Thanks for the quick answer.
The common problem at both scenarios is that I don't know what is the content of the spam send from the network. I don't know how to separate the outgoing spam from the incoming spam. For example if a spam is arriving at the "office" mailbox, that spam is forwarded to several other mailboxes. This generates send traffic. How can I separate the forwarded spam from the generated/send spam? If I could separate the generated spam, I could eliminate the scenario when the server is sending the spam. The guys from the blacklist have the content of the spam sent from my IP, but they would not share it with me Not even the header. The other problem is that I don't have IP-s in the /var/log/qmail/send log and in /var/log/qmail/smtp is too much data.

Istvan

Jake Vickers wrote:
Istvan Köpe wrote:
Hello,

I have been listed in a blacklist and I can't delist myself, because as they say there is spam coming from my IP address. The mail server is also a router.

Not the best scenario, but I understand it can sometimes be unavoidable.



Scenario 1.
I have no clue how to catch the infected machine. Theoretically there should not be any zombie machine because I have up-to-date antivirus on every station. But what if even like that I have a zombie machine? Theoretically if I control the router I should be able to filter all the traffic, but I don't know what application to use, what method to use and what am I looking for?
Any suggestions?

You could force all traffic yo port 25 to your server using the firewall. This may make some of your users unhappy, but would force all outgoing email to be routed through your mail server. You would redirect any traffic on port 25 (and possibly 587) to your mail server's IP address instead. Depending on your environment, you may even have a machine you don't know about sending the spam. I worked for Time Warner for a couple years and we would make weekly sweeps of the offices (15 in all, all across town) looking for wireless signals that were not supposed to be there and for unknown MAC addresses. You would be surprised how many employees would bring an acces s point into the office so that they could get a wireless signal outside (they liked to sit outside at the picnic tables and work). We also had a couple younger employees that would bring their laptops from home and hide them under desks/plants/whatever so they could get faster downloads on their torrents (I ran the Roadrunner installation department - we had a **BIG** pipe in the main office). We found laptops connected for torrenting that were dripping with malware. you could also use wireshark to monitor your network for traffic outgoing on port 25 and see if you could glean the MAC/IP of the offending machine (which may or may not help, depending on if someone hid a laptop under an office plant).


Scenario 2.
Somebody cracked a password of a user and is using the account to send spam. I checked the logs, but there is so much spam traffic, that I don't know what to look for. I don't know exactly how the logs work, but I couldn't find anything interesting. Theoretically in /var/log/qmail/send there should be all the outgoing mails, but I found a lot of spam like subjects here. I presume that those are related to the aliases and forwards. Is this correct?
Please give me a clue what to look for? And how to look for?


You should just see outgoing messages from authenticated users in the send and submission logs. If you're seeing spam there, then check the IP as that will probably be your offending machine. You are correct in that it may be aliases or forwards. You could turn on spam scanning for local addresses (the instructions should be in the wiki). You could also enable taps and tap your domain and look at the emails to see where the spam is coming from. Not sure what country you're in, so this may not be legal in your country.

Is there other possible scenarios?


Yeah, like I mentioned above with users bringing their own equipment in. Without a witch hunt it's hard to track that sort of stuff unless you keep EXTREMELY meticilous logs on things like what computers are plugged into what ports on switches, where the wall plates are, etc.

Good luck!


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