Hello again,

Sorry to be a pain, but I've run across a problem and I'm not sure there is
a solution.  One of my test domains has smtp authentication turned on, so
when I configured the routing as we discussed, it works until it hits their
mail server.  It then rejects the mail with the follwing error.

If I can send smtp authentication along with it that would solve the
problem, but I can't see how to do that.  Is it possible or are we stuck if
a domains mail server has smtp authentication on.  Is there any way around
the error as below?

Returned mail error:

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at (Relaying SA server).
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
User and password not set, continuing without authentication.
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 550-(Relaying SA server) [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]:52470 is
currently not permitted to
550-relay through this server. Perhaps you have not logged into the pop/imap
550-server in the last 30 minutes or do not have SMTP Authentication turned
on
550 in your email client.
Giving up on xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 

Thanks Again.
Craig

-----Original Message-----
From: Erik Espinoza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 15 September 2006 11:33
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] 3rd party spamassassin scanning service

Glad you're happy with the result.

Erik

On 9/15/06, Craig Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks Erik, I already had the format for the smtproutes file.  I've
already
> run several tests and it works like a charm.
> Can't believe it's that easy.  Thanks again.  Also in the tests I ran,
I've
> done it both with and without the port referance
> and it works either way.  It probably checks 25 by default, at least
that's
> what I assume it does, but I will include the info in
> wiki.
>
>
> > Will qmail accept the mail even though users don't exist?  If you add
the
> > smtp route for domainx, does qmail just interpret that as "forward all
> mail
> > for domainx to this address and don't check locally?"
>
> >>No, re-read my original e-mail. You must add it to rcpthosts (tells
> >>Qmail to accept for that domain) then add an a line in smtproutes for
> >>Qmail to figure out where the destination truly lies.
>
> Sorry Erik I wasn't very clear here, what I meant was that doing the above
> (your text) tells qmail to just route the mail to
> point x based on smtptroutes and rcpthosts and not worry about local
> authentication/account checkup.  However I've already answered this
question
> myself through the testing.
>
> Thanks again, I'm sure my boss will be pleased.
> Regards
> Craig
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Erik Espinoza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 15 September 2006 11:24
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] 3rd party spamassassin scanning service
>
> > That's excellent thanks.  Are there any pitfalls potential loops etc I
> > should be aware of.
> > I guess if company x sets up a catch all account it will prevent the
> double
> > bounce.  Is there any danger of that double
> > bounce becoming a loop, or possibly leading to our server being listed
as
> a
> > spam source?
>
> Anythings possible. You will be notified of double bounces, otherwise
> you will just do a regular bounce to users.
>
> > Last question, is it really that easy? :-)  If so that is excellent
news,
> > and news that I'm sure will earn me some good points
> > with the boss.  Thanks for that.
>
> Yes, it really is that easy.
>
> > As for the Wiki, I will indeed add the info, is there anything else I
> should
> > include, or is the basic premise, change Mx to point to scanning server,
> add
> > smtproute to receiving server and add domain to rcpthosts?
>
> Ensure that you follow the format of domain:remoteserver:port from
> /var/qmail/doc/README.remote-auth
>
> For example: gmail.com:mail.gmail.com:25
>
> Otherwise this will not work. I just mention it, since the default
> smtproutes doesn't need port.
>
> > Will qmail accept the mail even though users don't exist?  If you add
the
> > smtp route for domainx, does qmail just interpret that as "forward all
> mail
> > for domainx to this address and don't check locally?"
>
> No, re-read my original e-mail. You must add it to rcpthosts (tells
> Qmail to accept for that domain) then add an a line in smtproutes for
> Qmail to figure out where the destination truly lies.
>
> > Thanks again for the replies, this list is the best.
> >
> > Regards
> > Craig
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Erik Espinoza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 15 September 2006 01:47
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] 3rd party spamassassin scanning service
> >
> > The answer is yes. You can scan other domains frm your box.
> >
> > The mx points to you. You put an smtproute that points to their server
> > and you add the domain to rcpthosts.
> >
> > The problem is going to be double bounces. Since your box doesn't have
> > a list of valid users, it will accept any mail addressed to
> > companyx..com. If a [EMAIL PROTECTED] doesn't exist, your box will get
> > a rejection which it will try to send to the sender. Since this is
> > usually spam, the sender address probably won't exist and you will be
> > notified of the transaction.
> >
> > Erik
> >
> > On 9/14/06, Craig Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > I hope this is the right board for this query.  We are using the
latest
> > > Qmailtoaster install on a Fedora core 5 box.
> > > Currently all email domains that we host are very successfully scanned
> by
> > > clamav and spamassassin.  My boss has asked if
> > > we would be able to offer the scanning service to emails that we don't
> > > technically host.
> > >
> > > Now all I can tell him at this point, is we would need to have company
> x's
> > > mx record pointing at our server, but from there
> > > I'm lost.
> > >
> > > Is it possible, to scan company x's mail, (even though we don't hold
> their
> > > domain, or host their email),  and then pass the mail on to their
> servers?
> > > My first instinct was that this should be quiet possible,
unfortunately,
> > I'm
> > > still relatively new to qmail and spamassassin, so I don't know where
to
> > > start.
> > >
> > > Any help you boffins can provide would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Craig
> > >
> > >
> > >
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