Eric S., Thanks, I thought I was already using spamdyke and found, upon further investigation and after utilizing the submission port, that the '../smtp/run' file was no longer a link to '../smtp/run.spamdyke' but was recreated and using the blacklists file. This '../smtp/run' file had a creation date that corresponds to the day I upgraded the Toaster, so, I think, it was recreated that day. When I upgraded spamdyke, today, the link to the 'run.spamdyke' file was recreated. So, you would recommend implementing spamdyke by linking the '../submission/run' to '../submission/run.spamdyke' similar to what is being done in the SMTP supervise directory?
By the way, what is the purpose of the submission server? Eric B. -----Original Message----- From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 2:55 PM To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: verizon and sprint Glad to hear that, Eric. I'm not certain how the mobile phones handle submissions, so I was guessing to some degree. Looks now as though you had the old RBL problem. This happened as well with users submitting from dynamic IP addresses, which is quite common. There are 2 general solutions. One is to use port 587 for submission, and the other is to use spamdyke. Either one works for bypassing RBLs for authenticated sessions. Personally, I recommend using both. :) -- -Eric 'shubes' Eric Broch wrote: > Helmut, > > Thanks, the submission port works great! > > Eric B. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Helmut Fritz [mailto:hel...@phpwebservices.com] > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 11:47 AM > To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com > Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: verizon and sprint > > Seems likely it may be the standard ISP ploy of not allowing smtp on port 25 > so they can control email going out of their domain. I would (and do) use > submission port and see if that works for you. Hope that helps. > > Helmut > > P.S. It seems their play did not work too well if they are blacklisted! > Maybe someone reported them for sending out their adverts! :) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eric Broch [mailto:ebr...@whitehorsetc.com] > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:41 AM > To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com > Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: verizon and sprint > > Eric S., > > I may be wrong about an intermediary server, but I 'deduced' that there was > an intermediary because of different phone settings I tried. I have the > Toaster set up with TLS and authentication. When the cell phone users sets > up TLS connection with 'server' the 'server' replies "TLS is not set up on > the server." I also have the server set up for SMTP authentication. When the > cell phone users set up authentication with the 'server' the 'server' > replies, "Authentication not set up on the server." I must note now that on > a P.C. using outlook these setting work fine. So, when the cell phone users > remove authentication and TLS, the Qmail Toaster SMTP log yields the > following message: > > > @400000004bd5b01817238fa4 tcpserver: status: 1/100 @400000004bd5b0181724dbac > tcpserver: pid 28673 from 70.198.221.51 > @400000004bd5b0181727ae54 tcpserver: ok 28673 > poweredgeT1052.whitehorsetc.com:192.168.9.2:25 :70.198.221.51::33650 > @400000004bd5b018174f3f3c rblsmtpd: 70.198.221.51 pid 28673: 451 > http://www.spamhaus.org/query/bl?ip=70.198.221.51 > @400000004bd5b01918b6d204 tcpserver: end 28673 status 0 > @400000004bd5b01918b6e1a4 tcpserver: status: 0/100 > > Doing a whois 70.198.221.51 yields SprintPC. > > After clearing the blacklist file of '-r zen.spamhaus.org' I can receive > email from the cell phone. I was wondering if there were a way to leave > zen.spamhaus.org in the blacklist file and allow relay from the Sprint IP > address. > > Eric B. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eric Shubert [mailto:e...@shubes.net] > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 9:57 AM > To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com > Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: verizon and sprint > > Eric Broch wrote: >> Hello list, >> >> I have 2 users sending email from cell phones and using their Qmail >> Toasters as outgoing mail servers. It seems that somehow the cell >> phone company, Verizon and Sprint in these cases, is somehow >> implementing an intermediary server between the Toaster and the cell >> phone. This intermediary server is blacklisted on zen.spamhaus.org. Is >> there a way to un-blacklist these servers on the Qmail Toaster without >> removing zen.spamhaus.org from the blacklist file? >> >> Eric >> > > If there's an intermediary server, then they're not using their QMT as the > outgoing server. Email would only reach the QMT host if the message was > destined to a domain on the QMT host. It this correct? If not, then I'm not > understanding the problem correctly. > > If you're not using spamdyke, I don't know of a way around this problem. > > If you're using spamdyke, you can whitelist the Verizon and Sprint servers > (I would whitelist their rDNS names) to bypass RBL (as well as all other) > filters. > > -- > -Eric 'shubes' > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. 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