dnk wrote:
Hey guys,

I have a quick question I am hoping to hit a few of you more
experienced toaster admins up about....

I was wondering what people have seen from experience that the toaster
(stock, running no mods) tends to use a lot of.. IE IO intensive, CPU,
and so on. I have been looking at various specs for the components,
but was hoping for more of an answer based on the combination of the
oh so wonderful toaster!

For example, I am going to be setting up a toaster that is starting
with 50 users, but will be scaling up to 500 within the next two years
(for a co that is about to go into the prodiuction phase in their
industry). They don't see going much past that.

I have been googling, but was more so lookign for an answer based on
day to day user and experience.

Thanks in advance.

Dnk

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Note sure which stats you are looking for , but I have a mail server on a PIII Celeron ~1.3 Ghz with 512MB of ram. I have about 100 users on it. I don't have anything special on the box, besides a few RBL's and some extra sa rules. The box stays about 75% utilized mostly b/c of SA, SA can be very demanding when it gets hit hard. But it doesn't use any swap.

If I were to spec out a new machine, I would go with a machine that could be upgraded easily. So I would start with either a Socket F, (or a socket 940 if you want to save some money). Through some low end opterons in it, with 1 GB of ram (2x512). Ram being as cheap as it it, it wouldn't hurt to do 2x1GB. And Then I would grab 2x36 or 2x74 GB raptors for the main OS, and then probably 2x150 Raptors for mail storage. I have 50 users, and they are barely using 10GB of storage b/c most use pop3. As for the processors and motherboard, I would get a dual socket motherboard, as they are only an extra 75 - 100 bucks, and then get a cheap processor to drop in it. If you go with a socket 940 you can get two single core opterons for about 200 bucks / pr. If you go with Socket F it will be a bit more money, but it will be a Dual Core opteron, so you could only put one in for right now, and have 2 cores, and then move to 4 cores with an easy purchase of another one.

If you decided to go with a dual socket board, and only one cpu, make sure to read up about how it will effect the how memory is configured (normally on a dual socket board you need to have memory must be installed in pairs, one stick on each cpu, not sure about a single cpu as I've never done that)

But I would defiantly go with a semi new arch. that leave you plenty of room to upgrade. I believe I dual socket single core opteron setup on a socket 940 paltform, with a pedastal case, 2GB of ram and the HDD I mentioned would be get well past 250 probably well past 1000 users, and then an upgrade to dual core socket 940 cpus would be much more. I think at about 500 users the bottlenech will start becoming the HDD rather than the cpu. I think such a setup could be had for about $1500 USD. $250 per 150GB raptor, $150 per 74GB raptor. $250 for ram, $250 / pr cpu's, $250 Motherboard, then just a case and powersupply. I would do linux software raid 1 right now.

Hopefully that helps some, and that is what I would do. If you want more information or stats from my machine let me know.

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