Hi all, It's a fairly straight forward problem (I think I have written the list about it before, and I believe someone posted last night that is having a similar / same problem) Client connects to pop They start to download they get a few messages (somewhere between 1 and 5) It will just hang popping out at this point. it will time out and claim the pop3 server is not responding. This is happening with people with both outlook express and Netscape mail. Some have virus scanners some don't. The problem started appearing about 2 to 2.5 weeks ago. Not everyone runs into this issue - but we have been getting more and more complaints. qmail-popup is being started from xinetd. Any suggestions / help would be appreciated. -Tony A safe place for Apple ]['s... http://www.a2haven.org ------------------------------- "Ugh - You mean I have to do that AGAIN??"