qmail Digest 10 Mar 2001 11:00:01 -0000 Issue 1299
Topics (messages 58713 through 58798):
sending a newsletter
58713 by: Jon
58719 by: Charles Cazabon
58728 by: Jon
58733 by: Charles Cazabon
58741 by: Jon
58746 by: Charles Cazabon
58747 by: Peter Green
Traffic measurement
58714 by: Qmaillist
58757 by: Markus Stumpf
Re: NAKEDWIFE.EXE Virus - Filter available
58715 by: Erwin Hoffmann
58793 by: Kari Suomela
58794 by: Kari Suomela
58795 by: Todd Finney
58796 by: Kari Suomela
Re: Qmail Queue is out of control ....
58716 by: Frédéric Beléteau
58720 by: Charles Cazabon
58723 by: Frédéric Beléteau
58724 by: Charles Cazabon
58730 by: Frédéric Beléteau
58735 by: Charles Cazabon
58752 by: Sean C Truman
Re: My qmail could not send to another host
58717 by: Charles Cazabon
58760 by: Edward J. Allen III
Re: mailer-daemon: editing error messages ?
58718 by: Charles Cazabon
58740 by: José Carreiro
58745 by: Charles Cazabon
Slowing down for Exchange servers
58721 by: Michael T. Babcock
58722 by: Charles Cazabon
OK I give up!!!
58725 by: Kirti S. Bajwa
58727 by: Charles Cazabon
58729 by: Kurth Bemis
58731 by: Kirti S. Bajwa
58732 by: Charles Cazabon
58734 by: Peter Green
58737 by: Kirti S. Bajwa
58753 by: Adam McKenna
Strange DNS problem
58726 by: Karl Monaghan
Re: apop and authenticated smtp
58736 by: Kris Kelley
CHECKATTATCH - qmail-inject...
58738 by: jsunday.parview.com
58749 by: Erwin Hoffmann
58750 by: Jesse Sunday
Re: Recommended patches for high-volume ezmlm server
58739 by: Mate Wierdl
58743 by: Don Rose
Re: qmail postfix
58742 by: Mate Wierdl
58754 by: Markus Stumpf
Re: Selective relaying -Nonstandard style, tough one. Anyone got any ideas? A
challenge!
58744 by: Michael T. Babcock
What is so sad... Re: OK I give up!!!
58748 by: Choz Sun
58751 by: Kurth Bemis
58761 by: Sean C Truman
58772 by: Kurth Bemis
58776 by: Sean C Truman
Is there anyway to have CHECKATTATCH delete the attatchment before rejecting it???
58755 by: Jesse Sunday
Q-Mail - pop3d log script
58756 by: Sean Coyle
Bare linefeeds not accepted by Qmail? - Vendor agrees
58758 by: Cameron Childress
58770 by: Cameron Childress
Re: Error 554 from hotmail
58759 by: Tim Hunter
58775 by: James R Grinter
News server
58762 by: Peter Mitev
58764 by: Charles Cazabon
58766 by: Aaron L. Meehan
traffic
58763 by: Qmaillist
58781 by: Sean Coyle
58791 by: Qmaillist
Re: Yet another weird POP3 problem
58765 by: Sean Coyle
logrotation
58767 by: Qmaillist
58768 by: Greg White
58769 by: Tim Hunter
58771 by: Edward J. Allen III
OK - I did not GIVE up - POP3 Problem!!
58773 by: Kirti S. Bajwa
Re: Connections Deferred
58774 by: James R Grinter
Fastforward not using users/assign (two questions)?
58777 by: Leander Berwers
58798 by: Gerrit Pape
supervised pop3d
58778 by: Todd A. Jacobs
58780 by: Tim Hunter
58782 by: Kris Kelley
pop3d needs SUID root?
58779 by: Todd A. Jacobs
58783 by: Chris Johnson
58784 by: Ricardo Cerqueira
58785 by: Aaron L. Meehan
58786 by: Mark Delany
58787 by: Mark Delany
58788 by: Aaron L. Meehan
Please help!!!
58789 by: Avery Brooks
58792 by: THCI Billing Department
qmail-scanner handoff to qmail-queue not going well
58790 by: Chris Garrigues
question with qmail-remote
58797 by: Rick Yang
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Hey,
Background - we have been running a simple newsletter on our site for over a
year now - we coded the adding/remove of people on the list ourself, as it
very customised for the site. Up to now we have been sending the newsletter
by using qmail-inject for every email address on the list. Now its got to a
stage which is too much (50,000 email addresses on the list).
I have been reading this list and some people has been talking about sending
the messages stright into qmail-queue and not qmail-inject.
Would this speed up everything for me - less load on the server, faster send
time?
Also someone else mentioned using qmail-remote to send the message, if it
was sent ok move onto the next email, if not put into queue - and they
posted a basic run down of the code needed for this- I have searched for
this and can not find it - any remember it please and would this be better
for me?
I know I should move onto to using exmlm and it a great program, however we
have wrote customised scripts for the newsletter and it working ok - just
the sending of it is poor at the moment. Also its just a stright send type
newsletter, not a discussion list.
Thanks a lot!
Jon
Jon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Background - we have been running a simple newsletter on our site for over a
> year now - we coded the adding/remove of people on the list ourself, as it
> very customised for the site. Up to now we have been sending the newsletter
> by using qmail-inject for every email address on the list. Now its got to a
> stage which is too much (50,000 email addresses on the list).
>
> I have been reading this list and some people has been talking about sending
> the messages stright into qmail-queue and not qmail-inject.
>
> Would this speed up everything for me - less load on the server, faster send
> time?
Provided you supply qmail-queue with all the recipients at once, yes, you
would see a (possibly large) improvement.
If you use qmail-queue this way, you are sending one message to 50000
recipients. If you call qmail-queue (or qmail-inject) separately for each
recipient, you're queuing 50000 messages, each for one recipient. There's
a big difference.
Charles
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Hi,
Thanks for that - I was reading the man page for qmail-queue and not got a
clue! So if you could show me how to pass the information needed to
qmail-queue that would be great (the format of it etc).
Thanks for your help so far!
Jon
> Provided you supply qmail-queue with all the recipients at once, yes, you
> would see a (possibly large) improvement.
>
> If you use qmail-queue this way, you are sending one message to 50000
> recipients. If you call qmail-queue (or qmail-inject) separately for each
> recipient, you're queuing 50000 messages, each for one recipient. There's
> a big difference.
>
> > Background - we have been running a simple newsletter on our site for
over a
> > year now - we coded the adding/remove of people on the list ourself, as
it
> > very customised for the site. Up to now we have been sending the
newsletter
> > by using qmail-inject for every email address on the list. Now its got
to a
> > stage which is too much (50,000 email addresses on the list).
> >
> > I have been reading this list and some people has been talking about
sending
> > the messages stright into qmail-queue and not qmail-inject.
> >
> > Would this speed up everything for me - less load on the server, faster
send
> > time?
>
Jon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Provided you supply qmail-queue with all the recipients at once, yes, you
> > would see a (possibly large) improvement.
> >
> > If you use qmail-queue this way, you are sending one message to 50000
> > recipients. If you call qmail-queue (or qmail-inject) separately for each
> > recipient, you're queuing 50000 messages, each for one recipient. There's
> > a big difference.
> Thanks for that - I was reading the man page for qmail-queue and not got a
> clue! So if you could show me how to pass the information needed to
> qmail-queue that would be great (the format of it etc).
The man page actually does have all the necessary information in it.
Create a file for the envelope information; put all fifty thousand recipients in it.
This file has the format
"F" <sender-address> <NUL>
"T" <recipient-address <NUL>
...
<NUL>
Put the actual email message (properly formatted, with headers) in another
file. Then run qmail-queue with fd 0 open on the message file, and fd 1
open on the envelope file. If qmail-queue exits 0, everything went fine.
Otherwise, you didn't do it right.
Charles
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Hi,
The first 2 bits are no problem - add all the email addresses into a file
and the message into a file. But the problem is the final bit -
>Then run qmail-queue with fd 0 open on the message file, and fd 1
> open on the envelope file.
I am trying to do this in perl and don't know how. So if anyone can point
me in the right direction that would be great.
Thanks for your help today Charles - your been great :-)
All the best,
Jon
<have a great weekend everyone :-) >
> The man page actually does have all the necessary information in it.
> Create a file for the envelope information; put all fifty thousand
recipients in it. This file has the format
> "F" <sender-address> <NUL>
> "T" <recipient-address <NUL>
> ...
> <NUL>
>
> Put the actual email message (properly formatted, with headers) in another
> file. Then run qmail-queue with fd 0 open on the message file, and fd 1
> open on the envelope file. If qmail-queue exits 0, everything went fine.
> Otherwise, you didn't do it right.
>
Jon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The first 2 bits are no problem - add all the email addresses into a file
> and the message into a file. But the problem is the final bit -
>
> >Then run qmail-queue with fd 0 open on the message file, and fd 1
> > open on the envelope file.
>
> I am trying to do this in perl and don't know how. So if anyone can point
> me in the right direction that would be great.
I don't know Perl. In shell it would be as simple as:
qmail-queue 0<message.txt 1<envelope.txt
Perhaps a Perl-knowledgable member of this list could supply the equivalent
Perl code.
Charles
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* Jon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010309 11:47]:
> >Then run qmail-queue with fd 0 open on the message file, and fd 1
> > open on the envelope file.
>
> I am trying to do this in perl and don't know how. So if anyone can point
> me in the right direction that would be great.
Can't remember where I found the help to do this, but I do something similar
in a Perl script, I think. This is untested, so don't complain if it doesn't
work!
open MSG,"/path/to/the/msgfile" ...
open ENV,"/path/to/the/envelope" ...
open \*STDIN, "<&MSG" ...
open \*STDOUT, "<&ENV" ...
$rc = system "/var/qmail/bin/qmail-queue";
if ($rc) {
# error; interpret it
}
I'm especially not sure about the STDOUT bit, but IIRC that's fd 1, and
seems like it's the logical thing.
Good luck! :-)
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Hello.
I was searching the newsgroups and discussion lists for about 3 days now
until I thought... why don't you ask the experts.
I tried many tools in order to get to know how much traffic my different
virtual domains on my machine (not every domain has its own IP) comsume.
I tried ISOQLOG (but this did not work, It never showed the right values), I
tried Qmailanalog (but here the output was a bit consufing although it
worked).
With qmailanalog I was able to produce an output with these commands:
cat matched_mail.log | xsender user@xxxxxxxxxx | zrecipients -> this works
cat matched_mail.log | xrecipient user@xxxxxxxxxx | zsenders -> this gives
me chaos
But even with the first output I am not really satisfied because here I
would need to type in every user of a domain (and this might be over 50 or
so).
So I tried to look for other tools but I did not find any.
Someone said that qmailanalog was just a kind of gimmick of the author of
qmail and that in the next version qmailanalog will become obsolete because
logging will be more specific in qmail itself.
When will this version be available?
I hope you have some answers for me since this topic has been discussed a
lot of times.
Thanks in advance.
Stephan Winter
On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 12:41:16PM +0100, Qmaillist wrote:
> I tried many tools in order to get to know how much traffic my different
> virtual domains on my machine (not every domain has its own IP) comsume.
Sorry, no script but a way to code ... we use something similar but it
wouldn't help as it is highly dependant on some logging modifications
we'd made.
When you get a new email qmail logs:
mail qmail: 984092366.436762 new msg 603366
mail qmail: 984092366.437102 info msg 603366: bytes 51771 from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
qp 39056 uid 101
Important is the message number: 603366
This shows up again when qmail delivers the email:
mail qmail: 984092366.476909 starting delivery 573283: msg 603366 to local
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mail qmail: 984092366.579607 delivery 573283: success: did_1+0+0/
>From this two lines you can see that msg 603366 triggered a delivery
with id 573283 that was successful.
After that qmail is done with the message and logs
mail qmail: 984092366.608063 end msg 603366
With this infos it shouldn't be too hard to code a script that processes
this information and outputs lines like
Bytes Sender Recipient
51771 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and a postprocessor that e.g. sums up the bytes for each recipient.domain
or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
With all that you should have in mind that the size info is only the
payload (i.e. the number of bytes as seen by qmail) and does not account
for the real TCP/IP and SMTP protocol overhead.
Form our experience during the years you have to multiply by a factor of
1.8 to get close to the average ip traffic each message consumes.
\Maex
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Hi,
how should I know, with this little informatin you provided.
At 16:53 9.3.2001 +0700, Chrisanthy Carlane wrote:
>I tried that, and follow the instruction,tried to send an email with "sex"
-----------------------------------------------------------------------^^^ --
The script "checksubj" works case-sensitive. If you didn't modified it,
it only scans for "Sex".
You can change that on demand as described.
Take care that you deleted any potential control characters in the last line.
cheers.
eh.
>subject to an account but didn't find any bounce message.
>
>I've add the 3 files path in the related .qmail file as written in
>installation instruction.
>
>What could be wrong?
>
>Thanks
>Chrisanthy
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Kari Suomela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 8:10 AM
>Subject: NAKEDWIFE.EXE Virus - Filter available
>
>
>>
>> Wednesday March 07 2001 21:11, Erwin Hoffmann wrote to All:
>>
>> EH> I made a shortcut filter for those attachements.
>> EH> Feel free to apply it.
>>
>> EH> http://www.fehcom.de/qmail/filter.html
>>
>> Neat! I installed them as instructed, but 'checkattach' gives 'file not
>> found'. The other two seem to be ok.
>>
>> KS
>>
>> KARICO Business Services
>> Toronto, ON Canada
>> http://www.ksbase.com
>>
>> ... Beauty is skin deep; ugly goes right to the bone.
>>
>>
>
>
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
| fff hh http://www.fehcom.de Dr. Erwin Hoffmann |
| ff hh |
| ff eee hhhh ccc ooo mm mm mm Wiener Weg 8 |
| fff ee ee hh hh cc oo oo mmm mm mm 50858 Koeln |
| ff ee eee hh hh cc oo oo mm mm mm |
| ff eee hh hh cc oo oo mm mm mm Tel 0221 484 4923 |
| ff eeee hh hh ccc ooo mm mm mm Fax 0221 484 4924 |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
Friday March 09 2001 13:30, Erwin Hoffmann wrote to Chrisanthy Carlane:
EH> Take care that you deleted any potential control characters in the
EH> last line.
How about posting the scripts compressed on the site? That way funny
browsers won't destroy them. :)
KS
I seem to be missing 'toupper' on a RH 7.0 system! Where would I get
it?
KS
... CLEARASOL - Effective sunspot remover.
At 10:21 PM 3/9/01, Kari Suomela wrote:
>Friday March 09 2001 13:30, Erwin Hoffmann wrote to Chrisanthy
>Carlane:
>
> EH> Take care that you deleted any potential control characters in
> the
> EH> last line.
>
>How about posting the scripts compressed on the site? That way funny
>browsers won't destroy them. :)
Why not just download it in a way that doesn't catch the characters?
lynx --dump http://www.fehcom.de/qmail/checkattach >>checkattach
or, use DJB's previously mentioned utility.
Todd
Friday March 09 2001 23:42, Todd Finney wrote to All:
TF> lynx --dump http://www.fehcom.de/qmail/checkattach >>checkattach
This worked!
Thx!
KS
... A feature is a bug with seniority.
The thing is, that mails are stuck in the queue and I want to make them go
...
I've tried kill -ALRM qmail-send without succes :((
And now, I'm still stuck and I become crazy #:{{
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Charles Cazabon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Envoyé : vendredi 2 mars 2001 16:38
À : Qmail
Objet : Re: Qmail Queue is out of control ....
Frédéric Beléteau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I seems as if I have a problem with my qmail queue. A lots of mails are
> stuck in it and I do not know how to send them.
Having messages in the queue isn't a problem -- that's what a queue is for.
Why do you think it's a problem? It's probably just mail to servers which
are
slow or down or poorly connected.
Show us the log entries which make you think that the messages in your
queue are a problem.
Charles
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Frédéric Beléteau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The thing is, that mails are stuck in the queue and I want to make them go
> ...
> I've tried kill -ALRM qmail-send without succes :((
> And now, I'm still stuck and I become crazy #:{{
If they're "stuck" in the queue, there's a reason for it. That reason will
be clearly indicated in the qmail logs. Post a section of the qmail log
detailing why one of these messages is not being succesfully delivered.
Chances are there's nothing you can do about it, as its probably just a
non-responsive server.
Why does having mail sit in your queue bother you, anyway? It's a fact of
life for internet mail. Get used to it.
Charles
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My log file looks like this :
984126108.972553 warning: trouble opening remote/19/66328; will try again
later
Right now, I have 12536 lines in it !!
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Charles Cazabon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Envoyé : vendredi 9 mars 2001 15:19
À : Qmail
Objet : Re: Qmail Queue is out of control ....
Frédéric Beléteau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The thing is, that mails are stuck in the queue and I want to make them go
> ...
> I've tried kill -ALRM qmail-send without succes :((
> And now, I'm still stuck and I become crazy #:{{
If they're "stuck" in the queue, there's a reason for it. That reason will
be clearly indicated in the qmail logs. Post a section of the qmail log
detailing why one of these messages is not being succesfully delivered.
Chances are there's nothing you can do about it, as its probably just a
non-responsive server.
Why does having mail sit in your queue bother you, anyway? It's a fact of
life for internet mail. Get used to it.
Charles
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Frédéric Beléteau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My log file looks like this :
> 984126108.972553 warning: trouble opening remote/19/66328; will try again
> later
Ah, this is different -- this isn't just messages sitting in the queue, this
is queue corruption. Did you try deleting files out of /var/qmail/queue
manually?
Solution: download queue-fix from qmail.org and compile it. Stop qmail.
Run queue-fix with appropriate arguments. Make sure it reports all errors
are fixed. Restart qmail. And never modify the queue while qmail is
running, ever.
Charles
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I've just tried to fix je queu with queue-fix and It made nothing more :((
Is their another solution ?
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Charles Cazabon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Envoyé : vendredi 9 mars 2001 15:35
À : Qmail
Objet : Re: Qmail Queue is out of control ....
Frédéric Beléteau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My log file looks like this :
> 984126108.972553 warning: trouble opening remote/19/66328; will try again
> later
Ah, this is different -- this isn't just messages sitting in the queue, this
is queue corruption. Did you try deleting files out of /var/qmail/queue
manually?
Solution: download queue-fix from qmail.org and compile it. Stop qmail.
Run queue-fix with appropriate arguments. Make sure it reports all errors
are fixed. Restart qmail. And never modify the queue while qmail is
running, ever.
Charles
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Frédéric Beléteau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've just tried to fix je queu with queue-fix and It made nothing more :((
I don't quite follow this. However...
> Is their another solution ?
Yes:
-stop qmail
`rm -rf /var/qmail/queue`
-cd into the qmail source directory
`make setup check`
-restart qmail
Charles
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Please note this will destroy the contents of your queue. This message is to
prevent any future messages from this person blaming the list members for
his messages disappearing.
Sean
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Cazabon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Qmail" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: Qmail Queue is out of control ....
> Frédéric Beléteau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've just tried to fix je queu with queue-fix and It made nothing more
:((
>
> I don't quite follow this. However...
>
> > Is their another solution ?
>
> Yes:
> -stop qmail
> `rm -rf /var/qmail/queue`
> -cd into the qmail source directory
> `make setup check`
> -restart qmail
>
> Charles
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>
The Afif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have problem with my qmail, I have been intall qmail and good
> work, when I try to send email to local (localhost and virtual
> domain) its goods work, but when I try to send email to another host
> look like to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I have message
> "Message has not been sent, server reply - sorry, that domain isn't
> in my list of allowed rcpthost(#5.7.1)"
Read the FAQ about "selective relaying".
Charles
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I'm not sure if someone else has answered this yet, but...
Make sure that all possible names for localhost are in
/var/qmail/control/rcpthosts file.
Here is mine:
__START__
tombstone.wra.com
whiterunkle.com
wra.com
mail.wra.com
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On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, The Afif wrote:
> Hello Miliser,
>
> I have problem with my qmail, I have been intall qmail and good
> work, when I try to send email to local (localhost and virtual
> domain) its goods work, but when I try to send email to another host
> I have message
> "Message has not been sent, server reply - sorry, that domain isn't
> in my list of allowed rcpthost(#5.7.1)"
> any one could help me pls..
>
>
> Best regards,
> The Afif
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
José Carreiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> my request is quite simple :)
> is there any way to edit/modify the mailer-daemon error return messages ??
>
> i'm talking about things like following :
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> I tried to deliver a bounce message to this address, but the bounce bounced!
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> [IP addr] does not like recipient.
> Remote host said: 550 User unknown
> Giving up on [IP addr].
This is Dan's QSBMF format; don't change it. See
http://cr.yp.to/proto/qsbmf.txt for details. MUAs could conceivably rely
on this specific format.
Charles
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ok, thx for your info ....
but , there's no way to translate those messages and keeping the syntax
untouched ?
or only english text is allowed ? (Hi, this is the ...)
i need them in french :)
thx anyway
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Cazabon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: mailer-daemon: editing error messages ?
> José Carreiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > my request is quite simple :)
> > is there any way to edit/modify the mailer-daemon error return messages
??
> >
> > i'm talking about things like following :
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
> > I tried to deliver a bounce message to this address, but the bounce
bounced!
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > [IP addr] does not like recipient.
> > Remote host said: 550 User unknown
> > Giving up on [IP addr].
>
> This is Dan's QSBMF format; don't change it. See
> http://cr.yp.to/proto/qsbmf.txt for details. MUAs could conceivably rely
> on this specific format.
>
> Charles
> --
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> Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/
> Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
José Carreiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This is Dan's QSBMF format; don't change it. See
> > http://cr.yp.to/proto/qsbmf.txt for details. MUAs could conceivably rely
> > on this specific format.
> but , there's no way to translate those messages and keeping the syntax
> untouched ? or only english text is allowed ? (Hi, this is the ...) i need
> them in french :)
You can add to them, providing you don't add additional paragraphs (i.e.,
no extra blank lines). Change it so that it sends out the message like
this:
Hi. This is the qmail-send program at silverton.berkeley.edu.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the
following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up.
Sorry it didn't work out.
=
Bonjour. [rest of message in French]
The line with just "=" in it keeps the French message from being seen by
QSBMF parsers as a separate paragraph. You can use a different separator,
but it cannot start with a "-".
Charles
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I have a client who does a lot of business with a company that's using
an MS Exchange server. Their server tends to crash when my client
"hammers" them with E-mails. Is there any way to set the maximum remote
concurrency on a per-host basis, or a patch to allow this?
echo "2" > MAXREMOTE/mx.blah.com
echo "500" > MAXREMOTE/mx.cr.yp.to
??
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Michael T. Babcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a client who does a lot of business with a company that's using
> an MS Exchange server. Their server tends to crash when my client
> "hammers" them with E-mails. Is there any way to set the maximum remote
> concurrency on a per-host basis, or a patch to allow this?
>
> echo "2" > MAXREMOTE/mx.blah.com
> echo "500" > MAXREMOTE/mx.cr.yp.to
I believe someone did write a per-domain remote concurrency patch. However
(like most problems), the modularity of qmail makes it possible without
patching. The typical solution to this, if you can't get the remote admin
to fix their problems, is to make the domain into a virtual domain,
deliver all mail for it into a Maildir, then run maildir2smtp (from Dan's
serialmail package) on it do deliver the mail over a single SMTP connection.
I'm sure this is in one of the FAQs.
Charles
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For the last several days, I have posted questions on POP3 not working. I
have received several replies and I have gained a lots of knowledge. But the
problem is still there and now I have decided to GIVE UP. I have
re-formatted the disk and I start all over. So folks you know where I will
be during the coming weekend.
Previously I had "qmail" working, so realize, that there is something which
I did wrong. But after spending three days non-stop to figure out why POP3
in "qmail" was not working, I AM BEAT. So I am starting from scratch. I
would like you help in advising me if I am installing the software in
correct sequence. THIS IS A CLASS PROJECT.
I am installing the following software in the order it is listed below:
1. RH 6.2
2. Remove Apache, PHP & Sendmail
3. daemontools-0.70
4. ucspi-tcp-0.88
5. djbdns-1.05
Note: DNS must work fore next item is installed
6. checkpassword-0.90
7. qmail-1.03 (dns error manually updated in dns.c file)
Follow instructions as outlined in "qmail-HOWTO"
http://www.flunder.net/qmail/qmail-howto.html
Note: Qmail must work before going forward
8. RH Patches from RH web site
9. Apache _1.3.12, mySQL-3.22.32, PHP-4.0.2, openssl-0.9.5a,
mod_ssl-2.6.6
I followed installation outline in
http://www.devshed.com/server_side/PHP/SoothinglySeamless/page1.html to
install these packages
Please tell me if this sequence is the right one. Also is there any patches
I am missing. I noticed that several people have discussed several patches
to Qmail!
Thanks for everybody's help. All of you folks are very helpful.
Kirti
Kirti S. Bajwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For the last several days, I have posted questions on POP3 not working. I
> have received several replies and I have gained a lots of knowledge. But the
> problem is still there and now I have decided to GIVE UP. I have
> re-formatted the disk and I start all over. So folks you know where I will
> be during the coming weekend.
That's too bad; it's not necessary.
> I am installing the following software in the order it is listed below:
There's many different ways to go about installing and configuring qmail;
some are referenced at www.qmail.org.
> Please tell me if this sequence is the right one.
There's nothing wrong with it; it's not how I do it, but it will work.
> Also is there any patches I am missing. I noticed that several people have
> discussed several patches to Qmail!
99% of people don't need any of the patches. qmail works just fine without
them unless you have very specific requirements.
Charles
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At 09:42 AM 3/9/2001, Kirti S. Bajwa wrote:
>For the last several days, I have posted questions on POP3 not working. I
>have received several replies and I have gained a lots of knowledge. But the
>problem is still there and now I have decided to GIVE UP. I have
>re-formatted the disk and I start all over. So folks you know where I will
>be during the coming weekend.
your mother was starting to worry - i just call and told her where you
were going to be....
>Previously I had "qmail" working, so realize, that there is something which
>I did wrong. But after spending three days non-stop to figure out why POP3
>in "qmail" was not working, I AM BEAT. So I am starting from scratch. I
>would like you help in advising me if I am installing the software in
>correct sequence. THIS IS A CLASS PROJECT.
>
>I am installing the following software in the order it is listed below:
well...why start with redhat? its buggy as hell and in general a poor
excuse for a linux distro...try something like debian....or if your open to
new os's try obsd. i'm telling you - dump redhat and your life will be
easier...the sun will shine, the birds will sing and most of all your
machine will run correctly. :-) no really tho.....if your just starting
our redhat is fine IMHO..however if your putting this into production i'd
use something else.
> 1. RH 6.2
1. Install a OS that isn't a corprate money maker and install one
that is supported by the community, or install one that is
ultrasecure.....(when i say untra secure i mean one that comes locked down
- no services running - you have to enable everything see www.openbsd.org
for more information)
> 2. Remove Apache, PHP & Sendmail
2. see above step (1)
> 3. daemontools-0.70
> 4. ucspi-tcp-0.88
> 5. djbdns-1.05
> Note: DNS must work fore next item is installed
will you be running name service? thats a whole 'nother list and
about 1 more week of pulling your hair out.
> 6. checkpassword-0.90
> 7. qmail-1.03 (dns error manually updated in dns.c file)
> Follow instructions as outlined in "qmail-HOWTO"
>http://www.flunder.net/qmail/qmail-howto.html
7. READ LIGEWITHQMAIL @ www.lifewithqmail.org
> Note: Qmail must work before going forward
> 8. RH Patches from RH web site
8. Search securityfocus.com for latest exploits for your OS
> 9. Apache _1.3.12, mySQL-3.22.32, PHP-4.0.2, openssl-0.9.5a,
>mod_ssl-2.6.6
> I followed installation outline in
>http://www.devshed.com/server_side/PHP/SoothinglySeamless/page1.html to
>install these packages
you forgot to read life with qmail!!!!!!! read it it's everything that you
need to know...its a walkthrough and
everything! www.lifewithqmail.org! READ IT! don't even download qmail
until you've read it.
>Please tell me if this sequence is the right one. Also is there any patches
>I am missing. I noticed that several people have discussed several patches
>to Qmail!
yeppers - you forgot to read life with qmail. :-)
>Thanks for everybody's help. All of you folks are very helpful.
thats why were here :-)
>Kirti
Thanks. Your response is to the point.
Kirt
-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Cazabon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 10:02 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: OK I give up!!!
Kirti S. Bajwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For the last several days, I have posted questions on POP3 not working. I
> have received several replies and I have gained a lots of knowledge. But
the
> problem is still there and now I have decided to GIVE UP. I have
> re-formatted the disk and I start all over. So folks you know where I will
> be during the coming weekend.
That's too bad; it's not necessary.
> I am installing the following software in the order it is listed below:
There's many different ways to go about installing and configuring qmail;
some are referenced at www.qmail.org.
> Please tell me if this sequence is the right one.
There's nothing wrong with it; it's not how I do it, but it will work.
> Also is there any patches I am missing. I noticed that several people have
> discussed several patches to Qmail!
99% of people don't need any of the patches. qmail works just fine without
them unless you have very specific requirements.
Charles
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Kurth Bemis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >For the last several days, I have posted questions on POP3 not working.
> your mother was starting to worry - i just call and told her where you
> were going to be....
This list is not the proper place for personal abuse.
> well...why start with redhat? its buggy as hell and in general a poor
> excuse for a linux distro...
This list is also not the proper place for blind OS advocacy. Also, you
do not know what you are talking about; RedHat Linux makes a fine base for
a secure, stable system once properly customized. The same can be said
for any Linux or *BSD distribution.
Followups and flames off-list please.
Charles
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* Kurth Bemis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010309 10:35]:
> At 09:42 AM 3/9/2001, Kirti S. Bajwa wrote:
> > 1. RH 6.2
>
> 1. Install a OS that isn't a corprate money maker and install one
> that is supported by the community, or install one that is
> ultrasecure.....(when i say untra secure i mean one that comes locked down
> - no services running - you have to enable everything see www.openbsd.org
> for more information)
(At the risk of participating in a silly conversation...) If you are unable
to disable services after installation, you need to pack your computer back
up and turn in your admin hat.
While it's nice that OpenBSD ships with no services enabled, this shouldn't
be a selling point, since a good admin would lock down a box after
installation, *regardless* of what it is running. If you don't, you get what
you deserve.
/pg
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Thanks. I thought that the writer was trying to be funny but....
I am glad that people like you take time to respond.
Kirti
-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Cazabon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 10:35 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: OK I give up!!!
Kurth Bemis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >For the last several days, I have posted questions on POP3 not working.
> your mother was starting to worry - i just call and told her where you
> were going to be....
This list is not the proper place for personal abuse.
> well...why start with redhat? its buggy as hell and in general a poor
> excuse for a linux distro...
This list is also not the proper place for blind OS advocacy. Also, you
do not know what you are talking about; RedHat Linux makes a fine base for
a secure, stable system once properly customized. The same can be said
for any Linux or *BSD distribution.
Followups and flames off-list please.
Charles
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On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 09:42:59AM -0500, Kirti S. Bajwa wrote:
> For the last several days, I have posted questions on POP3 not working. I
> have received several replies and I have gained a lots of knowledge. But the
> problem is still there and now I have decided to GIVE UP. I have
> re-formatted the disk and I start all over. So folks you know where I will
> be during the coming weekend.
If you spend more time reading the documentation on the software you are
installing, and less time whining on the list, you'll have much better
results.
--Adam
Hi,
I've been setting up a mail server and I've run into a bit of a strange
problem.
The mail server is for "eeng.may.ie" and it receives mails fine except
those from "may.ie".
If I try and send mails from my machine through Outlook using smtp, it says
it cannot find the domain, yet when I log into the machine the mail server
is on and manual insert mails using "cat mailmessage.txt |
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject" they are sent fine.
Anyone have any pointers on how to fix this?
Karl.
Todd A. Jacobs wrote:
> I've seen a couple of patches on qmail.org relating to this, but they
> either don't list the version they relate to, or are described as
> experimental/unstable.
>
> I'd appreciate some recommendations from anyone who's tried some of these
> patches, including some pointers on which ones work with qmail 1.03, and
> which ones I should stay away from.
Krzysztof Dabrowski's patch and related checkpassword substitute work just
fine with qmail 1.03. That's the one I use.
Mrs. Brisby's patch works, but it doesn't offer encryption (CRAM-MD5)
support, and it has a small problem in that if your checkpassword program
dies, it will allow everybody who attempts authentication to relay. This
patch was actually the foundation for Dabrowski's work.
---Kris Kelley
Hello, using Erwin's script to filter attatchements, how would I
send ahcopy of the email to a NON filtered account before it bounces it???
I've copied the 'workings' of the script below... Thanks!!!
#!/bin/sh
#
printmsg () {
echo " "
echo "Sorry, the attachment you sent is in violation of our
company's policy."
echo "If you have any questions, please direct them to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
echo " "
echo "--- Attachment filetype you sent is $ATTYPE"
}
checktype () {
case $ATTYPE in
CMD | OCX | SHS | CLA | AU | DLL)
printmsg $ATTYPE
exit 100;;
*)
;;
esac
}
ATTACHTYPE=`grep "name=" - | awk 'BEGIN {FS="."}; {print toupper($NF)}' |
cut -c -3`
for ATTYPE in $ATTACHTYPE
do
checktype $ATTYPE
done
exit 0
Thanks!!!
Hi,
At 16:02 9.3.2001 -0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
> Hello, using Erwin's script to filter attatchements, how would I
actually - as mentioned in the script - I AM NOT THE AUTHOR !
>send ahcopy of the email to a NON filtered account before it bounces it???
The E-Mail running thru the script only bounces, if the SENDER has a
comparable Filter running.
You have to change the logic a bit, using standard dot-qmail mechanisms.
Check the qmail man page "qmail-command". It tells you about the exit codes.
cheers.
eh.
>
>
>I've copied the 'workings' of the script below... Thanks!!!
>
>
>
>
>
>#!/bin/sh
>#
>printmsg () {
> echo " "
> echo "Sorry, the attachment you sent is in violation of our
>company's policy."
> echo "If you have any questions, please direct them to
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> echo " "
> echo "--- Attachment filetype you sent is $ATTYPE"
>}
>
>checktype () {
> case $ATTYPE in
> CMD | OCX | SHS | CLA | AU | DLL)
> printmsg $ATTYPE
> exit 100;;
> *)
> ;;
> esac
>}
>
>ATTACHTYPE=`grep "name=" - | awk 'BEGIN {FS="."}; {print toupper($NF)}' |
>cut -c -3`
>for ATTYPE in $ATTACHTYPE
>do
> checktype $ATTYPE
>done
>
>exit 0
>
>
>Thanks!!!
>
>
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
| fff hh http://www.fehcom.de Dr. Erwin Hoffmann |
| ff hh |
| ff eee hhhh ccc ooo mm mm mm Wiener Weg 8 |
| fff ee ee hh hh cc oo oo mmm mm mm 50858 Koeln |
| ff ee eee hh hh cc oo oo mm mm mm |
| ff eee hh hh cc oo oo mm mm mm Tel 0221 484 4923 |
| ff eeee hh hh ccc ooo mm mm mm Fax 0221 484 4924 |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
: You have to change the logic a bit, using standard dot-qmail mechanisms.
: Check the qmail man page "qmail-command". It tells you about the exit
codes.
:
: cheers.
: eh.
:
Okay, I've mis-represented my goals... (and I apologize for
implying that Erwin was the author of the script) My goal is:
mail comes in with 'banned' extension...
/var/qmail/alias/.qmail-default (contents below) sends it through
checkattach
| /var/qmail/bin/checksubj
| /var/qmail/bin/checkattach
| fastforward -p -d /etc/aliases.cdb
| forward cyrus-"$LOCAL"@parview.com
checkattatch rejects it printing the reason...
I would like a line in checkattatch to FIRST send a copy to another address
([EMAIL PROTECTED] or such) BEFORE it rejects it...
Any ideas anyone??? Thanks!!!
Jesse
On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 09:48:22PM +0100, Peter van Dijk wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 12:16:52PM -0800, Don Rose wrote:
> > I am building a server to house several very high volume mailing lists
> > (2-4M users each) and wanted to know which patches were recommended for
> > use with ezmlm and ezmlm-idx, as well as qmail itself.
> >
> > I have read about the big-concurrency patch and that seems relevant, but
> > I'm not sure about the others.
>
> No others are.
I am theorizing: having millions of users means lots of bad addresses.
So now, when ezmlm-warn sends out its gripes, it may mean a few
hundred thousand separate messages in the queue. Is that a load in
the queue not to worry about?
Mate
Actually the lists are only announcement-type lists so users won't be
posting, so the only messages that should be queued are like you said
the bounce probes, and the messages the mods post to it.
I was thinking of setting up 2 or 3 QMQP servers on a LocalDirector to
handle the actual sending of the messages, so the original machine isn't
too busy to recieve new mail.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mate Wierdl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 8:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Recommended patches for high-volume ezmlm server
On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 09:48:22PM +0100, Peter van Dijk wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 12:16:52PM -0800, Don Rose wrote:
> > I am building a server to house several very high volume mailing
lists
> > (2-4M users each) and wanted to know which patches were recommended
for
> > use with ezmlm and ezmlm-idx, as well as qmail itself.
> >
> > I have read about the big-concurrency patch and that seems relevant,
but
> > I'm not sure about the others.
>
> No others are.
I am theorizing: having millions of users means lots of bad addresses.
So now, when ezmlm-warn sends out its gripes, it may mean a few
hundred thousand separate messages in the queue. Is that a load in
the queue not to worry about?
Mate
On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 08:45:23PM +0100, Markus Stumpf wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 12:26:55PM -0600, Mate Wierdl wrote:
> > On the ezmlm list somebody asked if he needed the bigtodo patch if he
> > is to set up 15 lists with 50K subscribers each, and the lists get
> > exactly one message/day. I would have thought, no since my P120 box
> > handles 180K messages a day with no noticable problem. But Russ said
> > 15x50K is hard on a normal qmail queue.
>
> Aehm ... if you use ezmlm you get 15 messages (i.e. files) not 15x50K messages.
> So the big-todo patch ist of no relevance here.
Well, I am thinking about bad or sluggish addresses; a bounce comes
back, and deposited in the queue. Then there are the messages
ezmlm-warn sends out... I doubt they are single messages with lots of
recipients... With no experience here, I believe what you are saying,
that this activity is pretty negligible.
Mate
On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 10:43:28AM -0600, Mate Wierdl wrote:
> Well, I am thinking about bad or sluggish addresses; a bounce comes
> back, and deposited in the queue. Then there are the messages
> ezmlm-warn sends out... I doubt they are single messages with lots of
> recipients... With no experience here, I believe what you are saying,
> that this activity is pretty negligible.
The big gain in using ezmlm here is that you have a pretty much "clean"
userbase. Users that don't have valid email addresses cannot subscribe
because they don't get the confirmation request back. So the only
dropouts are addresses that got deleted which in turn will be
automagically unsubscribed by ezmlm.
I had posted the URL of a picture that shows the delivery of the 95000+
newletter in the past, here it is again:
http://www.lamer.de/maex/creative/software/qmail/deliver-stats2.gif
The delivery starts at about timestamp 300 and the first pass is
finished at around 2950 (scale is seconds).
The next two peaks are retries.
a high percentage of the subscriber base is at yahoo addresses :((
The problem ist that the mail servers are very unresponsive and at
certain times quite a lot of delivery slots are filled up with hanging
delivery attempts which degrades the performance :((
But as this is a dedicated server for that newsletter at the moment
there is no need for optimising at the moment (could be done e.g. with
a second qmail on that same machine that gets all the yahoo mails, so
they're out of the way for list delivery).
\Maex
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Orie wrote:
> I am hoping to set up a Qmail (my favorite) smtp gateway (our mail is
> already routing out one, exchange's sucks) that can somehow allow relaying
> based on "FROM" (Aka from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) or allow the relay based on a
> keyword in the message. Or perhaps someone has a better idea?
Why not use AUTH SMTP patches? If your E-mail clients support
authenticated SMTP (many do), then you don't need to add those clients
to a relay list at all.
See http://www.qmail.org/
Is that I run RH because I know every little step and package to install/un-
for security and whatnot.
I always wonder how much easier would my life be with OpenBSD :)
Let me know when DPT Ultra160 Raid Cards work with *BSD.
Joe
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kurth Bemis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Kirti S. Bajwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <>
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 09.08
Subject: Re: OK I give up!!!
> At 09:42 AM 3/9/2001, Kirti S. Bajwa wrote:
> >For the last several days, I have posted questions on POP3 not working. I
> >have received several replies and I have gained a lots of knowledge. But
the
> >problem is still there and now I have decided to GIVE UP. I have
> >re-formatted the disk and I start all over. So folks you know where I
will
> >be during the coming weekend.
>
> your mother was starting to worry - i just call and told her where you
> were going to be....
>
>
> >Previously I had "qmail" working, so realize, that there is something
which
> >I did wrong. But after spending three days non-stop to figure out why
POP3
> >in "qmail" was not working, I AM BEAT. So I am starting from scratch. I
> >would like you help in advising me if I am installing the software in
> >correct sequence. THIS IS A CLASS PROJECT.
> >
> >I am installing the following software in the order it is listed below:
>
> well...why start with redhat? its buggy as hell and in general a poor
> excuse for a linux distro...try something like debian....or if your open
to
> new os's try obsd. i'm telling you - dump redhat and your life will be
> easier...the sun will shine, the birds will sing and most of all your
> machine will run correctly. :-) no really tho.....if your just starting
> our redhat is fine IMHO..however if your putting this into production i'd
> use something else.
>
> > 1. RH 6.2
>
> 1. Install a OS that isn't a corprate money maker and install one
> that is supported by the community, or install one that is
> ultrasecure.....(when i say untra secure i mean one that comes locked down
> - no services running - you have to enable everything see www.openbsd.org
> for more information)
>
> > 2. Remove Apache, PHP & Sendmail
>
> 2. see above step (1)
>
> > 3. daemontools-0.70
> > 4. ucspi-tcp-0.88
> > 5. djbdns-1.05
> > Note: DNS must work fore next item is installed
>
> will you be running name service? thats a whole 'nother list and
> about 1 more week of pulling your hair out.
>
> > 6. checkpassword-0.90
> > 7. qmail-1.03 (dns error manually updated in dns.c file)
> > Follow instructions as outlined in "qmail-HOWTO"
> >http://www.flunder.net/qmail/qmail-howto.html
>
> 7. READ LIGEWITHQMAIL @ www.lifewithqmail.org
>
> > Note: Qmail must work before going forward
> > 8. RH Patches from RH web site
>
> 8. Search securityfocus.com for latest exploits for your OS
>
> > 9. Apache _1.3.12, mySQL-3.22.32, PHP-4.0.2, openssl-0.9.5a,
> >mod_ssl-2.6.6
> > I followed installation outline in
> >http://www.devshed.com/server_side/PHP/SoothinglySeamless/page1.html to
> >install these packages
>
> you forgot to read life with qmail!!!!!!! read it it's everything that
you
> need to know...its a walkthrough and
> everything! www.lifewithqmail.org! READ IT! don't even download qmail
> until you've read it.
>
> >Please tell me if this sequence is the right one. Also is there any
patches
> >I am missing. I noticed that several people have discussed several
patches
> >to Qmail!
>
> yeppers - you forgot to read life with qmail. :-)
>
>
> >Thanks for everybody's help. All of you folks are very helpful.
>
> thats why were here :-)
>
>
>
> >Kirti
>
>
At 12:07 PM 3/9/2001, Choz Sun wrote:
>Is that I run RH because I know every little step and package to install/un-
>for security and whatnot.
>
>I always wonder how much easier would my life be with OpenBSD :)
read the obsd faq.
>Let me know when DPT Ultra160 Raid Cards work with *BSD.
well - why don't you check the hardware list. I had a adaptec 29160N
running fine under 2.7. Hey if you want to run redhat on production
servers be my guest...i don't care - i'm not in charge of your IT dept.
~kurth
>Joe
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Kurth Bemis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Kirti S. Bajwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <>
>Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 09.08
>Subject: Re: OK I give up!!!
>
>
> > At 09:42 AM 3/9/2001, Kirti S. Bajwa wrote:
> > >For the last several days, I have posted questions on POP3 not working. I
> > >have received several replies and I have gained a lots of knowledge. But
>the
> > >problem is still there and now I have decided to GIVE UP. I have
> > >re-formatted the disk and I start all over. So folks you know where I
>will
> > >be during the coming weekend.
> >
> > your mother was starting to worry - i just call and told her where you
> > were going to be....
> >
> >
> > >Previously I had "qmail" working, so realize, that there is something
>which
> > >I did wrong. But after spending three days non-stop to figure out why
>POP3
> > >in "qmail" was not working, I AM BEAT. So I am starting from scratch. I
> > >would like you help in advising me if I am installing the software in
> > >correct sequence. THIS IS A CLASS PROJECT.
> > >
> > >I am installing the following software in the order it is listed below:
> >
> > well...why start with redhat? its buggy as hell and in general a poor
> > excuse for a linux distro...try something like debian....or if your open
>to
> > new os's try obsd. i'm telling you - dump redhat and your life will be
> > easier...the sun will shine, the birds will sing and most of all your
> > machine will run correctly. :-) no really tho.....if your just starting
> > our redhat is fine IMHO..however if your putting this into production i'd
> > use something else.
> >
> > > 1. RH 6.2
> >
> > 1. Install a OS that isn't a corprate money maker and install one
> > that is supported by the community, or install one that is
> > ultrasecure.....(when i say untra secure i mean one that comes locked down
> > - no services running - you have to enable everything see www.openbsd.org
> > for more information)
> >
> > > 2. Remove Apache, PHP & Sendmail
> >
> > 2. see above step (1)
> >
> > > 3. daemontools-0.70
> > > 4. ucspi-tcp-0.88
> > > 5. djbdns-1.05
> > > Note: DNS must work fore next item is installed
> >
> > will you be running name service? thats a whole 'nother list and
> > about 1 more week of pulling your hair out.
> >
> > > 6. checkpassword-0.90
> > > 7. qmail-1.03 (dns error manually updated in dns.c file)
> > > Follow instructions as outlined in "qmail-HOWTO"
> > >http://www.flunder.net/qmail/qmail-howto.html
> >
> > 7. READ LIGEWITHQMAIL @ www.lifewithqmail.org
> >
> > > Note: Qmail must work before going forward
> > > 8. RH Patches from RH web site
> >
> > 8. Search securityfocus.com for latest exploits for your OS
> >
> > > 9. Apache _1.3.12, mySQL-3.22.32, PHP-4.0.2, openssl-0.9.5a,
> > >mod_ssl-2.6.6
> > > I followed installation outline in
> > >http://www.devshed.com/server_side/PHP/SoothinglySeamless/page1.html to
> > >install these packages
> >
> > you forgot to read life with qmail!!!!!!! read it it's everything that
>you
> > need to know...its a walkthrough and
> > everything! www.lifewithqmail.org! READ IT! don't even download qmail
> > until you've read it.
> >
> > >Please tell me if this sequence is the right one. Also is there any
>patches
> > >I am missing. I noticed that several people have discussed several
>patches
> > >to Qmail!
> >
> > yeppers - you forgot to read life with qmail. :-)
> >
> >
> > >Thanks for everybody's help. All of you folks are very helpful.
> >
> > thats why were here :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > >Kirti
> >
> >
Kurth Bemis
Partner/Senior Network Admin/Engineer USAExpress.net
Owner, Ozone Computer
PGP key Available (http://www.usaexpress.net/kurth/pgp)
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Kurth,
I have several production servers (some of which are running millions of
active POP accounts) on redhat 6.2. Just because your perfered nix is BSD
doesn't mean Redhat is of non-production standards. Just means that you
dislike it because you probly don't understand it or use it. I personally
never use BSD not because I don't understand it, nor because I don't like
it. but because I personally perfer Linux. Just for a reminder this is not
a BSD mailing list!
Sean Truman
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kurth Bemis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Choz Sun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: What is so sad... Re: OK I give up!!!
> At 12:07 PM 3/9/2001, Choz Sun wrote:
>
> >Is that I run RH because I know every little step and package to
install/un-
> >for security and whatnot.
> >
> >I always wonder how much easier would my life be with OpenBSD :)
>
> read the obsd faq.
>
>
> >Let me know when DPT Ultra160 Raid Cards work with *BSD.
>
> well - why don't you check the hardware list. I had a adaptec 29160N
> running fine under 2.7. Hey if you want to run redhat on production
> servers be my guest...i don't care - i'm not in charge of your IT dept.
>
> ~kurth
At 02:02 PM 3/9/2001, Sean C Truman wrote:
after this post i'm a sending all messages regarding this to > /dev/null
the point that i'm trying to convey is that commercial linux (or any nix
for that matter) distros are not as good as other alternatives. Let me
give several reasons why (IMHO);
Where ever there is a buck to be made people start getting greedy and no
longer take pride in their work....EG: Redhat7. It isn't a distro, its a
poor excuse for a waste of plastic. I'm not going to go into the reasons
why (if your interested contact me off list). Redhat (and other companies)
are competing with each other. Sure competition is good, however to
compete they strive to get their product out to the public faster. this
means reduced quality of software. no way around it.....I personally use
Debian 22r2, why because Debian is IMHO the most robust, stable
distro. Debian just works, I install what I want to install and nothing
more, no X no sendmail if i don't want it, it doesn't get installed.
Let me put it another way - What is redhat's business plan? To make money.
What is OpenBSD's (Debian, FreeBSD, etc) business plan? Nothing, they don't
have one. There is no money to be made. This ensures that the OS is
polished, bugs fixed, and is ready for prime time. I personally love how
redhat can package GLP'd software with their "secure server" and sell the
package for $199.00USD. Ohhhhh support thats what you want....if you need
telephone support you probably should be looking over some how-to's or some
sort of documentation before installing linux. The newbies who need
telephone support are usually the ones who come to lug meetings saying
things like "Linux sucks, It totally screwed up my whole system" or "I
tried to start the installation from explorer but it didn't work."
well - i'll leave you to make your own decision...if you wish to discuss
the matter further - contact me of list
~kurth
>Kurth,
>
> I have several production servers (some of which are running millions of
>active POP accounts) on redhat 6.2. Just because your perfered nix is BSD
>doesn't mean Redhat is of non-production standards. Just means that you
>dislike it because you probly don't understand it or use it. I personally
>never use BSD not because I don't understand it, nor because I don't like
>it. but because I personally perfer Linux. Just for a reminder this is not
>a BSD mailing list!
>
>Sean Truman
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Kurth Bemis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Choz Sun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 11:33 AM
>Subject: Re: What is so sad... Re: OK I give up!!!
>
>
> > At 12:07 PM 3/9/2001, Choz Sun wrote:
> >
> > >Is that I run RH because I know every little step and package to
>install/un-
> > >for security and whatnot.
> > >
> > >I always wonder how much easier would my life be with OpenBSD :)
> >
> > read the obsd faq.
> >
> >
> > >Let me know when DPT Ultra160 Raid Cards work with *BSD.
> >
> > well - why don't you check the hardware list. I had a adaptec 29160N
> > running fine under 2.7. Hey if you want to run redhat on production
> > servers be my guest...i don't care - i'm not in charge of your IT dept.
> >
> > ~kurth
Kurth Bemis
Partner/Senior Network Admin/Engineer USAExpress.net
Owner, Ozone Computer
PGP key Available (http://www.usaexpress.net/kurth/pgp)
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From: "Kurth Bemis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> At 02:02 PM 3/9/2001, Sean C Truman wrote:
>
> after this post i'm a sending all messages regarding this to > /dev/null
>
> the point that i'm trying to convey is that commercial linux (or any nix
> for that matter) distros are not as good as other alternatives. Let me
> give several reasons why (IMHO);
>
Who uses a distro straight out of the box for production use? I dont! Do
you?
> Where ever there is a buck to be made people start getting greedy and no
> longer take pride in their work....EG: Redhat7. It isn't a distro, its a
> poor excuse for a waste of plastic. I'm not going to go into the reasons
> why (if your interested contact me off list). Redhat (and other
companies)
> are competing with each other. Sure competition is good, however to
> compete they strive to get their product out to the public faster. this
> means reduced quality of software. no way around it.....I personally use
> Debian 22r2, why because Debian is IMHO the most robust, stable
> distro. Debian just works, I install what I want to install and nothing
> more, no X no sendmail if i don't want it, it doesn't get installed.
>
Guess you haven't installed Redhat very much. They offer what is called a
expert mode
that lets you choose the packages you wish to install.
> Let me put it another way - What is redhat's business plan? To make
money.
> What is OpenBSD's (Debian, FreeBSD, etc) business plan? Nothing, they
don't
> have one. There is no money to be made. This ensures that the OS is
> polished, bugs fixed, and is ready for prime time. I personally love how
> redhat can package GLP'd software with their "secure server" and sell the
> package for $199.00USD. Ohhhhh support thats what you want....if you need
> telephone support you probably should be looking over some how-to's or
some
> sort of documentation before installing linux. The newbies who need
> telephone support are usually the ones who come to lug meetings saying
> things like "Linux sucks, It totally screwed up my whole system" or "I
> tried to start the installation from explorer but it didn't work."
>
I can download Redhat for free and so can you. They sell support for the
product so they
can have funding to continue the development. Just as OpenBSD sells t-shirts
and CD's to help fund the project.
only difference is that OpenBSD hasn't started selling support yet.
> well - i'll leave you to make your own decision...if you wish to discuss
> the matter further - contact me of list
>
> ~kurth
>
Sean Truman
Is there anyway to have CHECKATTATCH delete the attatchment before rejecting
it???
... the reason is, I've noticed serveral times that the message with
banned attatchement is sent from one our employees to another of our
employees, it is rejected (good) but then sent back to the sender (which of
course is being 'filtered too) which bounces and eventually ends up
bit-bucketed...
If someone would give me a way to send a copy of the mail to another
(un-filtered) account like I've asked before this wouldn't be nessicary...
BUT, if it would strip the attatchment, then at least the sender would know
they've send something bad, and that it was rejected...
Thanks!!!
BELOW IS CHECKATTATCH
______________________
#!/bin/sh
#
printmsg () {
echo " "
echo "Sorry, the attachment you sent is in violation of our
company's policy."
echo "If you have any questions, please direct them to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
echo " "
echo "--- Attachment filetype you sent is $ATTYPE"
}
#
checktype () {
case $ATTYPE in
VBS | VBE | JSE | CSS | WSH | SCT | HTA | VXD | EXE | DOT |
HLP | PAK | PPS | COM | CMD | OCX | SHS | CLA | AU | DLL)
printmsg $ATTYPE
exit 100;;
*)
;;
esac
}
ATTACHTYPE=`grep "name=" - | awk 'BEGIN {FS="."}; {print toupper($NF)}' |
cut -c -3`
for ATTYPE in $ATTACHTYPE
do
checktype $ATTYPE
done
exit 0
Hey there guys,
Below is a copy of my log script (under svc). The first file listed
simply defines a variable and (from what I understand) operates as a pointer
to the log-functions script.
I was hoping that someone could break this down for me so I could reduce the
information my log file is recording about pop3 connections. I try to run a
really tight ship over here, and I am finding all this extra information to
be quite a waste of space. The run-functions script is completely foreign
to me.. And I am not understanding the operators and how the output works
out from the qmail-service to the tcpserver. After both scripts is an
excerpt out of my maillog log file, and below that is what I would hope I
could have the output look like:
[user1@www /]# less /service/pop3d/log/run
#!/bin/sh
service=pop-3
. /usr/share/qmail/log-functions
[user1@www /]# less /usr/share/qmail/log-functions
#
# log-functions This file contains functions common to the qmail log
scripts
#
. /usr/share/qmail/run-functions
# Read the default logger command, making sure that any pipe symbols are
# separated, and substituting '{}' with the service name.
readdefault logger logger splogger
logger=`echo $logger | \
sed -e 's/|/ | /' -e '/{}/!s/$/ '$service/ -e 's/{}/'$service/g`
cd /var/log
exec setuidgid qmaillog $logger
EXERPT FROM MAILLOG
Mar 4 14:30:16 www pop-3: 983745016.901284 tcpserver: status: 1/40
Mar 4 14:30:16 www pop-3: 983745016.904990 tcpserver: pid 6733 from
24.76.51.175
Mar 4 14:30:16 www pop-3: 983745016.927190 tcpserver: ok 6733
:64.69.78.221:110 h24-76-51-175.vf.shawcable.net:24.76.51.175::50666
Mar 4 14:30:18 www pop-3: 983745018.588849 tcpserver: end 6733 status 256
Mar 4 14:30:18 www pop-3: 983745018.591199 tcpserver: status: 0/40
THIS IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE THE EXECRPT FOR LOOK LIKE:
Mar 4 14:40:18 www pop-3: 983745618.531077 tcpserver: ok 13160
:64.69.78.221:110 h24-76-51-175.vf.shawcable.net:24.76.51.175::50677
Basically, I just want one line of information, because this is the ONLY
service I have that is not recording information in this log, it would also
be good for me to be able to remove information from after the date to just
after tcpserver:. In effect making it look like this:
Mar 4 14:40:18 ok 13160 :64.69.78.221:110
h24-76-51-175.vf.shawcable.net:24.76.51.175::50677
The only other thing that is not necessary is showing the server IP:PORT
(64.69.78.221:110).. But that is the least of my worries.
Any ideas?
Cheers,
Sean
Just wanted to send a word of thanks to the list. Thanks to the input I
received from members of the list I have convinced the software vendor to
include this fix in their next major release (currently in round one beta).
An organized description of the problems and solution would make a great
addition to the FAQ (or maybe a link from
http://cr.yp.to/docs/smtplf.html?), and I think would assist other like me
to convince their software manufacturers to make such changes. My biggest
hurdle was convincing the company specifically how they were actually
violating the RFCs.
Thanks again!
-Cameron
--------------------
Cameron Childress
elliptIQ Inc.
p.770.460.7277.232
f.770.460.0963
Further to my original message, I believe that this very lucid description
(received offlist) of the RFC violation is what swung the vendor's pendulum
in favor of modifying the software.
---<Credit to Frank Cringle>---
For practical purposes it violates the combination of RFC821 and
RFC822.
821 says:
text line
The maximum total length of a text line including the
<CRLF> is 1000 characters (but not counting the leading
dot duplicated for transparency).
822 explicitly allows bare linefeeds but also makes it clear that
lines are terminated by CRLF, thus implying that bare linefeeds are
just strange characters embedded inside lines and are not themselves
terminators. Under this interpretation though, if you have more than
1000 characters (for instance 11 "lines" of 100 characters each, with
bare LF between them) you are violating RFC821. Generate a message
like that with these peoples software, trace it going over the wire
with tcpdump and point out the problem to them.
---</credit>---
Again, seeing this text on the FAQ or Bare LF error page could be of great
benefit to other people in my situation...
Thanks!
--------------------
Cameron Childress
elliptIQ Inc.
p.770.460.7277.232
f.770.460.0963
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 1:32 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Bare linefeeds not accepted by Qmail? - Vendor agrees
>
>
> Just wanted to send a word of thanks to the list. Thanks to the input I
> received from members of the list I have convinced the software vendor to
> include this fix in their next major release (currently in round
> one beta).
>
> An organized description of the problems and solution would make a great
> addition to the FAQ (or maybe a link from
> http://cr.yp.to/docs/smtplf.html?), and I think would assist other like me
> to convince their software manufacturers to make such changes. My biggest
> hurdle was convincing the company specifically how they were actually
> violating the RFCs.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> -Cameron
>
> --------------------
> Cameron Childress
> elliptIQ Inc.
> p.770.460.7277.232
> f.770.460.0963
I _think_ this is hotmails way of telling you the message size exceeds the
mailbox size.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 1:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Error 554 from hotmail
Here's a sample of the 554 error
delivery 7295: failure:
64.4.49.7_failed_after_I_sent_the_message./Remote_host_said:_554_Transaction
_failed/
Rgds
Ronnie
-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Bradford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 1:59 PM
To: Thum Chee Weng, Ronnie
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Error 554 from hotmail
Thus said [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, 09 Mar 2001 13:55:22 +0800:
> I've got 800+ error 554 form hotmail out of 1000+ email sent to valid
hotmail.com accounts.
> Can anyone explain what's the problem - Hotmail or qmail or network
problem?
Why don't you post a copy of one of the errors?
Andy
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"Tim Hunter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I _think_ this is hotmails way of telling you the message size exceeds the
> mailbox size.
no. When it's a quota/mailbox size issue they specifically say that in
the error.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Here's a sample of the 554 error
>
> delivery 7295: failure:
> 64.4.49.7_failed_after_I_sent_the_message./Remote_host_said:_554_Transaction
> _failed/
it happens, apparently randomly, with hotmail. A list I run regularly
gets these: the hotmail accounts all exist, the messages are small,
and the next message will get through just fine.
I put it down to them being broken,
James.
Hello everyone,
can you tell me if there is anything written for maintenance of a news
server. That is with automatic subscription/unsubscription and maybe
even web interface.
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Best regards,
Peter
Peter Mitev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> can you tell me if there is anything written for maintenance of a news
> server.
"News server" to me would imply an NNTP server -- completely offtopic here.
> That is with automatic subscription/unsubscription and maybe even web
> interface.
However, this sounds like what you want is a mailing list server. If
so, ezmlm or ezmlm-idx is what you want. See www.qmail.org and www.ezmlm.org
for details. They have their own mailing lists as well.
Charles
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Quoting Peter Mitev ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> can you tell me if there is anything written for maintenance of a news
> server. That is with automatic subscription/unsubscription and maybe
> even web interface.
Hey, you should check out news.software.nntp, or maybe Google.
This is a list for qmail, the MTA, which hasn't a thing to do
with Usenet.
Aaron
Hello again...
Here is the traffic man again ;-)
This is what my maillog said. My maillog is in: /var/log/maillog
Some told me that the logs are in different directories (e.g. in
/var/qmail/current ...)
I even guess that this log does not show up when I user fetches his mail.
--------------------- MY LOG ----------------------
Mar 9 19:35:20 wintercom qmail: 984162920.735515 starting delivery 265: msg
64405 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mar 9 19:35:20 wintercom qmail: 984162920.738982 status: local 2/10 remote
0/20
Mar 9 19:35:20 wintercom qmail: 984162920.746348 delivery 264: success:
did_0+1+0/qp_4277/
Mar 9 19:35:20 wintercom qmail: 984162920.750861 status: local 1/10 remote
0/20
Mar 9 19:35:20 wintercom qmail: 984162920.760079 end msg 64403
Mar 9 19:35:20 wintercom qmail: 984162920.764055 delivery 265: success:
did_1+0+0/
Mar 9 19:35:20 wintercom qmail: 984162920.767901 status: local 0/10 remote
0/20
Mar 9 19:35:20 wintercom qmail: 984162920.771626 end msg 64405
Mar 9 19:35:22 wintercom /usr/local/lib/popper[4282]: (v3.0.2) POP login by
user "XXXXXXX" at (XXXXXXXXX.XXXX.XX) 123.456.789.101
Mar 9 19:35:23 wintercom /usr/local/lib/popper[4284]: (v3.0.2) POP login by
user "XXXXXXXX" at (XXXXXXXXX.XXXX.XX) 123.456.789.101
Mar 9 19:35:24 wintercom /usr/local/lib/popper[4287]: (v3.0.2) POP login by
user "XXXXXXXX" at (XXXXXXXXX.XXXX.XX) 123.456.789.101
-------------------- END: MY LOG -------------------
Perhaps someone may tell me a way to make my qmail tell me more so that I
can write a script on my own which tells me how much traffic was done.
Should I use the matchup-Outputs of qmailanalog?
Or does perhaps anyone else know a tool which helps me ( or a good resource
for qmailanalog?)
Thanks in advance
Stephan Winter
Stephan,
Thanks for letting me know what solutions you may have found to your
logging problem, as you know I am trying to find out the same thing.
The way my qmail installation is set-up. pop3d and qmail-smtpd simply
log connection info and where objects went to at what times.
The only logfile I have that actually logs bytes in/out is the
qmail-send log. (mine is located in /var/log/qmail/qmail-send/).
The info you are showing below, (from what I know) shows only the message ID
and no sizes.. Perhaps there were a few lines up above the ones you show.
Perhaps running from new msg -> end msg? Below is a slightly modified
(missing identifiable information to protect users) excerpt from my logfile
showing one full delivery:
@400000003aa42f4617a8732c info msg 299012: bytes 1382 from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
qp xxxxx uid xxx
@400000003aa42f462322220c starting delivery 518: msg 299012 to local
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
@400000003aa42f46236656fc status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
@400000003aa42f4623674d14 starting delivery 519: msg 299012 to remote
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
@400000003aa42f462367e56c status: local 1/10 remote 1/20
@400000003aa42f462b64f0ac delivery 518: success: did_0+0+0/
@400000003aa42f462d5d5d7c status: local 0/10 remote 1/20
@400000003aa42f4722335924 delivery 519: success:
123.123.123.123_accepted_message./Remote_host_said:_250_OK/
@400000003aa42f47241bcc1c status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
@400000003aa42f472430f9fc end msg 299012
Qmaillist wrote:
> Hello again...
>
> Here is the traffic man again ;-)
>
> This is what my maillog said. My maillog is in: /var/log/maillog
>
> Some told me that the logs are in different directories (e.g. in
> /var/qmail/current ...)
>
> I even guess that this log does not show up when I user fetches his mail.
>
> --------------------- MY LOG ----------------------
>
> Mar 9 19:35:20 wintercom qmail: 984162920.735515 starting delivery 265: msg
> 64405 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Mar 9 19:35:20 wintercom qmail: 984162920.738982 status: local 2/10 remote
> 0/20
> Mar 9 19:35:20 wintercom qmail: 984162920.746348 delivery 264: success:
> did_0+1+0/qp_4277/
> Mar 9 19:35:20 wintercom qmail: 984162920.750861 status: local 1/10 remote
> 0/20
> Mar 9 19:35:20 wintercom qmail: 984162920.760079 end msg 64403
> Mar 9 19:35:20 wintercom qmail: 984162920.764055 delivery 265: success:
> did_1+0+0/
> Mar 9 19:35:20 wintercom qmail: 984162920.767901 status: local 0/10 remote
> 0/20
> Mar 9 19:35:20 wintercom qmail: 984162920.771626 end msg 64405
> Mar 9 19:35:22 wintercom /usr/local/lib/popper[4282]: (v3.0.2) POP login by
> user "XXXXXXX" at (XXXXXXXXX.XXXX.XX) 123.456.789.101
> Mar 9 19:35:23 wintercom /usr/local/lib/popper[4284]: (v3.0.2) POP login by
> user "XXXXXXXX" at (XXXXXXXXX.XXXX.XX) 123.456.789.101
> Mar 9 19:35:24 wintercom /usr/local/lib/popper[4287]: (v3.0.2) POP login by
> user "XXXXXXXX" at (XXXXXXXXX.XXXX.XX) 123.456.789.101
>
> -------------------- END: MY LOG -------------------
>
> Perhaps someone may tell me a way to make my qmail tell me more so that I
> can write a script on my own which tells me how much traffic was done.
>
> Should I use the matchup-Outputs of qmailanalog?
>
> Or does perhaps anyone else know a tool which helps me ( or a good resource
> for qmailanalog?)
>
> Thanks in advance
> Stephan Winter
>
Hello.
Which traffic does qmail print out?
I guess that it just logs the traffic of emails that are sent out by the
server and of emails that are received by the server.
But is it also possible to let qmail log when a user collects his email?
Thanks in advance
Stephan Winter
PS: Anyone who uses ISoQLOG, please mail me. Anyone who has a tool which
monitors the traffic of a Vdomain in a month -> please mail me urgently!!
Pierre:
There is a whack of things to try and check listed below, but I would
suggest checking the last comment first. As I believe it to be the most
probably cause of your issues.
Bedel, Pierre wrote:
> #########3 -ERR this user has no $HOME/Maildir
>
> Hi,
>
>> Um, first a few things. After boot-up or a quick -HUP on inetd, do you
> ever
>> see a process called qmail-popup or even perhaps qmail-pop3d running?
>
> I only see a qmail-popup process when launching it by hand.
> I must rectify a mistake I made in my previous mail: if i run qmail-popup by
> hand I don't get the opportunity to telnet into my server, I am instead
> instantly asked to authenticate myself. Also, if I run qmail-popup in the
> background by adding '&' at the end, and then telnet into it I still get the
> error message.
Hrmmmm.. Something is not working correctly from boot-up on the qmail-popup
/ pop3d side. I was worried that perhaps pop3d was starting separate from
pop3d.. It is rare, but I have actually seen it happen.
Ah! I have an idea... Took a little while, but can you paste to the
newsgroup the line you are using to start qmail-popup in the news group
again? Also give us a few lines surrounding it as well. Also, it seems as
though you are using a RedHat based OS. Can you confirm that? Also please
double check in your /etc/services file that ports 110/TCP and 110/UDP are
open (not commented out)
Paste a quick 'ps -aux | grep qmail' to the group as well, I am interested
to see what shows up.. I am not sure I asked, but could you let us know if
you are running svc (daemontools) or any other package like that?
Oh, and two other things can you try and instigate a pop3d session with your
off-server mail program (if it bails again, don't worry about it yet)...
(outlook, eudora .. Whatever), then send us the last few lines of your pop3d
logfile? I think that output in your case will be saved in $logdir/maillog
so just get into your log directory and 'tail -n30 maillog'. I think that
might prove to be an interesting read.
Depending on the results of the above. We should be able to get a better
picture of your situation.
And one more on this topic. I was just reading your first post, and when
you launch the service by hand, you are able to telnet to the port. Does
that also mean that when you launch service by hand you are able to check
mail using your mail client remotely? Because it could be a problem I had
(why I switched to tcpserver. Inet.d refused to launch qmail-popup
correctly. Switching solved that problem: use this link for more info
http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html#pop-imap-servers
>
>> What happens when you send mail to the user? To the account
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]?
>
> I am able to send mail to both my pop3 user and the few system accounts I
> have.
>
K, that is good. Now are you sure those messages are getting stored in the
correct directories? (eg: $HOME/Maildir/) just cd into the directories and
go for a quick check on the contents.
>> It would also help out a lot if you were able to send us the true domain
>> name and perhaps if you could send the output of a qmail-lint:
>
> Warning: users/assign checking not implemented.
And one more thing... Are you using any virtual mailer package like
vpopmail or vmailmrg (I am not sure if there are any others out there but it
still counts)? If so, you need to be sure you are using their password
checker (authentication mechanism), (eg: the checker I use is checkvpw).
Can you double check the existence of your pass checker?
cd /bin
ls -lh | grep checkpoppasswd
Or if you use the 'locate' command at all
locate checkpoppasswd
If that item is not actually there, authentication will fail every time.
If it is not present at the defined location or anywhere else... You can get
one by following the instructions at the above link.
Let me know if that helps,
Sean
Hello.
My logs are saved in var/log/maillog
But they are rotated in a way I do not understand.
Could someone tell me the way they are?
Thanks in advance
On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 08:23:33PM +0100, Qmaillist wrote:
> Hello.
> My logs are saved in var/log/maillog
OK.
>
> But they are rotated in a way I do not understand.
> Could someone tell me the way they are?
No. ;)
You haven't what generates /var/log/maillog, what OS you are running, or
any other information necessary to tell you anything about it.
>
> Thanks in advance
HTH,
--
Greg White
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent
revolution inevitable.
-- John F. Kennedy
man logrotate
or try google.com
this a sysadmin question and nothing to do with qmail
-----Original Message-----
From: Qmaillist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 2:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: logrotation
Hello.
My logs are saved in var/log/maillog
But they are rotated in a way I do not understand.
Could someone tell me the way they are?
Thanks in advance
This I can answer! (and correctly)
Your OS (linux distro?) probably comes with a log rotater. Mine is
managed by /etc/logrotate.conf.
It includes files in /etc/logrotate.d/
The file /etc/logrotate.d/syslog includes the following:
/var/log/maillog {
daily
rotate 14
create 0640 root admin
postrotate
/usr/bin/killall -HUP syslogd
endscript
}
which rotates my maillog.
Note: Don't use syslog for high volume mail sites. It is fine on my
site (about 3000 messages a day), but it still takes an average of 5% of
my CPU time at all times. Check out L.W.Q. and the faq for other options
to use instead of syslog (splogger).
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On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Tim Hunter wrote:
> man logrotate
> or try google.com
>
> this a sysadmin question and nothing to do with qmail
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Qmaillist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 2:24 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: logrotation
>
>
> Hello.
> My logs are saved in var/log/maillog
>
> But they are rotated in a way I do not understand.
> Could someone tell me the way they are?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>
Ok folks I am back.
As some of you know, during the last couple of days, I posted messages after
messages because I could not get POP3 working. I am using "qmail". I
received quite a large number of responses offering suggestion/help.
Finally, yesterday, I posted a message with heading "OK I give up!!!". Well
it brought a flood of responses all but one negative (this individual wrote
that I was WHINING).
Now the good news. I started from scratch, re-formatted the disk and
reinstalled the entire Linux software (8-10 applications). As far as Qmail,
specially, POP3, DAMNED THING WORKED THE FIRST TIME. So what was the problem
when I could not get POP# under qmail working, we will never know.
I am posting this message to let everyone know, that I am thankful for all
your help and encouragement. This mailing list has some of the best helping
people. As for the person, who said that I was WHINING, you need a shrink.
Kirti
Chad Ziccardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> What are the most common cause of deferreds?
In my experience, a) remote hosts being poorly run and maintained, b)
with poor network connections, c) or very busy (which brings you back
to a, really.)
James.
Hello
I have a qmail system running with fastforward (running on Debian). It
seems that fastforward is not using users/assign. Is this true and if
so, is it intentional?
In aliases, I have among others:
# grep me1 /etc/aliases
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:me1
#
However, there is no entry in users/assign or in users/cdb:
# grep me1 /etc/qmail/users/assign
# grep me1 /etc/qmail/users/cdb
But the system is working:
# ls -laF /var/spool/mail/me1
-rw-rw---- 1 me1 mail 1307 Mar 9 17:59
/var/spool/mail/me1
#
I don't understand this, since for local delivery qmail needs to know,
such as
=joe.shmoe:joe:503:78:/home/joe:::
a) What am I missing here?
b) I am looking for a solution where I can forward all emails beginning
with "newsletter" and ending with "@mydomain.be" to
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]". However it seems users/assign does not
work with fastforward so "+newsletter" does not work. Ayy ideas?
Regards
Leander
On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 11:30:15PM +0100, Leander Berwers wrote:
>
> I have a qmail system running with fastforward (running on Debian). It
> seems that fastforward is not using users/assign. Is this true and if
> so, is it intentional?
>
users/assign, users/cdb is optional. if You create user/assign and run
qmail-newu, qmail-lspawn will use it before qmail-local runs fastforward
from alias' qmail-default.
> I don't understand this, since for local delivery qmail needs to know,
> such as
> =joe.shmoe:joe:503:78:/home/joe:::
>
> a) What am I missing here?
>
qmail does not need it, it is optional.
> b) I am looking for a solution where I can forward all emails beginning
> with "newsletter" and ending with "@mydomain.be" to
> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". However it seems users/assign does not
> work with fastforward so "+newsletter" does not work. Ayy ideas?
>
Use ~alias/.qmail-newsletter-default to handle the mails (# man dot-qmail).
or assign the address to a user, in users/assign:
+newsletter-:<user>:... (# man qmail-users),
run qmail-newu and use ~<user>/.qmail-default for handling.
Regards, Gerrit.
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Does anyone have an example of calling pop3d from the supervise startup
script (/etc/init.d/qmail) from LWQ? I'd really like to run it supervised,
if possible.
--
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CodeGnome Consulting, LTD
It's really not difficult, you need to add a few directories LWQ style:
/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-pop3d
/var/qmail/supervise/qmail-pop3d/log
/var/log/qmail/qmail-pop3d
Add the following files
cat /var/qmail/supervise/qmai
l-pop3d/run
#!/bin/sh
PATH=/var/qmail/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/home/vpopmail/bin
export PATH
exec tcpserver -v -H -c5 0 pop-3 qmail-popup mail.cimx.com \
vchkpw qmail-pop3d Maildir 2>&1
cat /var/qmail/supervise/qmai
l-pop3d/log/run
#!/bin/sh
PATH=/var/qmail/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin
export PATH
exec setuidgid qmaill multilog t s200000 /var/log/qmail/pop3d
And make the following changes to your init script
pause)
echo "Pausing qmail-send"
svc -p $supervise_dir/qmail-send
echo "Pausing qmail-smtpd"
svc -p $supervise_dir/qmail-smtpd
echo "Pausing qmail-pop3d"
svc -p $supervise_dir/qmail-pop3d
;;
cont)
echo "Continuing qmail-send"
svc -c $supervise_dir/qmail-send
echo "Continuing qmail-smtpd"
svc -c $supervise_dir/qmail-smtpd
echo "Continuing qmail-pop3d"
svc -c $supervise_dir/qmail-pop3d
;;
restart)
echo "Restarting qmail:"
echo "* Stopping qmail-smtpd."
svc -d $supervise_dir/qmail-smtpd
echo "* Sending qmail-send SIGTERM and restarting."
svc -t $supervise_dir/qmail-send
echo "* Restarting qmail-smtpd."
svc -u $supervise_dir/qmail-smtpd
echo "* Restarting qmail-pop3d."
svc -u $supervise_dir/qmail-pop3d
;;
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd A. Jacobs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 5:59 PM
To: qmail list
Subject: supervised pop3d
Does anyone have an example of calling pop3d from the supervise startup
script (/etc/init.d/qmail) from LWQ? I'd really like to run it supervised,
if possible.
--
Todd A. Jacobs
CodeGnome Consulting, LTD
> Does anyone have an example of calling pop3d from the supervise startup
> script (/etc/init.d/qmail) from LWQ? I'd really like to run it supervised,
> if possible.
There are some older messages in the mailing list archive that would help,
as this subject popped up (no pun intended) less than a month ago.
Basically what I did was create a new directory under /var/qmail/supervise,
called qmail-pop3d. I set up the run and log/run scripts using the
qmail-smtpd scripts as a guide. Once those were set up, I was able to use
the LWQ start-up script with no modification, and the tcpserver in charge of
the POP3 port is supervised along with the rest of the qmail system.
---Kris Kelley
When running pop3d, I get an error saying "no $HOME/Maildir" which may be
caused by the directory permissions of 0700 on both the home directory and
Maildir.
On Red Hat, procmail is the MDA, and is SUID/SGID root. Other than making
pop3d run as root, what are my options? If I chmod the directories, what's
the least privelege that will allow pop3d to run, without allowing users
to clobber or access each other's Maildir files?
--
Todd A. Jacobs
CodeGnome Consulting, LTD
On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 03:06:08PM -0800, Todd A. Jacobs wrote:
> When running pop3d, I get an error saying "no $HOME/Maildir" which may be
> caused by the directory permissions of 0700 on both the home directory and
> Maildir.
>
> On Red Hat, procmail is the MDA, and is SUID/SGID root. Other than making
> pop3d run as root, what are my options? If I chmod the directories, what's
> the least privelege that will allow pop3d to run, without allowing users
> to clobber or access each other's Maildir files?
qmail-pop3d doesn't need to run SUID anything, but qmail-popup and
checkpassword run as root and then checkpassword execs qmail-pop3d as the user
once the user is known.
checkpassword has to run as root, so that it can check passwords and also so
that it can exec qmail-pop3d as a different user. When qmail-pop3d is run by
checkpassword, it runs as the user who owns the Maildir, so the 0700
permissions aren't a problem for it.
Chris
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On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 03:06:08PM -0800, Todd A. Jacobs wrote:
> When running pop3d, I get an error saying "no $HOME/Maildir" which may be
> caused by the directory permissions of 0700 on both the home directory and
> Maildir.
>
> On Red Hat, procmail is the MDA, and is SUID/SGID root. Other than making
> pop3d run as root, what are my options? If I chmod the directories, what's
qmail-pop3d IS supposed to run as root. From LWQ:
tcpserver -v -R 0 pop3 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup FQDN \
/bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir 2>&1 | \
/var/qmail/bin/splogger pop3d &
or... (inetd)
pop3 stream tcp nowait root /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup qmail-popup
hostname.domain /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir
RC
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Quoting Todd A. Jacobs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> When running pop3d, I get an error saying "no $HOME/Maildir" which may be
> caused by the directory permissions of 0700 on both the home directory and
> Maildir.
qmail-pop3d is run as root by tcpserver, which is running as root. No
suid bit is needed. qmail-pop3d switches to the userid of the user
whose mail it is retrieving.
So, you'll need to start believing that message--qmail-pop3d can't
find the user's Maildir.
In the source of qmail-pop3d we see:
void die_nomaildir() { err("this user has no $HOME/Maildir"); die(); }
...
if (!argv[1]) die_nomaildir();
if (chdir(argv[1]) == -1) die_nomaildir();
So, it dies with that same error if it doesn't get its first argument,
the name of the Maildir, or if it can't change to that Maildir.
Your tcpserver's command line may be goofed up. Should look
something like:
exec tcpserver -c60 -R -H mail.coinet.com pop-3 qmail-popup mail.coinet.com \
checkpassword qmail-popbull /home/p/popbull/popbull qmail-pop3d Maildir
Aaron
On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 11:26:58PM +0000, Ricardo Cerqueira wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 03:06:08PM -0800, Todd A. Jacobs wrote:
> > When running pop3d, I get an error saying "no $HOME/Maildir" which may be
> > caused by the directory permissions of 0700 on both the home directory and
> > Maildir.
> >
> > On Red Hat, procmail is the MDA, and is SUID/SGID root. Other than making
> > pop3d run as root, what are my options? If I chmod the directories, what's
>
> qmail-pop3d IS supposed to run as root. From LWQ:
Nope.
> tcpserver -v -R 0 pop3 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup FQDN \
> /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir 2>&1 | \
> /var/qmail/bin/splogger pop3d &
tcpserver runs as root, qmail-popup inherits root, checkpassword
inherits root but changes to the uid/gid of the user that successfully
logged in, pop3d inherits the uid/gid that checkpassword changed to.
Getting back to the very confusing question. What has procmail
setuidness got to do with pop3d?
On the permissions front you forgot to mention the owner of
$HOME/Maildir. Is it owned by the user? It should be.
Finally, if you have procmail delivering to the users $HOME/Maildir
then it does not need to be setuid root.
Regards.
On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 03:33:17PM -0800, Aaron L. Meehan wrote:
> Quoting Todd A. Jacobs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > When running pop3d, I get an error saying "no $HOME/Maildir" which may be
> > caused by the directory permissions of 0700 on both the home directory and
> > Maildir.
>
> qmail-pop3d is run as root by tcpserver, which is running as root. No
> suid bit is needed. qmail-pop3d switches to the userid of the user
> whose mail it is retrieving.
Nope. checkpassword does the switch, qmail-pop3d runs as whatever user
it inherits.
> So, you'll need to start believing that message--qmail-pop3d can't
> find the user's Maildir.
Wise words indeed.
> Your tcpserver's command line may be goofed up. Should look
> something like:
Also check:
1. Does the user have a $HOME/Maildir
2. Does the user have access to this dir (could be owned by root)
Regards.
Quoting Aaron L. Meehan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Quoting Todd A. Jacobs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > When running pop3d, I get an error saying "no $HOME/Maildir" which may be
> > caused by the directory permissions of 0700 on both the home directory and
> > Maildir.
>
> qmail-pop3d is run as root by tcpserver, which is running as root. No
> suid bit is needed. qmail-pop3d switches to the userid of the user
> whose mail it is retrieving.
Which is, oops, a bit off. Mark Delaney said it: the checkpassword
changes uid.
my bad,
Aaron
Greetings,
I setup qmail and it seems to work sometimes but it doesn't work all the
time. What I mean is this morning I sent a mail through one of my forms and
it worked fine. But right now and for the last 8 hours I haven't been able
to get any email's. I check and qmail is running, but I don't know whats
going on. Qmail just seems to not send mail all the time.
I am running a simple script to just test mailing functions, and it doesn't
work at all now. I ran all the diags on qmail and it says that qmail is ok.
I can send a blank message from my server to me but I can't send a message
from the server.
Please help, I have tried 3 different paths:
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject
/usr/sbin/sendmail
/usr/lib/sendmail
Please HELP!
Avery Brooks
Avery,
Take a deep breathe and let us work through it together as a group shall we.
Have you restarted qmail? Since the last time it was working?
Have you recently rebooted your server for some reason?
Have you made "ANY" changes to your firewall?
Have you made "ANY" changes to your system?
(Even changes that you think should NOT do anything to qmail.)
What do the logs in your system say?
Could you please post the relevant portions of your logs for the community
to review?
Have you attempted to send an email to yourself from your own account on the
same server?
Does it arrive?
Have you attempted to send an email TO an OUTSIDE account? Say at Hotmail or
something?
And then have you attempted to send TO your server FROM an outside source?
If you send it FROM an outside source, is the OUTSIDE source account getting
back any strange "Not Deliverable" type messages or anything?
Have you changed your DNS records? More specifically the MX records and the
"A" record for the mail server itself?
You did set create an "A" record for the mail server and an "MX" record too
right?
You state:
> I can send a blank message from my server to me but I can't send a message
> from the server.
Is email coming in and NOT going out?
OR
Is email going out and NOT coming in?
Please clarify.
Are you running any sort of intrusion detection to let you know if anyone
has tried to hack your box?
Is your network connectivity for that box active? Can you ping it from
across the network?
Can you ping it from OUTSIDE your network? Or do you get back a type 3 ICMP
msg?
Is it live? Is the network cable plugged in firmly? Are the lights lighting
up on your network card like they should be?
Those last questions we SERIOUS questions, I wasn't kidding.
And here is a real true story, so you will know WHY I asked them...
I used to work in academia (local college campus) where we had multiple
satellite campuses in various parts of the state where I live, all
interconnected via VPN. (Academia isn't very good pay by the way... But
that's another story....)
They had a problem with their mail system where it would suddenly just
stopped working for a VERY long period of time.
I told them to check the cables, restart the system, check the logs, etc...
etc... etc...
They SWORE they did.
At the end of the day, I checked in to see how they were doing. The server
was still down and they couldn't fix it.
"Its going to require a full reinstall.... blah blah blah blah blah" They
grumbled.
"Oh?" I said. And reached around and plugged in the network cable......
Needless to say, I smiled and went home, knowing that a bad connection had
been the problem the whole time....
I told them to check it.... :)
Sometimes its the simplest things that we over look.
So seriously take a deep breath, and start off with the most SIMPLEST of
things like checking the cables, and work your way into the system from
there. If those are fine, at least you know that you checked them, and that
you can rest in the fact that you are one step closer to finding the
problem.
But if you could post some of your logs, that would certainly help as well.
Jack
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
----- Original Message -----
From: "Avery Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 5:15 PM
Subject: Please help!!!
> Greetings,
>
> I setup qmail and it seems to work sometimes but it doesn't work all the
> time. What I mean is this morning I sent a mail through one of my forms
and
> it worked fine. But right now and for the last 8 hours I haven't been
able
> to get any email's. I check and qmail is running, but I don't know whats
> going on. Qmail just seems to not send mail all the time.
>
> I am running a simple script to just test mailing functions, and it
doesn't
> work at all now. I ran all the diags on qmail and it says that qmail is
ok.
> I can send a blank message from my server to me but I can't send a message
> from the server.
>
> Please help, I have tried 3 different paths:
>
>
> /var/qmail/bin/qmail-inject
> /usr/sbin/sendmail
> /usr/lib/sendmail
>
> Please HELP!
>
> Avery Brooks
One of my users has observed that mail addressed to him late at night seems to
frequently get delayed. for very long periods of time.
He sent me headers which look like this:
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: (qmail 19114 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2001 11:20:54 -0000
Received: from hydepark-jump.vircio.com (qmailr@[10.1.1.1]) (envelope-sender
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) by hackberry.vircio.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 9 Mar 2001 11:20:54 -0000
Received: (qmail 32510 invoked by uid 84); 9 Mar 2001 02:59:42 -0000
Received: from [EMAIL PROTECTED] by hydepark-jump.vircio.com with
qmail-scanner-0.90 (uvscan: v4.0.50/v4115. . Clean. Processed in 0.328525 secs);
08/03/2001 20:59:42
Received: from mailgate.1starnet.com (HELO mail.1starnet.com) ([207.243.104.248])
(envelope-sender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)by cust-46-98.customer.jump.net
(qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTPfor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 9 Mar 2001 02:59:41 -0000
Received: from sweep2 [207.243.105.243] by mail.1starnet.com (SMTPD32-6.05) id
A71C11570140; Thu, 08 Mar 2001 20:59:40 -0600
Received: (from default [12.41.197.55]) by sweep2 (NAVIEG 2.1 bld 63) with SMTP id
M2001030820593623359for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 08 Mar 2001 20:59:37 -0600
From: "Joan Heuston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Trip
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 21:08:39 -0600
Message-ID: <01c0a846$3d8e7fe0$37c5290c@default>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C0A813.F2F40FE0"
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3
X-UID: 14
I ran them through a slightly modified version of the mailroute.pl script to
see this:
Thu Mar 8 2001 20:59:37 (from default [12.41.197.55])
by sweep2 (NAVIEG 2.1 bld 63)
with SMTP id M2001030820593623359
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
20:59:40 from sweep2 [207.243.105.243]
by mail.1starnet.com (SMTPD32-6.05) id A71C11570140
20:59:41 from mailgate.1starnet.com (HELO mail.1starnet.com)
([207.243.104.248]) (envelope-sender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
by cust-46-98.customer.jump.net (qmail-ldap-1.03)
with SMTP
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
20:59:42 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
by hydepark-jump.vircio.com
with qmail-scanner-0.90 (uvscan: v4.0.50/v4115. . Clean.
Processed in 0.328525 secs)
20:59:42 (qmail 32510 invoked by uid 84)
Fri 9 05:20:54 from hydepark-jump.vircio.com (qmailr@[10.1.1.1])
(envelope-sender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
by hackberry.vircio.com (qmail-ldap-1.03)
with SMTP
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
05:20:54 (qmail 19114 invoked from network)
2001-03-09 05:18:35.339952500 HydePark-Jump.virCIO.Com: new msg 50506
2001-03-09 05:18:35.475620500 HydePark-Jump.virCIO.Com: info msg 50506: bytes 4620
from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 32510 uid 84
2001-03-09 05:18:54.574282500 HydePark-Jump.virCIO.Com: starting delivery 542: msg
50506 to local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2001-03-09 05:18:54.685686500 HydePark-Jump.virCIO.Com: delivery 542: success:
did_0+0+0/
2001-03-09 05:20:53.589986500 HydePark-Jump.virCIO.Com: starting delivery 895: msg
50506 to remote [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2001-03-09 05:20:54.606229500 HydePark-Jump.virCIO.Com: delivery 895: success:
10.1.1.5_accepted_message./Remote_host_said:_250_ok_984136854_qp_19114/
2001-03-09 05:20:54.608846500 HydePark-Jump.virCIO.Com: end msg 50506
2001-03-09 05:20:59.447298500 Hackberry.virCIO.Com: new msg 22132
2001-03-09 05:20:59.447644500 Hackberry.virCIO.Com: info msg 22132: bytes 4911 from
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> qp 19114 uid 101
2001-03-09 05:21:02.173139500 Hackberry.virCIO.Com: starting delivery 644: msg 22132
to local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2001-03-09 05:21:02.210565500 Hackberry.virCIO.Com: starting delivery 645: msg 22132
to local [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2001-03-09 05:21:03.041980500 Hackberry.virCIO.Com: delivery 644: success: did_0+0+0/
2001-03-09 05:21:03.098023500 Hackberry.virCIO.Com: delivery 645: success: did_1+0+0/
2001-03-09 05:21:03.437875500 Hackberry.virCIO.Com: end msg 22132
This afternoon's hackery was to extract my hostname from the headers and grovel
through the logs to find the info you see at the bottom.
Anyway, as you can see, qmail-scanner appears to have handed the message off
to qmail-queue at Thu Mar 8 2001 20:59:42 according to the headers, but it
doesn't show up in the logs until 2001-03-09 05:18:35.339952500.
I'm very confused here. It is true that qmail-queue adds the
(qmail 32510 invoked by uid 84) line, right? How can it possibly not log it
until so many hours later?
I have a job that kicks all sorts of things in the wee hours, so I suspect
that it's probably what allows things to finally flow, but what might be
hanging things for that long? Would this be a symptom of qmail simply not
running even though qmail-smtpd is?
Chris
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Hi,
I recently installed qmail on my server with
virtual domain support, and I found this snapshot while checking the
processes.
This domain was never allowed to relay on my qmail
configuration. And it seems that this domain is trying to email his mailing list
through my qmtp server.
How would I block off this domain through qmail
configuration?
Rick Yang
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