[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not looking for a thanks or anything to be honest. I have a technology consulting company and I use Toaster as a part of my every day business. As such, I try and write useful scripts/additions for things that I think I need and then release them to the public for everyone else as well. It's my way of giving back to the project that helps me with a portion of my business. I think for the most part people just get whatever I out out and use it. It works for them and does what they want so I never get any feedback on them. There's probably a small percentage of those out there that will modify what I write to fit their needs and some of those do return revisions or ask for additional features. Take a look at my backup script for example. It was started by Nate Davis, I continued it and in the notes you'll see that several people have added pieces to it. That's great. Really. I do things for myself and since it may benefit others I make it publicly available. I don't think of everything. FTP the backup file offsite? I never thought of it since I rsync stuff like that in a separate cron job. But it was useful to someone else. The QMT-ISO project was born from a couple things. I was doing some ISO-installation creation work for a client, and it hit me while watching the list that a lot of people (maybe just that week) were having issues installing QMT for various reasons - dependencies, missed steps, mis-configurations, etc. Since I had the framework for a Cent installation ISO I had just did for that client I made a fork and did an installation of QMT tacked onto the end. No big deal. Put 1.0 out there and got a couple people send me some feedback asking for better network features. Okay, that took some research, but I rolled out 1.1 a week or so later. It seems to work for the majority of people since there have been so many installs and hardly any other notes for feedback. I'm assuming that just like tech support: that if no one's talking to you, there's no problems. And I think we all just try and make this as easy as possible. When I first installed QMail (and installed Linux for the first time for the most part) it was not an easy process. 6 hours of patching and compiling software, and most of it didn't make sense to me since I was a wide-eyed Windows admin at the time. But at the end of the day (okay, middle of the day - who gets 8 hour workdays anymore) I had a working email server. Until the next morning. Anyway to make a long story short I found QmailToaster, which Nick had *JUST* taken over from Miguel. Matter of fact I just saw my installation printout from the website for it back when Redhat9 was the newest OS. That took my reinstall time from 6 hours to about 2 (there's coffee breaks in there as well). Now there's more of us that help to try and make this as easy and painless as possible. Erik and I answered probably the bulk of the queries on the list for a long time (Nick got busy with work) - Erik kept the project online while Nick was gone for a while, Eric Shubes helps with a lot of questions and has contributed a lot to the project as a whole, etc. Nate Davis used to have a site that had a lot of "extras" for QMT, and there are a lot of people on the list who have sent in scripts, patches, fixes, etc. I'm sure there's a lot of people I'm forgetting, but those are the ones that jump out at me during my first cup of coffee. So I had the ability to create an ISO that someone can download, burn, and then install a full QMT installation. No guesswork. Every bell and whistle I can think would be useful thrown in. I know I rambled a bit with the history, but the meat of it is that we have moved from a 6-hour install to a 2, and now if you just use the packages on the site you're down to 30-45 minutes or so. The ISO was just meant to make that even easier. A new admin like I was those years ago who has a boss breathing down their neck because their web host decides to take the network offline every day at noon for maintenance now has a way to install a working web/email server without having to do too much work.I get very little input back on any of the scripts/projects I write to be honest. To date there have been 114 successful installs of the QMT-ISO, but I've only gotten 4 emails off-list with any kind of feedback or problem.Do you get the sense it's because most are trying to do it on their own so do the whole install, etc or that folks just don't bother saying anything later? Perhaps a little of both. I'm not sure that people mean not to come back and thank the person who gave them the software or give input as much as we all seem to get sidetracked. Once it's installed, I'm guessing folks don't much think of the ISO anymore since it's then just a QMT install so move on to that type of documentation, help, use, etc.
Thanks for the offer, and I'll keep it in mind. I'm not needing a mirror at this time, but that may change. And I can see (now!) where that was confusing. I just registered qmtiso.com and I'll be setting that up this week to make a differentiation from QTP and QMT-ISO. Thanks. I know my email was long but I tend to ramble in the mornings. It did provide me with some good feedback though and I see how to make the affair a little easier to understand now (new domain name).Which site had you gone to? The wiki or my site? Or did you gotoqtp.qmailtoaster.com?I went to http://qtp.qmailtoaster.com/trac/mainly by me and Eric Shubes, but we've been neglecting it lately) that isjust add-on tools for your installation.When I got there, I didn't see anything on the ISO, just tools.machine just because I have a 3/3 pipe on that machine that's un-metered. Bandwidth still isn't free everywhere so I put the ISO downloads where they will affect me the least financially.I'm guessing I could give you a mirror if you might give me a hand when I get stuck. I badly need reliable, safe, clean email. Don't know if it's worth it to you but it's a shot in the dark :).
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