Hello right now I start qmail with "csh -cf '/var/qmail/rc &' 1> /dev/null" and "tcpserver -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u1003 -g102 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd &" this is what I have in my /etc/inittab file: qm:123456:respawn:/usr/local/bin/tcpserver -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -u1003 -g102 0 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd It works great but every now and then I get the dreaded spawning too fast wait blah blah blah. I was just curious if maybe my entry was wrong or if maybe their was a simplier way to set it up. And before you say it yes I know about LWQ and it's a great concept I just like things simple and neat =). thanks for any information that might help, Mike