qmail Digest 21 Sep 2001 10:00:01 -0000 Issue 1494

Topics (messages 69753 through 69785):

pop3 vpopmail qmail
        69753 by: Oliver Etzel
        69754 by: Markus Eskola
        69761 by: Charles Cazabon

Improved TMDA - A SPAM reduction system for qmail
        69755 by: Jason R. Mastaler

$HOME/Maildir qmail
        69756 by: Oliver Etzel
        69762 by: Charles Cazabon
        69775 by: Ruprecht Helms

Bug in the Mrs. Brisby derived SMTP AUTH patches
        69757 by: Uwe Ohse

Log username in POP3 connection
        69758 by: ari.doctordata.com.br

Re: A question about hostname
        69759 by: Dave Sill

Re: POP Before SMTP Question
        69760 by: Charles Cazabon

Re: Are TCPSERVER and XINETD compatible?
        69763 by: Matthias Andree

Alternative listmanager?
        69764 by: Eric Persson
        69765 by: Peter van Dijk
        69766 by: Robin S. Socha
        69767 by: Dave Sill

MUA ./Maildir
        69768 by: Oliver Etzel
        69769 by: Guido van Driel
        69770 by: Charles Cazabon
        69771 by: Clemens Hermann

Has Anybody EVER Heard Of A Network Sniff Attack In Practice?
        69772 by: David T. Ashley
        69773 by: Charles Cazabon
        69774 by: Hubbard, David

Problem receiving mail
        69776 by: Dave Anderson
        69777 by: Dave Sill
        69778 by: Charles Cazabon
        69782 by: Dave Anderson
        69784 by: Dave Anderson

Re: where is the unvisible character in the qmail-pop3d-run-script
        69779 by: Ruprecht Helms

ezmlm response
        69780 by: qmail-help.list.cr.yp.to
        69785 by: qmail-help.list.cr.yp.to

Re: qmail-ldap + qmail-1.03-qmtpc-mailroutes-1.5.patch
        69781 by: Federico Edelman Anaya

unix humor :-0
        69783 by: Kitabjian, Dave

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My qmail is running. That is good.
But I cannot use any pop account to pop in.

Is that right, that one can use either qmail-pop3d or vpopmail as a pop3
service??

Where can I read something to build pop3 accounts and services for my
virtual users??

Thanx Olli




Good reading is Paul Greggs Single UID Howto;
http://www.pgregg.com/projects/qmail/singleuid/


markus
At 12:55 2001-09-20 +0200, Oliver Etzel wrote:
>My qmail is running. That is good.
>But I cannot use any pop account to pop in.
>
>Is that right, that one can use either qmail-pop3d or vpopmail as a pop3
>service??
>
>Where can I read something to build pop3 accounts and services for my
>virtual users??
>
>Thanx Olli





Oliver Etzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My qmail is running. That is good.  But I cannot use any pop account
> to pop in.
[...] 
> Where can I read something to build pop3 accounts and services for my
> virtual users??

vmailmgr, available from vmailmgr.org, has everything you need.

Charles
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Since I last announced it here, I've improved my Tagged Message
Delivery Agent, making it much easier for legitimate, but unknown
senders to get mail through to you.  It now validates these messages
using a simple challenge/response process similar to SpamCop's.

* TMDA Summary:

  TMDA is an OSI certified software application for qmail systems
  designed to significantly reduce the amount of SPAM/UCE you receive.
  A "whitelist" filter allows known contacts immediately into your
  mailbox, and all others must reply to a simple confirmation to
  validate their message.  Once they respond to the confirmation,
  their original message is delivered to you.

For more information including download locations and installation
instructions, visit the TMDA homepage:

  <URL:http://tmda.sourceforge.net/>

Enjoy.




Hello,

when I want to pop in my mailaccounts. My MUA delivered an error:  

'-ERR this user has no $HOME/Maildir'

What can I do?

Is it better to use vpopmail al pop service?

How can I read about this?

Olli




Oliver Etzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> '-ERR this user has no $HOME/Maildir'

This is in the mailing list archives many, many times -- search that.
If you want further specific help, you'll have to provide exact
installation and configuration details of your system to us.

Charles
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Am Thu, 20 Sep 2001 schrieb Oliver Etzel:
> Hello,
> 
> when I want to pop in my mailaccounts. My MUA delivered an error:  
> 
> '-ERR this user has no $HOME/Maildir'
> 
> What can I do?

possible an environmentvariable helps

such as   export MAILDIR=$HOME/Maildir

in your /etc/profile


and don't forget to patch the qmail-pop3d with the diff-file.

 
> Is it better to use vpopmail al pop service?
> 
> How can I read about this?


May be in the qmail-homepage

Regards,
Ruprecht




Code derived from Mrs. Brisbys SMTP AUTH patch contains the following:

  switch ((pid=fork())) {
    case -1: die_nomem();
    case 0: close(fds[1]);
      fd_copy(3,fds[0]);
      execvp(smtpauth_argv[1], smtpauth_argv+1);
      die_nomem();
  };

Do not do that - replace the die_nomem() line with a simple _exit(1).

Problem: This leads to _two_ error lines if the execvp fails, thus
breaking the SMTP protocol.
 
        220 ohse.de ESMTP
        auth login plain
        334 UGFzc3dvcmQ6
        test
        421 out of memory (#4.3.0)
        535 auth failure
        quit
        221 ohse.de

Regards, Uwe (forced by management to implement the SMTP AUTH on one
              of our machines)





Hi All,


    I was using checkpassword-0.81 with a checkpassword-0.81-bench.patch
and qmail-pop3d.1.03-bench.patch to write to syslog the POP3 connections,
but now I'm using checkpassword-0.90 and it stops to write to syslog, now
it writes: "user: (null), mails: 4, size: 433450". So I can't get the
username... How can I fix this? Or, is there another to get the username in
the syslog or other log file?

Thanks,

Ari







[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>I am a qmail newbie and I wanted to know what is the meaning of 
>your.full.host.name in the INSTALL.ctl file ?.

The fully qualified domain name of the host upon which you're
installing qmail.

>I have a dial-up ppp connection to the internet and I get my IP address
>as you all know, dynamically.   The hostname file in my system - Linux
>Debian - is the name I gave to my computer which has no canonical in the
>DNS, is the meaning for the IP address of my ISP (incoming mail server or
>the outgoing mail server ?.
>
>What should I do ?

You have at least three options:

1) Use a made-up name like hostname.local. You'll have to be careful
   to set return addresses to replyable addresses. Some systems will
   refuse mail or connections from you because you're not in the DNS.

2) Use a dynamic DNS service like dyndns.org (there are many others,
   both free and commercial).

3) Use your ISP's mail host's FQDN. Requires that you use the same
   user/alias name as your ISP. Some systems will refuse mail or
   connections from you because your IP doesn't match what's in the
   DNS for the mail host.

-Dave




David T. Ashley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I'm searching for a "POP before SMTP" solution for qmail.

Also referred to as SMTP-after-POP/IMAP.
 
> I've searched using Google, and I cannot find a definitive "official"
> solution.

See qmail.org instead for most qmail information.  If it isn't at
qmail.org, chances are it's not worth using with qmail.
 
> Which solution is the best or most popular?

I also vote for Bruce Guenter's relay-ctrl, as it has the cleanest, most
qmail-like design (and is apparently getting cleaner yet :).  Another
feature in its favour is that it can be used with IMAP as well as POP3.
Bruce's software is available from untroubled.org.

Charles
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2001, David T. Ashley wrote:

> Can Tcpserver (i.e. ucspi-tcp package) coexist with xinetd?

"Works for me", but be careful, better compile xinetd 2.3.3 without IPv6
support and watch it closely.

> Also, what would happen if tcpserver and xinetd were configured to handle
> incoming connections on the same port?  I'm assuming that my computer would

Who comes first, gets the port, the second fails with
"EADDRINUSE". Unless you make both use the REUSEADDR flag, in that case,
prepare for trouble, and partial sessions received by either software.

-- 
Matthias Andree




Hi !

What alternative mailing list managers is it to ezmlm? Its preferrably
that it works good with qmail and free to use.

//eric




On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 04:52:54PM -0700, Eric Persson wrote:
> Hi !
> 
> What alternative mailing list managers is it to ezmlm? Its preferrably
> that it works good with qmail and free to use.

I hear good things about Mailman.

Greetz, Peter
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* Peter van Dijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 04:52:54PM -0700, Eric Persson wrote:

>> What alternative mailing list managers is it to ezmlm? Its
>> preferrably that it works good with qmail and free to use.

> I hear good things about Mailman.

If that's indeed the case, please consult a doctor - you've got a
hearing problem. While MailMan is in many ways an improvement over
Majordomo (ummm... I know that's not really difficult), it pales in
comparison to ezmlm. I happen to be one of the list maintainers for a
well-known editor, and I can tell you that MailMan's web interface
*sucks*. Alledgedly, there are some improvements underway, but I
cannot see any reason whatsoever not to use ezmlm(-idx) (which also
has its own list, BTW).




Eric Persson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>What alternative mailing list managers is it to ezmlm? Its preferrably
>that it works good with qmail and free to use.

What's your beef with ezmlm? What features are you looking for?

-Dave




Hello,

which MUA doesn�t work with qmail ./Maildir system??

Outlook Express??




* Oliver Etzel  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> which MUA doesn�t work with qmail ./Maildir system??

Lots and lots...

> Outlook Express??

For instance, but did I read your question right?
you want to know which MUA does _not_ support maildir or
is your question which MUA's _do_ support maildir?

The later is easy, Mutt does, gnus does and the list can 
add to this list.
-- 

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.

PGP signature





Oliver Etzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> which MUA doesn�t work with qmail ./Maildir system??

All MUAs which can access mail via POP3 or IMAP will work with any
server-side mail storage, including Maildirs, because it is totally
transparent to the network client.

If you're running an MUA which accesses mail directly through
manipulation of files, then the MUA has to be able to understand Maildir
format.  These are typically Unix MUAs, and most either understand
Maildir format or can be patched to do so.  There are a few common Unix
MUAs which don't have native support but use POP/IMAP instead.
 
> Outlook Express??

While there are hundreds of valid reasons to avoid using OE, ability to
access mail when the server stores it in Maildirs is not one of them.

Charles
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Am 20.09.2001 um 17:21:07 schrieb Oliver Etzel:

Hi,

> which MUA doesn�t work with qmail ./Maildir system??
> 
> Outlook Express??

for example. But as qmail only runs on unix-like systems this should not
be a problem, eh?
According to your former postings you might want to know if you are
likely to encounter problems when connecting via pop3/imap to your
qmail-server. And then - no, the majority of clients (also outlook express)
works with the lwq solution. The way of storing mails on the server
should not have effects on the compatibility with pop3 clients. As long
as the pop3-server knows how to handle the mail-spool/dir/etc. it should
not matter for compatibility with pop3 clients. It will however have big
impact on serverside performance and security how you store the mails.

hth

/ch

-- 
"Contrary to popular belief, Unix is user friendly.
It just happens to be selective about who it makes friends with."




Mark,

Your point of caution is very good.  But that leads to one other question.

A lot of sites are very security conscious.  For example, at
www.sourceforge.net, all CVS operations are using an SSH key.  And of
course, there is the encrypted protocol with browsers for credit-card stuff,
etc.

But, in practice, has ANYBODY ever heard of a network sniff attack by a
spammer?  Everyone complains that POP3 and FTP send passwords in the plain,
and an attack is possible, but has it ever been done?

It would be hard for me to imagine a spammer somewhere with access to the
right equipment positioned carrying the right traffic to intercept a POP3
transaction.

Does this ever happen in practice on the Internet?  I know it is possible,
but is it done?

Dave.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 10:04 AM
> To: David T. Ashley
> Subject: Re: POP Before SMTP Question
>
>
> > I'm searching for a "POP before SMTP" solution for qmail.
> >
> I won't answer what others already have but I will warn you
> that you will probably want to run an ssl wrapped pop server
> or some other solution that encrypts pop passwords. Pop
> normally sends plain text passwords across the net which
> are very easy to sniff out. Once they have the login information
> a spammer would then be able to authenticate with your pop
> server and use your server as a relay.
>
>
>
>





David T. Ashley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> But, in practice, has ANYBODY ever heard of a network sniff attack by a
> spammer?  Everyone complains that POP3 and FTP send passwords in the plain,
> and an attack is possible, but has it ever been done?

Not by a spammer.  But there are many records of passwords being stolen
via sniffing and used to gain unauthorized access to other services.
The SourceForge attack involved a sniffer set up in an ISP's datacenter
IIRC.

Spammers will eventually try such tricks, once the number of open relays
dwindles to the point where it is less effort to fraudently obtain a
password to an authenticated SMTP service than it is to find an open
relay.

Charles
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From: David T. Ashley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
> But, in practice, has ANYBODY ever heard of a network sniff 
> attack by a spammer?  Everyone complains that POP3 and FTP
> send passwords in the plain, and an attack is possible, but
> has it ever been done?
> 
> It would be hard for me to imagine a spammer somewhere with 
> access to the right equipment positioned carrying the right
> traffic to intercept a POP3 transaction.

All you need is a promiscuous network card and a cable modem...
happens all the time.

Dave

> Does this ever happen in practice on the Internet?  I know it 
> is possible, but is it done?




Hi,

I have been using qmail with no problems for a few weeks, but it has =
suddenly stopped receiving mail from other machines. I can't think of =
anything that has changed on my system.

There are a load of mails queued at my ISP. My firewall logs acceptance =
of the packets on my smtp port, but nothing ends up in my maildir (I'm =
using maildirs) I can send mail no problem. I can send and receive mail =
on the same machine. If I use a different machine on the same private =
network, I can telnet to the smtp port on the problem machine, go =
through the tests - it all looks fine, but the mail does not end up in =
my maildir. Here is a log of doing it on the same machine, then the =
other one on the private network. First one results in a mail in my =
maildir, the second one doesn't (the problem machine is =
lake.demon.co.uk)

@400000003baa00e60fa6011c info msg 36248: bytes 258 from =
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> qp 8333 uid 0
@400000003baa00e6116915ac starting delivery 2: msg 36248 to local =
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
@400000003baa00e6116934ec status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
@400000003baa00e61345e044 delivery 2: success: did_1+0+0/
@400000003baa00e61345ff84 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
@400000003baa00e613460f24 end msg 36248
@400000003baa032102f911fc tcpserver: status: 1/20
@400000003baa0321030206f4 tcpserver: pid 8719 from 192.168.0.3
@400000003baa0321030ec894 tcpserver: ok 8719 0:158.152.26.156:25 =
pedro.localnet:192.168.0.3::1079
@400000003baa034f31f0f72c new msg 36248
@400000003baa034f31f1166c info msg 36248: bytes 212 from <> qp 8738 uid =
100
@400000003baa034f33b0f2c4 starting delivery 3: msg 36248 to local =
@lake.demon.co.uk
@400000003baa034f33b11204 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
@400000003baa034f33b966d4 delivery 3: success:=20
@400000003baa034f33b97e44 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
@400000003baa034f33b989fc end msg 36248
@400000003baa04222e0c4abc tcpserver: end 8719 status 0
@400000003baa04222e0c6de4 tcpserver: status: 0/20

I've been through the FAQ and install documents again, but can't see =
where to go next. It's probably something fairly simple, but I can't see =
it. I'm running qmail from rpm qmail-1.03-102memphis on RedHat 7.0, =
kernel 2.2.16-22.

Many thanks for any help
Dave

PS. Why does the qmail running this list not accept mail from Outlook 
Express? See below

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at muncher.math.uic.edu.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
The qmail list does not accept messages from Microsoft Outlook Express.





Dave Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>@400000003baa034f31f0f72c new msg 36248
>@400000003baa034f31f1166c info msg 36248: bytes 212 from <> qp 8738 uid =
>100
>@400000003baa034f33b0f2c4 starting delivery 3: msg 36248 to local =
>@lake.demon.co.uk
>@400000003baa034f33b11204 status: local 1/10 remote 0/20
>@400000003baa034f33b966d4 delivery 3: success:=20
>@400000003baa034f33b97e44 status: local 0/10 remote 0/20
>@400000003baa034f33b989fc end msg 36248

The message was addressed to "@lake.demon.co.uk". Where do you think
qmail should have delivered it? There was no recipient specified.

>PS. Why does the qmail running this list not accept mail from Outlook 
>Express? See below

See the list archives.

-Dave




Dave Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Here is a log of doing it on the same machine, then the = other one on
> the private network. First one results in a mail in my = maildir, the
> second one doesn't (the problem machine is = lake.demon.co.uk)

Unfortunately, it looks like your mail was in quoted-unreadable encoding
or something, so I had to try to strip out that encoding.  I'm also
trimming the timestamps off for readability and line length reasons:
 
> info msg 36248: bytes 258 from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> qp 8333 uid 0

Whatever's generating that envelope sender is broken.

> starting delivery 2: msg 36248 to local
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

That line should only contain the address in question, not all this
extra crap.  The envelope sender is broken.  Oh -- your MUA did this
when mailing the report, probably?

> delivery 2: success: did_1+0+0/

This delivery succeeded.

> info msg 36248: bytes 212 from <> qp 8738 uid 100

> starting delivery 3: msg 36248 to local @lake.demon.co.uk

local-part is empty.  That's the problem.  What address were you trying
to send to?

> delivery 3: success:=20

Where's the "did 0+0+1" or whatever from this log line?  What are the
contents of your ~alias/.qmail-default?

> PS. Why does the qmail running this list not accept mail from Outlook 
> Express?

See the list archives for details; it's been discussed recently.

Charles
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Thanks for the reply.
 >
 > The message was addressed to "@lake.demon.co.uk". Where do you think
 > qmail should have delivered it? There was no recipient specified.
 >
I specified the recipient in my original message. What I did (maybe this 
was wrong?) was to telnet from another machine on the private network 
and follow the instructions in TEST.receive. If I use 'mail' on the 
other machine, it ends up queued at my ISP.

thanks
Dave





> 
> Where's the "did 0+0+1" or whatever from this log line?  What are the
> contents of your ~alias/.qmail-default?

I'm not sure where the did 0+0+1 is. It wasn't in the log. I don't have 
a /var/qmail/alias/.qmail-default file. I'll look into that.

thanks
Dave






Am Wed, 19 Sep 2001 schrieb Charles Cazabon:
> Ruprecht Helms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > I've looked over the run-script in my
> > var/qmail/supervise/qmail-pop3d-directory but I can't find any
> > character or unprintable character after the backslash "\".
> 
> That's funny, it shows up here with eight spaces after the backslash.
> That's your problem.

Realy realy funny, I'm stupid because I havn't seen it before.

I think that must be very better,

linux:/etc/init.d # ps aux|grep tcpserver
qmaild   25674  0.1  0.3  1292  520 ?        S    19:32   0:00 
/usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -R -l 0 -x /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb -c 20 -u 512 -g 106 0 smtp 
/var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd
root     25683  0.1  0.2  1248  364 ?        S    19:32   0:00 
/usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -R -H -l 0 0 110 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup linux.local 
/bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir
root     25710  0.0  0.4  1488  544 pts/1    S    19:32   0:00 grep tcpserver         

Many thanks for help !

Regards,
Ruprecht





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Thanks you for your reply :)


Henning Brauer wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 14, 2001 at 03:26:57PM -0300, Federico Edelman Anaya wrote:
> > Hi! ... I�m running the follow software's list in a server:
> [...]
> > Now, I will install qmail-ldap in a new server, but I have a problema
> > when I apply the qmail-1.03-qmtpc-mailroutes-1.5.patch. Anybody know
> > what patchs are compatibles with qmail-ldap?
>
> Why don't you use the qmail-ldap list for qmail-ldap specific questions, eh?
>
> > - qmail-1.03-big-dns.patch
>
> included as stated on nrg4.com
>
> > - qmail-1.03-qmtpc-mailroutes-1.5.patch
>
> not included. handwork required, won't apply cleanly (IMHO. didn't try it.)
>
> > - big-concurrency.patch
>
> included as stated on nrg4.com.
> sure you need it? very often useless.
>
> > - big-todo-1.03.patch
>
> sure you need it? almost always useless.
>

Yeah... The server will be heavy-load , incoming concurrent connections (500). I
think what I need this patch... what do you think?



>
> > - badrcptto.patch
>
> included as stated on nrg4.com
>
> > - qmailqueue.patch
>
> I have no idea what this patch does.
>
> > - qmtpd-badmailfrom-1.1.patch
>
> _may_ apply cleanly.
>

Perfect! ... is similar to mailroutes-qmtpc patch?

>
> greetz
>
> Henning
>
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