Rajesh,
I understand your dilemma. It's sad that hotmail has this problem. Such things happen sometimes though. I guess the good news is that you have other servers that are not having this problem.

Carlos points out two ways of handling the relay server, but I'm not sure that the alternatives are very clear.

The gist of it is that you don't want to make the 2nd server an open relay, which means that you need to set up a trust mechanism between the 2 servers. This trust can be based on an IP address, or it can be based on authentication credentials (login/password).

My preference is to use authentication. In this case, the first server simply has:
hotmail.com:<server2.name.or.ip>:587 <RelayAccount> <RelayPassword>
in its smtproutes file. On server2, you can then create the RelayAccount in some existing domain on server2 using qmailadmin. You need to include the entire account name (including @domain.com) in <RelayAccount>.

If you choose to trust via IP address, you need to add an entry with the IP address of the 1st server in the 2nd server's tcp.smtp file, and do "qmailctl cdb" to make it effective. If you're using spamdyke, you should also whitelist the IP address of the 1st server in the whitelist_ip file. I think this method is a little more cumbersome, and not quite as secure (which I realize is debatable).

We should probably have this written up on the wiki. Would someone like to handle this? TIA.

--
-Eric 'shubes'


On 11/23/2011 05:18 AM, Carlos Herrera Polo wrote:
In the second server you have to add in tcpserver file the first
server ip for relay.... If in the second server you have spamdyke then
change in the first server smtproute file the port 25 to 587 and
authenticate....


2011/11/23, Rajesh M<[email protected]>:


On 11/22/2011 11:18 AM, Rajesh M wrote:
hi

due to some reason hotmail has gone crazy and blocking us continuously
for
a month. they claim that some spam email originated thru our server.
however there own SNDS shows us as all green.

for the past 10 days i have put hotmail.com in badmailto so that non of
my
users can send to hotmail.com

we have gone thru send logs and nowhere is hotmail seen

still their support keep parroting the same typical answer.

changing my dns settings means a lot of problem

a lot of hardship to all my clients

so i need to know if there is some way by which i can change my OUTGOING
SMTP server ip address while my users continue to smtp authenicate using
the same email server settings.

rajesh





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If you have another server that's sending ok, you could use that one as
a smarthost to relay email to hotmail. Simply use the smtproutes file in
this case to route hotmail messages via your other server. Use of
account name and password is recommended for relays.

Alternatively, provided you have an additional IP address available, I
*think* you could add a 2nd IP address to your QMT host's nic, then
change your routing table to use the alias device/ip as the gateway. I
haven't done this myself, but I *think* it would work. Someone please
correct me if I'm wrong about this.

The best solution of course would be to get things working with hotmail.
I realize that can be difficult at best given their support. You may
need to set up recordio on a session to see what's really going on with
your smtp sessions with them. Provided that your SPF and DK/DKIM isn't
misconfigured, you might have a look at your settings related to
qmail-remote (man qmail-remote), such as helohost and your tls
clientcert.pem. I haven't heard of tls being a problem, but you might
try turning tls off for hotmail and see if that helps.

--
-Eric 'shubes'


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eric

i have 2 additional servers using qmailtoaster all with the same data
center and i could use any of those.

my helo, spf, reverse dns records are all correct
we continuously monitor our servers for outgoing spam -- there has been
cases but we quickly stop those.
my server ip is not listed in any spamdatabase and every server in the
world accepts my email.

i have joined the snds and junk email reporting program
SNDS says - blocked manually or for spamming
while their junk email reporting gives me all green reports
so basically they contradict themselves
their support people give typical answers like trained parrots
on googling i found that there are 100s of others suffering due to their
so called "SmartScreen filter"

so i want to route only emails addressed to hotmail.com thru another server

can you please guide me on this ie what should i enter in smtproutes ?

let us say if i put in the smtproute file
hotmail.com:ip.add.other.server

all the emails to hotmail.com will be routed to the other server

now what should i put in the other server so that it accepts the email and
fowards it to hotmail ?

thanks for all your help.

rajesh





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