I said very clearly that this was my opinion, my
decision, and I understood that I was limiting anybody
else's ability to help me out.  What part about that wasn't 
clear?

By my original post it is also clear I am *not*
anything but a *qmail* newbie, but am clearly capable
of setting up firewalls correctly, setting up forwarders, 
understanding correct and secure network architectures,
and capable of forming clear, understandable, and typo-free 
e-mails.

If you want to reveal you network architecture, go right ahead.  
Again, coming from a very strong computer security background, 
I personally advise against e-mailing this kind of info to a very 
large, public mailing list.  E-mail it to a competent individual
that you trust, if you must.  I probably should have done this.

But instead, my problem was actually *solved*, yes *solved*
by someone on the list, (and I thank that person quite a bit
for not having a BOFH attitude), without having to reveal all
this.  I repeat, I obscured the domain and IP information, yet 
gave enough information for my problem to be solved.  Doesn't
get much better than that.

I wonder:  if one of the goals of the qmail community is to 
spread the good word, then exactly what is the purpose of
calling someone's actions Really Stupid?  

Jud.

Adrian Ho wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 10:38:56AM -0400, Judson Main wrote:
> > *Always* obscure information, else you wish to invite attacks
> > against your network.
> 
> Obscuring information in a call for help is Really Stupid, if for no
> other reason that you're just as likely to end up /hiding/ the problem
> as illustrating it.  Typos are one large subset (but by no means the
> only one) of the problems that magically disappear when everything is
> munged into "domain.com" or something equally anonymous.
> 
> Real-life example: A couple of days back, I was helping a local Linux
> newbie with DNS resolution problems.  I asked for his /etc/resolv.conf
> and got this:
> 

> 
> No, I'm not kidding, and yes, he got royally flamed by others.
> 
> If you're really that paranoid, pay a professional consultant like
> Russell Nelson to fix it for you.  You get confidentiality /and/
> performance guarantees that way, plus you won't thoroughly confuse
> (and possibly piss off) the folks who're trying to help.
> 
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