Okay, I don't think I understand where the problem lies and what you
propose as the correct behavior. Please clarify.
On a side note, have you switched your users to authenticated smtp?
This should skip all but clamav/attach checks. When I send an e-mail
from my client on port 587 using smtp-auth all I see is this:
Received: by simscan 1.3.1 ppid: 32696, pid: 32701, t: 0.3443s
scanners: attach: 1.3.1 clamav: 0.90.1-exp/m:42/d:2691
Thanks,
Erik
On 3/20/07, Justice London <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
It's actually clients connecting that care about the issue. Any
reasonable SMTP server should try again for at least a day or three and
as long as the server didn't disappear from the internet, will
eventually get the mail through. This is why I brought up the
suggestion, partially to myself, that clients be exempted from simscan
checks.
Justice London
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On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 15:26 -0700, Erik A. Espinoza wrote:
> So what are you proposing Justice? Please help me understand. You
> wanted a soft rejection when spamassassin is down. I am telling you
> that a 451 error is a soft error. I am trying to understand what you
> believe the correct behavior should be?
>
> If we reject with error 451, the sending smtp server should retry
> later. If the sending smtp server generates a bounce, there is nothing
> we can do about it.
>
> Erik
>
> On 3/20/07, Justice London <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I understand that it's a soft reject insofar as that is concerned. The
> > issue seems to come in when something has happened to spamassassin, be
> > it that it crashed, doesn't have room for connections at the time, etc.
> > At that point the 451 error basically becomes a show-stopper. The
> > clients could care less what is happening on the server level, all they
> > care is that they see an error-message. While I would guess it might be
> > possible to setup a rule so that SMTP authenticated clients will not be
> > processed by simscan, that still wouldn't change the fact that behind
> > the scenes spamassassin has broken in such a way that it seems things
> > can't be worked around. Maybe I'm incorrect in my diagnosis, etc.
> >
> > Justice London
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 14:59 -0700, Erik A. Espinoza wrote:
> > > ping!
> > >
> > > On 3/20/07, Erik A. Espinoza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > The error 451 is a soft reject.
> > > >
> > > > There are two types of rejects in smtp, 4xx are temporary rejections
> > > > and should be retried and 5xx are permanent rejections.
> > > >
> > > > Not sure what else you are looking for.
> > > >
> > > > Erik
> > > >
> > > > On 3/20/07, Justice London <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Is there a way to get simscan/spamassassin to do a soft reject of
> > > > > messages, say under high load situations where spamassassin isn't
> > > > > responding properly? I have found that when spamassassin either can't
> > > > > accept a new connection, for whatever reason, that the client is
passed
> > > > > a 451 error right away. Is there a way to instead just have simscan
> > > > > fail the spamassassin test and just pass the message un-checked?
> > > > >
> > > > > Justice London
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >
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