariel, the problem never occured.
It started sometime after installing potato on ariel.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?  Thanks!

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Hello,

 It might be stupid question, but I have no clue where should I put startup
line for qmail-pop3d and vchkpw? I tried in /var/qmail/rc but it didn't
work. Please help me!

aleks





I just installed the latest ucspi-tcp from the tarball on cr.yp.to, and
there are no man pages.  My previous install almost 2 years ago included
them, and I am wondering if they are no longer included or if I missed
something.

Thanks,

Peter





On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 11:47:38PM -0500, Peter Cavender wrote:
> I just installed the latest ucspi-tcp from the tarball on cr.yp.to, and
> there are no man pages.  My previous install almost 2 years ago included
> them, and I am wondering if they are no longer included or if I missed
> something.

Yeah, I have that problem too.  The qmail environment is so reliable 
I forget how it goes together and where are the sources. :-)

Thank you to everyone that made that possible.

cfm

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Content management, electronic commerce, internet integration, Debian linux




On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 11:47:38PM -0500, Peter Cavender wrote:
> I just installed the latest ucspi-tcp from the tarball on cr.yp.to, and
> there are no man pages.  My previous install almost 2 years ago included
> them, and I am wondering if they are no longer included or if I missed
> something.
>
You could check the archive, www.qmail.org, google, ....
Get manpages from: http://innominate.org/~pape/djb/ .

Gerrit.

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Dear Miliser,

I have some probelm when I compile courier-imap, the error message
when I compile is like this
[afif@dodol courier-imap-1.3.3]$ ./configure

checking whether the C++ compiler (gcc  ) works... no
configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler cannot cre
ate executables.
configure: error: ./configure failed for bdbobj

need your solution pls

Tks &  regards,
The Afif
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]






your OS is solaris ?

----- Original Message -----
From: "The Afif" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 2:08 PM
Subject: Compile error Courier-imap


> Dear Miliser,
>
> I have some probelm when I compile courier-imap, the error message
> when I compile is like this
> [afif@dodol courier-imap-1.3.3]$ ./configure
>
> checking whether the C++ compiler (gcc  ) works... no
> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler
cannot cre
> ate executables.
> configure: error: ./configure failed for bdbobj
>
> need your solution pls
>
> Tks &  regards,
> The Afif
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>





Hello

I have a mail server currently running EIMS (Eudora Internet Mail 
Server, a descendent of the Apple Internet Mail Server) running on a 
Macintosh. I'm keen to migrate to Qmail. The one box currently serves 
as inbound mta, outbound mta, and pop3 server.

Has anyone else ever done this? I'd be happy to hear of any issues 
etc that you may have encountered.

The first big issue that is on my mind is the "percent hack" for 
virtual domains. EIMS implements virtual domains for pop3 in an 
interesting manner... a user who's email address is, say, 
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" will have to enter the following as his username in 
his email client: "peter%no.domain"

Is there any support for this with qpopper, or any other pop3 server 
that works with qmail???

Thanks

-jesse

-- 

       Jesse Reynolds - Virtual Artists Pty Ltd - http://www.va.com.au
                                                  jesse (at) va.com.au




Asked earlier here about virus scanning and qmail, regarding how to set it
up so that i can define in some way which of the domains that should be
scanned. People said that i could use the qmail-scanner (with some
modifications..). The problem is that im not really that good in perl so i
wont risk bringing down our mail system testing it.

So i wonder, is there anyone out there who has made a system for selective
virus scanning with qmail? So you dont have to scan all of the mail going
trough.. only the domains you specify..?

Regards
Tore





I'm using AMaVis, which works as replacing the original qmail-local and
qmail-remote. I think that you could try to put the scanner script in the
delivery instruction of the domains you want scanned, instead of replacing
qmail-remote and local

Regards, Milen

> Asked earlier here about virus scanning and qmail, regarding how to set it
> up so that i can define in some way which of the domains that should be
> scanned. People said that i could use the qmail-scanner (with some
> modifications..). The problem is that im not really that good in perl so i
> wont risk bringing down our mail system testing it.
>
> So i wonder, is there anyone out there who has made a system for selective
> virus scanning with qmail? So you dont have to scan all of the mail going
> trough.. only the domains you specify..?
>
> Regards
> Tore
>
>





I'm new to Linux and new to qmail I never post to that list before.
installed qmail on RedHat7 following LWQ:

qmail-1.03.tar.gz + qmail-103.patch
ucspi-tcp-0.88.tar.gz
daemontools-0.70.tar.gz
checkpassword-0.81.tar

Everything looks fine but...
When I send mail typing form shell:
# mail bob
mail ends up in /home/bob/Maildir/new

The question is:
What file(s) should I create or edit to get that
massage out of /Maildir/new?
(using Netscape mail client on localhost or ms-outlook from
other host in my network or the best solution could be
if I can just type mail form command line in shell
and insted of massage: No mail for bob I would like to see:
You have new mail.)

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Janusz Ole�     http://www.insomnia.com.pl





The mail program looks for message in /var/spool/mail/USERNAME and qmail
works with Maildir.

In qmail.org site there is link to a patched version of pine, so I can read
messages from maildir.


----- Original Message -----
From: "INSOMNIA - Janusz Oles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 6:01 AM
Subject: How to get them out of Maildr?


I'm new to Linux and new to qmail I never post to that list before.
installed qmail on RedHat7 following LWQ:

qmail-1.03.tar.gz + qmail-103.patch
ucspi-tcp-0.88.tar.gz
daemontools-0.70.tar.gz
checkpassword-0.81.tar

Everything looks fine but...
When I send mail typing form shell:
# mail bob
mail ends up in /home/bob/Maildir/new

The question is:
What file(s) should I create or edit to get that
massage out of /Maildir/new?
(using Netscape mail client on localhost or ms-outlook from
other host in my network or the best solution could be
if I can just type mail form command line in shell
and insted of massage: No mail for bob I would like to see:
You have new mail.)

------------------------------------------
Janusz Ole�     http://www.insomnia.com.pl





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