I gave up on domainkeys signing in my server since my ISP (optonline)
alters the header thus invalidating my domainkeys signature. Both yahoo
and gmail header shows bad domainkeys. I had alot of help from Erik with
this and came up with the solution that the use of smtproutes with
domainkeys does not work, I think it was on wikipedia too.

Thanks,

John.

On Sat, August 5, 2006 11:10 am, Eric \"Shubes\" wrote:
> I've done some testing with yahoo, and this is what I've found:
>
> .) yahoo to toaster seems to work fine with domain keys. I see yahoo's
> signature in the header, and it was accepted ok.
>
> .) toaster directly to yahoo with dk signature works. Message goes into
> bulk yahoo folder, I think because toaster is on a dynamic IP address.
>
> .) toaster using smtproutes (I presume with dk is still signing) via
> outbound.mailhop.org (a dyndns.org service) works. Message goes into
> inbox yahoo folder.
>
> I don't see a way on yahoo to inspect headers, so I'm presuming a little
> here. I have a test in progress with cox.net where I'll be able to
> inspect headers. I expect it will be ok too.
>
> BL, domainkeys work ok with smtproutes (at least through dyndns's
> mailhop). It's still possible that some ISPs *may* screw things up, but
> they shouldn't (in theory).
>
> If anyone would care to explain in more detail why this works, or comes
> across a case where it doesn't, I'm all ears. I'm guessing that DK
> signatures reflect some, but not all header information.
>
> Note, I'm running the current (1.3) toaster on CentOS4.3.
>
> Eric "Shubes" wrote:
>> Ok, I think I'm getting it.
>>
>> My understanding is that the DK signature is generated from the header
>> and the body, so any additions/alterations would invalidate the
>> signature. So I tend to agree with you.
>>
>> If that's the case, though, then what DynDNS told me is wrong. I'm
>> hesitant to question them, as they're pretty sharp with this stuff too.
>>
>> I'm wondering how this *could* work. Maybe certain (routing related)
>> header entries aren't included in the signature. That would almost need
>> to be the case, given server farms and requirements of very large
>> companies. Otherwise, key (especially private) distribution could be a
>> nightmare.
>>
>> Anywise, no sense in speculating. I should be seeing failures in a day
>> or two if this indeed doesn't work. Stay tuned...
>>
>> Erik Espinoza wrote:
>>> DomainKeys only works if your server talks directly to the destination
>>> server. If you force all your mail via your isp server using
>>> smtproutes, then their server will add some headers which will in turn
>>> invalidate all your DomainKey signatures.
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> -Eric 'shubes'
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