I could be reading it wrong, but here's the cwatchall entry on the
sending server.

delivery 47: deferral:
User_and_password_not_set,_continuing_without_authentication./64.168.
70.133_does_not_like_recipient./Remote_host_said:_421_Refused._Your_reverse_DNS_entry_does_not_resolve./Giving_up_on_64.168.70
.133./


Eric Shubert wrote:
> Which spamdyke rejection message are you getting?
> Check the spamdyke documentation for the rejection you're seeing.
>
> My understanding of spamdyke's reject-unresolvable-rdns rule is the
> same as what Michael described, that the rDNS pointer needs to point
> to an A record that resolves to something, but the resolved A record
> doesn't necessarily need to match.
>
> Maxwell Smart wrote:
>> Michael,
>>
>> While you are right, in most cases they will either delegate or
>> change it.  This is a bit trickier.  I am using rack space that I am
>> not paying for,  a friend has a quarter rack and is only using a 1U
>> server.  So I don't know the contact person and really don't want to
>> be  a PITA right off the bat.
>>
>> They do in fact have rDNS setup.  I guess then the question becomes,
>> does Spamdyke strictly enforce the rDNS entry matching origination? 
>> If it does how do you set it up to only check if it has one whether
>> it matches or not to accept mail?  The mail server that's rejecting
>> the mail is one of my own servers at my home location, so it may
>> simply be that I have the security too tight and need to adjust it
>> accordingly.
>> CJ
>>
>> Michael Colvin wrote:
>>> Ummmm...  They should be.  The should do one or the other.  If they
>>> won't
>>> delegate the IP space to you so that you can create your own ptr for
>>> that
>>> IP, then they should do it for you.
>>> If they won't do either, it's likely because they don't know how to,
>>> which
>>> means they likely don't know what they are doing, and I would run as
>>> fast as
>>> you can to another colo.
>>>
>>> I've never had a problem getting IP address that are assigned to me,
>>> delegated to me.
>>>
>>> Also, usually, most IP's simply need the PTR to resolve to
>>> SOMETHING.  It
>>> doesn't need to your mail server, per se, but it should resolve to
>>> something...So, if they don't want to delegate it, they can at least
>>> create
>>> a PTR for it that resolves to something.
>>>
>>> You may also want to make sure that there is an a record for
>>> whatever they
>>> do point it to.  IE, if they use "mail.domain.com" as the PTR, make
>>> sure
>>> that mail.domain.com resolves to something as well, even if the IP's
>>> don't
>>> match.
>>>
>>>  
>>> Michael J. Colvin
>>> NorCal Internet Services
>>> www.norcalisp.com
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Maxwell Smart [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 9:41 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Re: rdns
>>>>
>>>> That's what I thought.  I had this problem once before.  I am not
>>>> sure I
>>>> am going to be able to get the delegation this time.  At my primary
>>>> location I have my own delegation and that works fine, but they may
>>>> not
>>>> be so keen at this colocation.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your insight.
>>>>
>>>> CJ
>>>>
>>>> Eric Shubert wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>> The ISP, as owner of the IP address they've given you to use,
>>>>> controls
>>>>> the rDNS entry. You need to get them to change it to your host name.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are rare situations where an ISP might delegate rDNS entries to
>>>>> a customer, but I wouldn't count on that. I've also heard of
>>>>> situations where the customer can use a web app to change their rDNS
>>>>> values. You'll need to contact your ISP and see how they handle it.
>>>>> You can simply tell them what you want it to be, and they should
>>>>> change it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maxwell Smart wrote:
>>>>>     
>>>>>> OK I know that, but that doesn't resolve my problem.  Without being
>>>>>> able to setup an rDNS entry for this IP address my server mail gets
>>>>>> rejected with a non matching rDNS entry.  How is this resolved?  I
>>>>>> can't be the only one that has a server at a co location facility
>>>>>> where I don't control the DNS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eric Shubert wrote:
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>> Maxwell Smart wrote:
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>> I have searched, but really don't know how to ask this
>>>>>>>> question.  I
>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>> most on the list have been confronted with this.  If  anyone could
>>>>>>>> point
>>>>>>>> me in the direction of the answer that would be sufficient.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a qmailtoaster that I just put into a co location facility.
>>>>>>>>             
>>>> It
>>>>   
>>>>>>>> has rDNS pointed to it's domain name, as it's supposed to.  How
>>>>>>>> do I
>>>>>>>> setup my rDNS entries for mail clients on the server at that
>>>>>>>> location?  Is there a way to use a PTR record that indicates that
>>>>>>>> it's supposed to
>>>>>>>> resolve to colo.example.com? What's the correct method of
>>>>>>>> addressing this?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> CJ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> There's only one rDNS entry for a given IP address. That entry
>>>>>>> should be a ptr record that points to (some other) type A record
>>>>>>> that hopefully resolves to the same address which the rDNS entry
>>>>>>> has.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For example:
>>>>>>> shu...@edwin:~$ dig doris.shubes.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ; <<>> DiG 9.4.2-P2 <<>> doris.shubes.net
>>>>>>> ;; global options:  printcmd
>>>>>>> ;; Got answer:
>>>>>>> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 4288
>>>>>>> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0,
>>>>>>> ADDITIONAL: 0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
>>>>>>> ;doris.shubes.net.        IN    A
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
>>>>>>> doris.shubes.net.    592    IN    A    174.17.83.232
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ;; Query time: 0 msec
>>>>>>> ;; SERVER: 192.168.70.253#53(192.168.70.253)
>>>>>>> ;; WHEN: Tue Nov  3 19:55:59 2009
>>>>>>> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 50
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> shu...@edwin:~$ dig -x 174.17.83.232
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ; <<>> DiG 9.4.2-P2 <<>> -x 174.17.83.232
>>>>>>> ;; global options:  printcmd
>>>>>>> ;; Got answer:
>>>>>>> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 38386
>>>>>>> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0,
>>>>>>> ADDITIONAL: 0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
>>>>>>> ;232.83.17.174.in-addr.arpa.    IN    PTR
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
>>>>>>> 232.83.17.174.in-addr.arpa. 43031 IN    PTR
>>>>>>> 174-17-83-232.phnx.qwest.net.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ;; Query time: 0 msec
>>>>>>> ;; SERVER: 192.168.70.253#53(192.168.70.253)
>>>>>>> ;; WHEN: Tue Nov  3 19:56:38 2009
>>>>>>> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 86
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> shu...@edwin:~$ dig 174-17-83-232.phnx.qwest.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ; <<>> DiG 9.4.2-P2 <<>> 174-17-83-232.phnx.qwest.net
>>>>>>> ;; global options:  printcmd
>>>>>>> ;; Got answer:
>>>>>>> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 59486
>>>>>>> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0,
>>>>>>> ADDITIONAL: 0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
>>>>>>> ;174-17-83-232.phnx.qwest.net.    IN    A
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
>>>>>>> 174-17-83-232.phnx.qwest.net. 43010 IN    A    174.17.83.232
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ;; Query time: 0 msec
>>>>>>> ;; SERVER: 192.168.70.253#53(192.168.70.253)
>>>>>>> ;; WHEN: Tue Nov  3 19:57:18 2009
>>>>>>> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 62
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> shu...@edwin:~$
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>       
>>>> -- 
>>>> Cecil Yother, Jr. "cj"
>>>> cj's
>>>> 2318 Clement Ave
>>>> Alameda, CA  94501
>>>>
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