So I have decided to try something a little different. I have my ham and spam accounts on the server. On the client using outlook I have these two accounts added as IMAP accounts, and can then just drag and drop the SPAM and HAM to the inbox of the appropriate account within outlook. easy for users to do. Then I run my script to have sa-learn go through the cur and new folders and then delete the emails. I include only somewhat technically savvy users and have instructed them to only use the accounts for putting up SPAM and HAM - no folder creation, putting emails anywhere else, etc. of course it will bear some watching but this should be relatively easy and effective.
Anyone see anything wrong with this method? -----Original Message----- From: Helmut Fritz [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:29 AM To: '[email protected] Subject: RE: [qmailtoaster] Re: sa-learn-attach Thx Eric. Just more questions now! Do you think there is a downside to forwarding the emails as an attachment? Or maybe sa-learn can be called within that attached script (i.e. modify it) instead of duplicating its code? Can sa-learn read an outlook .msg file or an exchange folder directly? The other issue is that the two servers are not on the same internal network, although I could make them that way. Or perhaps do other things to move the files to the qmt server. But the answer to the question above might demonstrate this is not useful? I have also seen reference to a mime defang useage with sa-learn and a script that uses some other attachment 'detaching' method as well. -----Original Message----- From: Eric Shubert [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 10:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: sa-learn-attach On 12/20/2011 10:57 PM, Helmut Fritz wrote: > And a little background on this - my server is both a mail server and > acts as a smart host front end for an exchange server. So I cannot > use the typical method of scanning users junk email folders, I can > only have known spams forwarded back to a spam mailbox and false positives to a ham mailbox. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Helmut Fritz [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 8:13 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [qmailtoaster] sa-learn-attach > > Any of you ever heard of this script? Would it work to learn on > attachments vs actual emails? This could be very handy for training > SpamAssassin if it would work, or at least easier on users. I am > definitely not a coder/scripter, so wondering if anyone can take a > look. Or is there a built in method for doing this in the newer versions of SpamAssassin? Thx! > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------- I haven't heard of it, but it appears to be what you're looking for. Personally, I would prefer to have it simply strip the attachment from the input stream and pipe the result to the real sa-learn, instead of duplicating sa-learn's code. Also, this method has the drawback of getting users trained to use "Forward as attachment". Other than that, I'd say it's worth a try. I wonder if you could create a shared folder on the exchange server for spam/ham, and have people move/copy their messages there. Then you could make the QMT a samba client to the exchange server, mount the shares as cifs, and run a sa-learn script that way. Here's the script I use with a shared folder to learn ham and spam, fwiw: #!/bin/sh ##################################################################### # learn and remove spam and ham in shared folders ##################################################################### # shubes 3/26/08 - created ##################################################################### learndir="/home/vpopmail/domains/shubes.net/sa-learn" hambox=.Ham spambox=.Spam do_the_learning(){ learnas=$1 maildir=$2 shopt -s extglob for spamfile in `find $maildir/+(cur|new)/* 2>/dev/null`; do sudo -u vpopmail -H sa-learn --$learnas $spamfile rc=$? if [ $? != "0" ]; then echo "sa-learn failed, rc=$rc, spamfile=$spamfile" exit $rc fi rm $spamfile done } do_the_learning ham "$learndir/$hambox" do_the_learning spam "$learndir/$spambox" exit 0 -- -Eric 'shubes' ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Qmailtoaster is sponsored by Vickers Consulting Group (www.vickersconsulting.com) Vickers Consulting Group offers Qmailtoaster support and installations. If you need professional help with your setup, contact them today! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please visit qmailtoaster.com for the latest news, updates, and packages. To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
