John wrote:
I'm the one that has been trying to get answers as to why the infamous .Spam box gets created when I send the sample spam text to a user with spam detection enabled. Thanks to those who tried to help out. In the end, I had to just keep reading on my own, and reverse engineering Qmailtoaster in order to gain a better understanding of how it all fits together. I've learned that Simscan rejects spam before it ever reaches the Qmail queue for processing. My user's .Spam box never gets created because the mailfilter script doesn't get called unless Simscan passes it through. So the point of the infamous "spambox" is...what, exactly? I.e., Qmailtoaster is working exactly as it was intended after all. But, while I can see the advantage of having multiple spam filters, if users--or System Administrators new to Simscan--want proof that it's not rejecting valid email, the Spam box functionality should work at the door, shouldn't it? Otherwise, the multiple tutorials on "how to create spam folders so users can double-check that nothing useful is being thrown away" seems like a false sense of security.Am I wrong about any of this?
Sorry to jump in so late.....the spambox option was added due to many users requesting it (myself being one of the more vocal ones). Toaster is not, by default, configured to utilize it. This was decided by Nick and Erik. Mark Samples and myself wanted to keep the functionality (it was removed due to a bug in the script) so we got it put back in as an option. If you want to use it, you'll need to change the default in simscan, or it will be deleting it before mailfilter can get it. What I've done is put my scoring at 5.0 (in my local.cf), my mailfilter score at 10.0, and my simscan score at 18.0. That allows me to drop the mail that is blatantly spam, while still training my Bayes for stuff that is spam but still "sneaky". If you leave simscan where it's at, you will never get your Bayes trained unless you physically go in and train it by hand.
Does that make sense?
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