Hi Tonino, Sorry if the thread seems to be talking about different issues, but it is primarily a cosmetic issue but my clients are insistent on this perceived isolation, the logs and the outbound queues are also split by client domain after application of an in house patch. To this end there is a level of separation of outbound mail. It is sent on the IP, using the correct EHLO string, but inbound is still using a common SMTP Greeting Banner despite being contacted on the correct IPs.
I cannot use a common outbound IP as this mixes the reputation of the sending domains into one based upon said IP, and my clients are using this service for transactional mailings so virtually demand independent reputation. The inbound server is primarily cosmetic, but is checked by the tool that they are using for verification, and is being flagged as a warning for not being compliant with RFC2821 specifically point 4.3.1 by issuing a SMTP greeting that corresponds to the FQDN of the host which is being connected to. I hope this clears up my dilemma and doesn't cause any confusion, Fin -----Original Message----- From: Tonix (Antonio Nati) [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 28 October 2010 18:11 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] smtp greeting banner frustration Edward, I'm just trying to understand others needs. As I am an ISP, I could be I'm missing something important for my customers too. How is it possible to speak about isolation level, when all logs are mixed together? The same about sending queue. All customers are using a single output queue, so how can we speak about isolation when a huge sending of one customer can afflict all others? Am I missing something? It it only a "cosmetic" issue? Cheers, Tonino Il 28/10/2010 17:54, Tonix (Antonio Nati) ha scritto: > Il 28/10/2010 15:58, Edward Finlayson ha scritto: >> Hi Martin, >> >> Thanks for your response. >> >> Unfortunately, I'm unable to have common mx servers. My clients have >> to have >> 'isolation' from one another and insist that all their 'servers' are >> within >> their own namespace / IP range. This means that I have to have >> inbound SMTP >> servers (mx) within the same domain as everything else and that the >> IPs used >> for the servers resolve in both directions. This in turn means, of >> course, >> that the IPs have to be dedicated to purpose. The knock on effect is >> that I >> have to have the SMTP greeting banner for a given IP address match the >> domain to which it is associated in order to comply fully with the >> RFCs and >> best practice. >> > > I don't understand such problem. Unless customers want specific logs, > because each one of them want to access his own logs as they like, > there is no reason to have different MX and different senders. > Could again make sense if you give different bandwith to different IPs. > > If you have different IP, but unique log, same shared bandwith, it has > no sense. > > If you want different IP, different logs, dedicated bandwith, you must > setup one qmail environment for each customer. > > Regards, > > Tonino > > >> Thanks for your suggestion though, in most other cases I would >> completely >> agree, >> >> Fin >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Martin Waschbüsch [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: 28 October 2010 14:08 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] smtp greeting banner frustration >> >> Well, it is perfectly ok to have the same FQDN listed as MX for several >> domains. the MX's FQDN does not have to be of the same domain. >> So, you could greet everyone with the same, valid, FQDN and never worry >> about the other stuff? >> >> Martin >> >> -- >> Martin Waschbüsch >> IT-Dienstleistungen >> Lautensackstr. 16 >> 80687 München >> >> Telefon: +49 89 57005708 >> Fax: +49 89 57868023 >> Mobil: +49 170 2189794 >> [email protected] >> http://martin.waschbuesch.de >> >> Am 28.10.2010 um 14:25 schrieb Edward Finlayson: >> >>> Hi Tony, >>> >>> This would be true for a single domain, however my setup is more >>> like that >>> below: >>> >>> 127.0.1.1 mail.domina1.com >>> 127.0.1.2 smtp.domain2.co.uk >>> 127.0.8.30 mail.domain30.net >>> 127.0.8.90 mail.domain90.com >>> 127.2.1.112 mx1.domain112.org >>> >>> Obviously, I've obfuscated the real addresses and domains but the >>> layout >>> above is representative. >>> >>> Thanks again Tony, >>> >>> Fin >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Tony White [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: 28 October 2010 13:17 >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] smtp greeting banner frustration >>> >>> My first reply does not seem to have arrive so I will try again... >>> >>> If I understand your question it should be as easy as >>> editing the smtpgreeting file to reflect the rDNS value. >>> >>> ie edit /var/qmail.control/smtpgreeting to >>> mail.domain.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 28/10/2010 10:31 PM, Anil Aliyan wrote: >>>> This happens because you smtp service is listening on all ip >>>> addresses. >> If >>> you want to send separate greeting message >>>> individual domains you'll have to configure multiples instances of >>>> smtp >>> services for all the domains on your server. I am >>>> not an expert but this my own understanding, I could be wrong. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Anil Aliyan >>>> >>>> *From:*Edward Finlayson [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> *Sent:* 28 October 2010 16:02 >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* [qmailtoaster] smtp greeting banner frustration >>>> >>>> Hi Everyone, >>>> >>>> I was wondering if any list member would be able to help. >>>> >>>> I have a number of domains, on separate IP addresses but whenever a >> server >>> connects to the server it receives the same >>>> SMTP greeting: >>>> >>>> 220 *cpa2.localdomain* - Welcome to Qmail Toaster Ver. 1.3 SMTP Server >>> ESMTP >>>> Whereas the hostname should only be the one which reverse resolves >>>> in DNS >>> i.e. mail.domain.com >>>> Does anyone know how I would go about enabling this compliance with >> RFC821 >>> 4.3 and RFC2821 4.3.1 >>>> Any help will be gratefully received, >>>> >>>> Fin >>>> >>> -- >>> best wishes >>> Tony White >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> ----- >>> Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group >>> (www.vickersconsulting.com) >>> Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and >>> installations. >>> If you need professional help with your setup, contact them >>> today! >>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> ----- >>> Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and >>> packages. >>> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> [email protected] >>> For additional commands, e-mail: >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> ----- >>> Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group >> (www.vickersconsulting.com) >>> Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and >>> installations. >>> If you need professional help with your setup, contact them >>> today! >>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> ----- >>> Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and >> packages. >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> [email protected] >>> For additional commands, e-mail: >> [email protected] >>> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> ----- >> Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group >> (www.vickersconsulting.com) >> Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and >> installations. >> If you need professional help with your setup, contact them >> today! >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> ----- >> Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and >> packages. >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> [email protected] >> For additional commands, e-mail: >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- >> >> Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group >> (www.vickersconsulting.com) >> Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and >> installations. >> If you need professional help with your setup, contact them >> today! >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- >> >> Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and >> packages. >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> [email protected] >> For additional commands, e-mail: >> [email protected] >> >> >> > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------ in...@zioni Interazioni di Antonio Nati http://www.interazioni.it [email protected] ------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. 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