Yes, and no.

The checking that's done on the front end checks only the sending server's
IP address. SA RBL checking checks the whole delivery chain.

slamp slamp wrote:
> is there a reason why one would enable RBL checking in spamassassin?
> isn't this done already and wouldn't it be redundant?
> 
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 9:59 PM, Eric Shubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I think I figured out the problem. This problem explains several things,
>>  including why it was necessary to remove spamassassin before upgrading. That
>>  should no longer be the case, and I will be making that change to
>>  qtp-newmodel soon.
>>
>>  The fixed spec with the source package is attached. md5sum is:
>>  e93f7ec0515c6484ff8def5699245c03  spamassassin-toaster-3.2.4-1.3.14.src.rpm
>>
>>  Please give it a shot. Confidence is high that it will work, with and
>>  without qtp-newmodel.
>>
>>  New installs will appreciate that rbl and urisurbl checking is turned on by
>>  default, as in the stock SA package. If you upgrade and would like these
>>  features turned on, simply check the .rpmnew files in the configuration
>>  directory.
>>
>>  P.S. Sorry for the large attachment on the list.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Eric Shubert wrote:
>>  > I'll be dang. I just recreated it on my test box (w/ same perl and COS4.6 
>> as
>>  > Helmut). Strange thing is, I already have 
>> spamassassin-toaster-3.2.4-1.3.13
>>  > installed on that box. Go figure.
>>  >
>>  > Let me see if I can figure out what's going on now. From what I can tell 
>> so
>>  > far, the /etc/ directory isn't created by makeinstall after all. Stay 
>> tuned.
>>  >
>>  > Helmut Fritz wrote:
>>  >> The report is nice because of you all asking for the details...  I just 
>> try
>>  >> to not have folks need to repeat themselves.  Hopefully I can remember 
>> all
>>  >> this stuff if needed again!  :)
>>  >>
>>  >> I have recently (last week and this weekend) upgraded the entire box to 
>> prep
>>  >> to qmt upgrade...
>>  >>
>>  >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# rpm -qa | grep ^perl-
>>  >> perl-HTML-Tagset-3.03-30
>>  >> perl-XML-Parser-2.34-5
>>  >> perl-Digest-HMAC-1.01-13
>>  >> perl-Crypt-OpenSSL-RSA-0.21-1.2.el4.rf
>>  >> perl-HTML-Parser-3.35-6
>>  >> perl-libwww-perl-5.79-5
>>  >> perl-5.8.5-36.el4_5.2
>>  >> perl-Net-DNS-0.48-2.el4
>>  >> perl-suidperl-5.8.5-36.el4_5.2
>>  >> perl-Digest-SHA1-2.07-5
>>  >> perl-Time-HiRes-1.55-3
>>  >> perl-Filter-1.30-6
>>  >> perl-DBI-1.40-8
>>  >> perl-URI-1.30-4
>>  >> perl-DateManip-5.42a-3
>>  >> perl-DBD-MySQL-2.9004-3.1.centos4
>>  >>
>>  >> -----Original Message-----
>>  >> From: Eric Shubert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>  >> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 2:06 PM
>>  >> To: [email protected]
>>  >> Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] timeline to update spamassassin-toaster-3.2.4
>>  >>
>>  >> That's a nice report, Helmut.
>>  >>
>>  >> So the problem appears to be that
>>  >> /var/tmp/spamassassin-toaster-root/etc/mail/ directory doesn't exist.
>>  >>
>>  >> Looking at the .spec file, this should be created by %makeinstall. So on 
>> we
>>  >> go to the Makefile.
>>  >>
>>  >> The Makefile is generated by MakeMaker, so we need to look at 
>> Makefile.PL.
>>  >>
>>  >> While I'm thinking of it, what version of perl (et al) are you running?
>>  >> # rpm -qa | grep ^perl-
>>  >>
>>  >> Helmut Fritz wrote:
>>  >>> Ah well, I thought it was worth a try.  Upgraded qtp-plus to 0.3.0,
>>  >>> still
>>  >>> get:
>>  >>>
>>  >>> + install -m 0644 /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES/qmailtoaster.local.cf.bz2
>>  >>> /var/tmp/spamassassin-toaster-root/etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf.bz2
>>  >>> install: cannot create regular file
>>  >>> `/var/tmp/spamassassin-toaster-root/etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf.bz2
>>  >>> ': No such file or directory
>>  >>> error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.29617 (%install)
>>  >>>
>>  >>>
>>  >>> RPM build errors:
>>  >>>     Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.29617 (%install)
>>  >>>
>>  >>> I find no mail directory in
>>  >>> /mnt/qtp-sandbox/var/tmp/spamassassin-toaster-root/etc/ as reported
>>  >> before.
>>  >>> I do find
>>  >> /mnt/qtp-sandbox/usr/src/redhat/SOURCES/qmailtoaster.local.cf.bz2.
>>  >>> (is the script looking outside of the sandbox for some reason?)
>>  >>>
>>  >>> MD5Sum from file in /usr/src/qtp-upgrade/SRPMS
>>  >>>
>>  >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] SRPMS]# md5sum 
>> spamassassin-toaster-3.2.4-1.3.13.src.rpm
>>  >>> 3d0936eeccebc3476910330d60a42b93
>>  >>> spamassassin-toaster-3.2.4-1.3.13.src.rpm
>>  >>>
>>  >>> And that files contents:
>>  >>>
>>  >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] SRPMS]# rpm -qpl spamassassin-toaster*.src.rpm
>>  >>> Mail-SpamAssassin-3.2.4.tar.bz2
>>  >>> filter-requires-spamassassin.sh
>>  >>> qmailtoaster.local.cf.bz2
>>  >>> qmailtoaster.v310.pre.bz2
>>  >>> spamassassin-toaster.spec
>>  >>> supervise.spamd.log.run.bz2
>>  >>> supervise.spamd.run.bz2
>>  >>>
>>  >>> Last few bits of the log file:
>>  >>>
>>  >>> /usr/bin/sa-learnX' = X ']'
>>  >>> + find
>>  >>> /var/tmp/spamassassin-toaster-root/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/Mai
>>  >>> l
>>  >>> /var/tmp/spamassassin-toaster-root/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/spa
>>  >>> massas
>>  >>> sin-run.pod -type d -print
>>  >>> + sed '[EMAIL PROTECTED]/var/tmp/[EMAIL PROTECTED] @g'
>>  >>> + rm -f
>>  >>> + /var/tmp/spamassassin-toaster-root/etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf
>>  >>> + rm -f
>>  >>> + /var/tmp/spamassassin-toaster-root/etc/mail/spamassassin/init.pre
>>  >>> + install -d /var/tmp/spamassassin-toaster-root/etc
>>  >>> + install -d /var/tmp/spamassassin-toaster-root/etc/cron.hourly
>>  >>> + install -d
>>  >>> + /var/tmp/spamassassin-toaster-root/var/qmail/supervise/spamd
>>  >>> + install -d
>>  >>> /var/tmp/spamassassin-toaster-root/var/qmail/supervise/spamd/log
>>  >>> + install -d
>>  >>> /var/tmp/spamassassin-toaster-root/var/qmail/supervise/spamd/supervise
>>  >>> + install -d /var/tmp/spamassassin-toaster-root/var/log/qmail
>>  >>> + install -d /var/tmp/spamassassin-toaster-root/var/log/qmail/spamd
>>  >>> + rm -f
>>  >>> + /var/tmp/spamassassin-toaster-root/etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf
>>  >>> + rm -f
>>  >>> + /var/tmp/spamassassin-toaster-root/etc/mail/spamassassin/v310.pre
>>  >>> + install -m 0644 /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES/qmailtoaster.local.cf.bz2
>>  >>> /var/tmp/spamassassin-toaster-root/etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf.bz2
>>  >>> install: cannot create regular file
>>  >>> `/var/tmp/spamassassin-toaster-root/etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf.bz2
>>  >>> ': No such file or directory
>>  >>> error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.29617 (%install)
>>  >>>
>>  >>>
>>  >>> RPM build errors:
>>  >>>     Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.29617 (%install)
>>  >>>
>>  >>> -----Original Message-----
>>  >>> From: Jake Vickers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>  >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:30 AM
>>  >>> To: [email protected]
>>  >>> Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] timeline to update
>>  >>> spamassassin-toaster-3.2.4
>>  >>>
>>  >>> Helmut Fritz wrote:
>>  >>>> Which leads me to another thought.  My qmt-plus is from qmt-iso 1.2.
>>  >>>> perhaps I should get the latest qmt-plus and try with that?
>>  >>>>
>>  >>> QTP has a yum repo:
>>  >>> http://qtp.qmailtoaster.com/download/repo/qmailtoaster-plus.repo-0.1-1
>>  >>> .noarc
>>  >>> h.rpm
>>  >>> Install that, then just "yum upgrade qmailtoaster-plus" whenever
>>  >>> there's a new version.
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