folks, correct me if wrong...please!
 
using an spf record could cripple e-mails sent via an isp's smtp server???
as we know, many of them do not allow you to connect to an smtp server
outside of their network...
 
i am guessing the way to do all of this properly is to configure the spf
record, and ensure all users are using the submission port to submit
outgoing e-mail viw the domain's server.  is this correct?  any missing
points?

  _____  

From: Francisco Paco Peralta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 8:27 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] spf-reject


Okay, thanks for the response!

The following is the contents of my named.conf file.  I really don't see
anything with my domain name (velocity-med.com) (see below):.  I guess that
means that I am not the master, which is fine as I will just have to contact
them to have DNS updated with my spf info.

****************************************************
# cat /etc/named.conf
//
// named.conf for Red Hat caching-nameserver
//

options {
        directory "/var/named";
        dump-file "/var/named/data/cache_dump.db";
        statistics-file "/var/named/data/named_stats.txt";
        /*
         * If there is a firewall between you and nameservers you want
         * to talk to, you might need to uncomment the query-source
         * directive below.  Previous versions of BIND always asked
         * questions using port 53, but BIND 8.1 uses an unprivileged
         * port by default.
         */
         // query-source address * port 53;
};

//
// a caching only nameserver config
//
controls {
        inet 127.0.0.1 allow { localhost; } keys { rndckey; };
};

zone "." IN {
        type hint;
        file "named.ca";
};

zone "localdomain" IN {
        type master;
        file "localdomain.zone";
        allow-update { none; };
};

zone "localhost" IN {
        type master;
        file "localhost.zone";
        allow-update { none; };
};

zone "0.0.127.in-addr.arpa" IN {
        type master;
        file "named.local";
        allow-update { none; };
};

zone
"0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.ip6.arpa" IN
{
        type master;
        file "named.ip6.local";
        allow-update { none; };
};

zone "255.in-addr.arpa" IN {
        type master;
        file "named.broadcast";
        allow-update { none; };
};

zone "0.in-addr.arpa" IN {
        type master;
        file "named.zero";
        allow-update { none; };
};

include "/etc/rndc.key";

*******************************************************************


I typed in whois for my domain name and that resulted in (excerpted from
output):

*************************
Name Servers:
   ns.propagation.net
   ns2.propagation.net
   ns3.propagation.net
   ns4.propagation.net
*************************

I will contact my host provider and ask them to fill in the spf info which
after using the online tool looks like below:



v=spf1 a mx ~all


If anything is glowingly wrong please let me know.


Francisco "Paco" Peralta 


----- Original Message ----
From: Tim Mancour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:20:54 AM
Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] spf-reject


If you are the master then there should be a entry in your /etc/named.conf
file - something like this:
 
zone "myexample.com" IN {
        type master;
        file "myexample.com";
        allow-update { none; };
};

There are two other web sites; http://
<http://www.openspf.org/SPF_Record_Syntax> www.dnsstuff.com has a DNSReport
tool for testing your DNS settings and http://www.openspf.org/ explains SPF,
the syntax and even has a wizard to generate SPF records.
 
Regards,
Tim

  _____  

From: Francisco Paco Peralta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:52 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] spf-reject


Just to clarify.  This exercise started out with a person emailing me and
their email not getting through my server because of their spf settings, but
when I checked my own settings it seems I didn't have spf configured
correctly either.

My question with your suggestion is....I am running BIND (named) on my
server and I do see my domain zone but I don't know if it is the "master",
how do I find out?

How do I know if my server is "just a cache server" or not?  Is there a way
to determine that?

 
Francisco "Paco" Peralta 


----- Original Message ----
From: aledr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 10:17:21 PM
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] spf-reject

You should do It in the DNS Server that has your domain zone (master).
Probably your own DNS Server (or is it just a cache server?)

Regards

2007/10/10, Francisco Paco Peralta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> The Toaster is running on a dedicated server with an isp.  Do I have to
put
> the spf record in my server (I have BIND running) or is this something my
> isp needs to do with his DNS server?
>  Francisco "Paco" Peralta
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Tim Mancour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 11:15:19 AM
> Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] spf-reject
>
>
> The following site allows you to test their SPF record against the Email's
> domain - http://www.seoconsultants.com/tools/spf/
> The server's address passes this test so they have probably recently fixed
> there SPF record.
>
>  ________________________________
>
> From: Jake Vickers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 10:48 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] spf-reject
>
>
> Francisco Paco Peralta wrote:
>
> Hello List,
>
> A customer recently informed me that his emails were getting rejected by
my
> server.  I took a look at the smtp logs and found the following (I have
> changed the email address to x's to protect the innocent):
>
> *************************************
> 10-09 15:59:23 tcpserver: status: 1/100
> 10-09 15:59:23 tcpserver: pid 21603 from 208.205.82.13
> 10-09 15:59:23 tcpserver: ok 21603 mail.velocity-med.com:64.182.11.225:25
> :208.205.82.13::58133
> 10-09 15:59:24 CHKUSER accepted sender: from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]::>
> remote <l17xexch3.corp.ad.publix.com:unknown:208.205.82.13> rcpt <> :
sender
> accepted
> 10-09 15:59:24 qmail-smtpd: spf-reject: HELO(l17xexch3.corp.ad.publix.com)
> from 208.205.82.13. MAILFROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 10-09 15:59:24 tcpserver: end 21603 status 0
> 10-09 15:59:24 tcpserver: status: 0/100
> *************************************
>
> Also I did as follows:
> *******************
> # cat /var/qmail/control/spfbehavior
> 3
> *******************
>
> What do I have to do to allow his emails to get through to me?
>
>  Francisco "Paco" Peralta
>
>
> He can either fix his SPF record, or you can lower the criteria on your
> system for everyone by adjusting to a value listed on the wiki:
> http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Spf
>
>
>
--
[ ]'s
Aledr - Alexandre
"OpenSource Solutions for SmallBusiness Problems"

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