>Hmm. I've never see any of these bounces - what do the headers look
>like? I also sent a mail directly to the Yahoo address and didn't get
>a bounce.
David Raistrick sent me a copy of the bounce and a close look at the
headers shows that it's a namezero.com problem not a Yahoo
problem. That's no surprise, namezero.com have been sending bounces to
headers address for ages.
The problem is the list address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is MXed
to mail-in.namezero.com and looks to have a forwarding address of
[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you look closely you can see that Yahoo is
rejecting the mail at the SMTP level. The bounce is thus originating
from mail-out.namezero.com which is incorrectly using a header address
as the bounce address.
Yahoo is doing everything correctly as far as I can see and namezero
is doing everything incorrectly.
Regards.
On Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 09:34:12AM -0700, David Raistrick allegedly wrote:
>
>
> :)
>
>
> --
> David Raistrick (deep in the south georgia woods)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Return-Path: <MAILER-DAEMON>
> Received: from mail-out.namezero.com (mail-out.namezero.com [216.34.13.235])
> by wow.atlasta.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f7TFtF185783
> for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 08:55:15 -0700 (PDT)
> Received: from root by mail-out.namezero.com with local (Exim 3.30 #2)
> id 15c7gM-0005s9-00
> for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 08:55:10 -0700
> X-Failed-Recipients: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> From: Mail Delivery System <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
> Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 08:55:10 -0700
>
> This message was created automatically by mail delivery software (Exim).
>
> A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
> recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> SMTP error from remote mailer after end of data:
> host mx3.mail.yahoo.com [64.157.4.82]: 554 delivery error:
> dd Sorry, your message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] cannot be delivered. This
>account is over quota. - mta419.mail.yahoo.com
>
> ------ This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. ------
>
> Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Received: from lavender.backend.namezero.com ([10.0.0.3] helo=lavender)
> by mail-out.namezero.com with esmtp (Exim 3.30 #2)
> id 15c7fS-0005iy-00
> for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 08:54:14 -0700
> Received: from muncher.math.uic.edu (HELO muncher.math.uic.edu)
>(muncher.math.uic.edu/131.193.178.181)
> by lavender with SMTP; Wed, 29 Aug 2001 08:54:14 -0700 (PDT)
> Apparently from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On behalf of:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Received: (qmail 4631 invoked by uid 1002); 29 Aug 2001 15:49:45 -0000
> Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm
> Precedence: bulk
> Delivered-To: mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Received: (qmail 18368 invoked from network); 29 Aug 2001 15:49:45 -0000
> Received: from wow.atlasta.net (128.241.76.20)
> by muncher.math.uic.edu with SMTP; 29 Aug 2001 15:49:45 -0000
> Received: from localhost (keen@localhost)
> by wow.atlasta.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f7TFnGG85667;
> Wed, 29 Aug 2001 08:49:16 -0700 (PDT)
> Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 08:49:16 -0700 (PDT)
> From: David Raistrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Bernhard Graf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: dealing with minhhoangnet
> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
> X-NZ-Hop-Count: 1
>
> On Wed, 29 Aug 2001, Bernhard Graf wrote:
>
> > Do you really expect some human being behind these addresses?
>
> There /should/ be but we wont go there...
>
> > BTW and OT: Have a look at "whois yahoo.com" - is this normal?
>
> Entirely. Some people have nothing better to do with their time then
> enter host records of this sort. (I, uh, did one once at the request of a
> former employeer in re: to a company who bailed on buying us...)
>
> whois -h whois.networksolutions.com yahoo.com
>
> will get you the data you actually want.
>
> --
> David Raistrick (deep in the south georgia woods)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
