qmail Digest 29 Apr 2001 10:00:00 -0000 Issue 1349
Topics (messages 61617 through 61635):
Re: Return Receipt
61617 by: Thomas Booms
61618 by: Willy De la Court
/var/spool/mail/user getting deleted
61619 by: kamesh jayachandran
61620 by: Ruprecht Helms
61622 by: Daniel Duclos
61623 by: Tim Legant
61630 by: Gavin McCord
Re: Strange POP Problem
61621 by: Charles Cazabon
61624 by: |nix ZixinG
61625 by: Charles Cazabon
61626 by: |nix ZixinG
61627 by: Tim Legant
61628 by: Charles Cazabon
61629 by: David Means
61631 by: |nix ZixinG
61632 by: |nix ZixinG
61633 by: Tim Legant
mailserver, can traceroute, cannot make SMTP connection
61634 by: cc.circlecom.co.id
61635 by: David Means
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I think I've made it all like the man of qreceipt tells. So if I
understood it right, I only need to add the line "| qreceipt <email>" in
.qmail and/or .qmail-default. I made this step and doesn't get a "return
receipt" to the mail which I've sent to the test user.
Where is my prob?
Thomas
Willy De la Court wrote:
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> Thomas,
>
> man qreceipt
> qreceipt only reacts to "Notice Request upon delivery to"
> but there is a problem with some clients like outlook that use
> "Return Receipt To"
> I made a patch for qreceipt to enable this you can find it at
> http://www.quint.be/projects/
>
> On Friday, April 27, 2001 22:52, Thomas Booms
> [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > does qmail generally support the "Return Rceipt" feature? If so,
> > how? And if not so, are there any workarounds or so?
> >
> > I want to be able to use this feature.
> >
> > Thanks for your help.
> >
> Thomas
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On Saturday, April 28, 2001 12:00, Thomas Booms
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> I think I've made it all like the man of qreceipt tells. So if I
> understood it right, I only need to add the line "| qreceipt
> <email>" in .qmail and/or .qmail-default. I made this step and
> doesn't get a "return receipt" to the mail which I've sent to the
> test user.
>
> Where is my prob?
>
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> > I made a patch for qreceipt to enable this you can find it at
> > http://www.quint.be/projects/
> >
Did you apply the patch
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Hai ,
I previously had sendmail that was with stock install of RHL6.2.
Now I removed that.And installed the qmail.
I have gone through the INSTALL.mbox for how to transfer mails from /var/spool/mail to
~Mailbox.
I have done the following things
1)moved each file from /var/spool/mail to respective home directories.
2)given a symbollic link to ~user/Mailbox from /var/spool/mail/user as a root
3)chmod 1777 /var/spool/mail
4)Now the problem is when one user sends mail to other user he recieves the mail but
it has no content.And the symbollic link in the /var/spool/mail/user changes to
Bogus.user.Cnq something like this.
It happens when the reciever invokes his mail program to read mail.
waiting for your reply
kamesh jayachandran
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At 18:26 28.04.01 -0400, kamesh jayachandran wrote:
>Hai ,
>I previously had sendmail that was with stock install of RHL6.2.
>Now I removed that.And installed the qmail.
>I have gone through the INSTALL.mbox for how to transfer mails from
>/var/spool/mail to ~Mailbox.
>I have done the following things
>1)moved each file from /var/spool/mail to respective home directories.
ok you can do
>2)given a symbollic link to ~user/Mailbox from /var/spool/mail/user as a root
why, you set the delivery into the homedirs by the defaultdelivery-file in
/var/qmail/control. Here you can set delivery using maildir. For the right
syntax have a look into LWQ
>3)chmod 1777 /var/spool/mail
So you can write a mail into a securitylist an invite all hacker to visit
your mailserver and make nonsense with it. The maildirs should set to 703.
>4)Now the problem is when one user sends mail to other user he recieves
>the mail but it has no content.And the symbollic link in the
>/var/spool/mail/user changes to Bogus.user.Cnq something like this.
When I remember you have no directory user under /var/spool/mail. You only
have a file user.mbx. This is a ascii-textfile that contains the mails in
appending form.
Better you use /home/user/Maildir and use qmail-pop3 for getting the mails
with the different clients. To configure qmail-pop3 have a look into LWQ.
Test the delivery by using qmail-inject and sending a mail to the
email-account. Use telent mailserver 110 to test if you can receive the
mail by authenticating you on the server and retrieve the mail with the
command retr [No.]. The right Mail-No. you will get by using list in the
telnetsession.
Regards,
Ruprecht
On Sat, 28 Apr 2001, Ruprecht Helms wrote:
> So you can write a mail into a securitylist an invite all hacker to visit
> your mailserver and make nonsense with it. The maildirs should set to 703.
Why is that? I always heard that Maildir may be 1777, so my maildir is
1777. Now you scared me! =) Just for enlightement purposes, what kind of
nonsense a hacker could do with my box? Thanx in advance!
(Just in case, I am chmod'ing my maildir right now! =P)
daniduc
Daniel Lobato Duclos - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.cybershark.net
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On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 06:26:10PM -0400, kamesh jayachandran wrote:
> I have done the following things
> 1)moved each file from /var/spool/mail to respective home directories.
Good.
> 2)given a symbollic link to ~user/Mailbox from /var/spool/mail/user as a root
> 3)chmod 1777 /var/spool/mail
No need to do this. In fact, it's the cause of your problem.
> 4)Now the problem is when one user sends mail to other user he
> recieves the mail but it has no content.And the symbollic link in the
> /var/spool/mail/user changes to Bogus.user.Cnq something like this.
Make sure that the default delivery is set to './Mailbox' . The default
delivery is set on the command line of "qmail-start". Find your startup
script (I have no idea what you're using - you haven't told us) and
check that it looks something like this:
env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" qmail-start './Mailbox'
(this is the important part) --> ^^^^^^^^^^^
The reason your mailboxes in /var/spool/mail are changing to
BOGUS.$LOGNAME.xxx is that you are currently using procmail and it
is configured to deliver to /var/spool/mail/. You need to fix your
procmailrc. You can find information about procmail in the FAQ and you
can see how to use it as the default delivery mechanism by looking at
the scripts in /var/qmail/boot/.
Tim
On 2001.04.28 19:05 Daniel Duclos wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Apr 2001, Ruprecht Helms wrote:
>
>
> > So you can write a mail into a securitylist an invite all hacker to
> visit
> > your mailserver and make nonsense with it. The maildirs should set to
> 703.
>
> Why is that? I always heard that Maildir may be 1777, so my maildir is
> 1777. Now you scared me! =) Just for enlightement purposes, what kind of
> nonsense a hacker could do with my box? Thanx in advance!
> (Just in case, I am chmod'ing my maildir right now! =P)
>
> daniduc
>
> Daniel Lobato Duclos - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.cybershark.net
>
No. No. No.
maildirmake creates a maildir with perms 700, i.e.
drwx------
Why would you need it set any other way?
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|nix ZixinG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi guys, I've got a strange problem with my POP3 Daemon. It was working
> fine all along when suddenly, my client's can't authenticate. They keep
> having timeout error. I felt strange, so I waited, and found that after
> waiting for 2 minutes, it will actually authenticate and get my mail.
This is the number-one most frequently asked question on this list. It most
definitely is answered by the documentation and the FAQ.
Charles
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Hi. Then where would I be able to read the FAQ to solve this problem?
Thanks
David
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Cazabon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: Strange POP Problem
> |nix ZixinG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi guys, I've got a strange problem with my POP3 Daemon. It was working
> > fine all along when suddenly, my client's can't authenticate. They keep
> > having timeout error. I felt strange, so I waited, and found that after
> > waiting for 2 minutes, it will actually authenticate and get my mail.
>
> This is the number-one most frequently asked question on this list. It
most
> definitely is answered by the documentation and the FAQ.
>
> Charles
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> Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/
> Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions.
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|nix ZixinG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Then where would I be able to read the FAQ to solve this problem?
We're not here to spoon-feed you. Do your homework. Check the files included
in the source, Dan's site, www.qmail.org, and www.lifewithqmail.org .
Charles
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If you're not intrested in helping there is no need for you to be so
sarcastic.
Thanks anyway
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Cazabon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 3:37 AM
Subject: Re: Strange POP Problem
> |nix ZixinG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Then where would I be able to read the FAQ to solve this problem?
>
> We're not here to spoon-feed you. Do your homework. Check the files
included
> in the source, Dan's site, www.qmail.org, and www.lifewithqmail.org .
>
> Charles
> --
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> Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/
> Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions.
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On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 03:42:15AM +0800, |nix ZixinG wrote:
> If you're not intrested in helping there is no need for you to be so
> sarcastic.
>
> Thanks anyway
He helped you twice! He said it was a FAQ, so, making a wild guess, you
might look in the FAQ.
Then he suggested other places to look (in case you couldn't find the
FAQ, or it didn't make sense and you wanted another perspective).
What he didn't do was force your mouth open with a C-clamp and shovel
the answer, in exquisite detail, in.
That's because you should get in the habit of looking things up *before*
you ask. It helps save your time (you'll often find the answer without
having to wait on the list) and it saves our time. That's right - all of
us *volunteers* who read 75-100 messages *every day* on this list alone,
trying to help people with real problems.
Read the docs; then, if you can't find anything in them about tcpserver,
or DNS, or timeouts, ask again.
Tim
|nix ZixinG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you're not intrested in helping there is no need for you to be so
> sarcastic.
If you're not interested in doing your homework and reading the documentation
before sending FAQs to a mailing list of volunteer qmail contacts, feel free
to purchase commercial qmail support from one of the many organizations listed
at www.qmail.org .
If you're willing to pay my rates, I'll answer every FAQ you've got, with no
sarcasm -- payment in advance.
Charles
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Hum... well, if you do find the answer to your problem in
http://es.qmail.org/documentacion/autor/FAQ/html/qmail-FAQ.html, then please
let me know. I search for "auth," "timeout", and "time" (since you're
having an authentication problem) and it was not to be found. I suppose we
need to go back to Mind Reading 101, eh? Darn. I knew I should've studied
more in that class...
DMeans.
|nix ZixinG wrote:
> If you're not intrested in helping there is no need for you to be so
> sarcastic.
>
> Thanks anyway
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charles Cazabon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 3:37 AM
> Subject: Re: Strange POP Problem
>
> > |nix ZixinG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Then where would I be able to read the FAQ to solve this problem?
> >
> > We're not here to spoon-feed you. Do your homework. Check the files
> included
> > in the source, Dan's site, www.qmail.org, and www.lifewithqmail.org .
> >
> > Charles
> > --
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/
> > Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions.
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Its strange that people freely assumes that we don't read the docs. but we
do. Its just so that we can't find the answers. And no, I didn't find
anything that is like that here and in LWQ
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Means" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: Strange POP Problem
> Hum... well, if you do find the answer to your problem in
> http://es.qmail.org/documentacion/autor/FAQ/html/qmail-FAQ.html, then
please
> let me know. I search for "auth," "timeout", and "time" (since you're
> having an authentication problem) and it was not to be found. I suppose
we
> need to go back to Mind Reading 101, eh? Darn. I knew I should've
studied
> more in that class...
>
>
> DMeans.
>
>
> |nix ZixinG wrote:
>
> > If you're not intrested in helping there is no need for you to be so
> > sarcastic.
> >
> > Thanks anyway
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Charles Cazabon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 3:37 AM
> > Subject: Re: Strange POP Problem
> >
> > > |nix ZixinG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Then where would I be able to read the FAQ to solve this problem?
> > >
> > > We're not here to spoon-feed you. Do your homework. Check the files
> > included
> > > in the source, Dan's site, www.qmail.org, and www.lifewithqmail.org .
> > >
> > > Charles
> > > --
> >
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Charles Cazabon
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > GPL'ed software available at:
http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/
> > > Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions.
> >
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
I'll decide on commercial support. But you're out. You're too rude for that.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Cazabon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 5:58 AM
Subject: Re: Strange POP Problem
> |nix ZixinG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If you're not intrested in helping there is no need for you to be so
> > sarcastic.
>
> If you're not interested in doing your homework and reading the
documentation
> before sending FAQs to a mailing list of volunteer qmail contacts, feel
free
> to purchase commercial qmail support from one of the many organizations
listed
> at www.qmail.org .
>
> If you're willing to pay my rates, I'll answer every FAQ you've got, with
no
> sarcasm -- payment in advance.
>
> Charles
> --
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> Charles Cazabon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/software/
> Any opinions expressed are just that -- my opinions.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
On Sat, Apr 28, 2001 at 04:55:09PM +0800, |nix ZixinG wrote:
> It was working fine all along when suddenly, my client's can't
> authenticate. They keep having timeout error. I felt strange, so I
> waited, and found that after waiting for 2 minutes, it will actually
> authenticate and get my mail.
>
> Any help will be deeply appreciated
Hmmm. Well, it's been a *long* time since I read the FAQ or LWQ, so I
went back to search. Dan's FAQ doesn't mention your question because
it's not directly a qmail problem. LWQ is in a different format from
when I first read it and, although I thought I remembered this being
addressed by Dave, I don't see it now.
However, it *is* far and away the most Frequently Asked Question on this
list. LWQ provides links to the list archive. Here's the link for the
list archive search engine, for the future.
http://www-archive.ornl.gov:8000/
Remember, according to LWQ, "Most questions about qmail can be answered
by searching the list archives first."
Furthermore, according to the qmail FAQ,
http://cr.yp.to/qmail/faq/solutions.html#education ,
"If all else fails, you could try asking for help on the qmail
mailing list. Your message should give complete answers to the
following three questions:
1. What exactly did you do?
2. What exactly did the computer do?
3. What exactly did you expect the computer to do?"
Part of that "What exactly did you do?" is posting the exact script you
use to start the POP server. Someone might have pointed out your problem
immediately. You didn't really provide us much information. You just
dropped in out of nowhere, said "My clients are getting timeouts; what's
wrong?", and expected us to somehow (magically?) figure out how your
system was configured. If you give us a little more to go on, you're
more likely to get good answers.
For now, read up on tcpserver's options. Either the man page or Dan's
page on cr.yp.to (http://cr.yp.to/ucspi-tcp/tcpserver.html). There are
two possible reasons for timeouts: 1) DNS lookups and 2) identd lookups.
tcpserver provides options to enable or disable either of those.
Tim
Dear All,
I receive some strange problems lately,
my mailserver logs many CANT_MAKE_SMTP_CONNECTION.#4.4.1
So I took some domains from the logs and tried to examine the connection to
each domains.
What I did is I connect to internet using 2 connection, 1 my leased line
conn, and 1 other ISP. and then tried to traceroute and telnet to port 25.
There are some sites where I CANT TRACEROUTE using both conn, so I suppose
the routing could be the problem, but from the ISP, I CAN TELNET to the
site's port 25, in the other hand, I CAN'T TELNET using my own mailserver
(leased line). It's strange to me.
From ISP side, if it cannot traceroute, why it can telnet?
Anyone can help me?
Thanks!
Chrisanthy
telnet and traceroute use very differing methods of reaching the destination.
It is not uncommon to be able to traceroute to a dest, but not telnet, or to
be able to telnet, but not traceroute. Typically, if you can telnet but not
traceroute, then someone is blocking the traceroute via a firewall rule.
There's another command called tracepath which sometimes works better than
traceroute.
The connection problem your seeing might be due to a routing issue, however,
that seems contrary to what traceroute is reporting. Do you have a firewall
up? Does the remote host? It's possible that they're blocking a range of IP
addresses, or you're blocking access to them.
David
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> I receive some strange problems lately,
> my mailserver logs many CANT_MAKE_SMTP_CONNECTION.#4.4.1
>
> So I took some domains from the logs and tried to examine the connection to
> each domains.
> What I did is I connect to internet using 2 connection, 1 my leased line
> conn, and 1 other ISP. and then tried to traceroute and telnet to port 25.
>
> There are some sites where I CANT TRACEROUTE using both conn, so I suppose
> the routing could be the problem, but from the ISP, I CAN TELNET to the
> site's port 25, in the other hand, I CAN'T TELNET using my own mailserver
> (leased line). It's strange to me.
>
> From ISP side, if it cannot traceroute, why it can telnet?
>
> Anyone can help me?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Chrisanthy
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