I was going to write that RR would be of no help, then it dawned on me.

You could set up a single submission server, then smtproute all outbound messages from it to a DNS round robin set of sending agent machines. Virtual machines would work nicely for this.

Goes to show, there's more than one way to do things. :)

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-Eric 'shubes'

On 05/21/2012 03:37 PM, Cecil Yother, Jr. wrote:
Have you tried a DNS round robin solution?

On 05/21/2012 03:06 PM, [email protected] wrote:
Hello Eric, thanks for your reply.

We do not have spam issues with our customers, what we have is a high
volume due to large clients number.

All meassures to void spam sending are taken, but the blocks are being
generated for large volume send from just a bunch of IPs (5) which are
the number of mta's qmt in our cluster. As all you may know, having 9k
clients with at least 4 email accounts per client and a limit of 350
per hour per account, it is still a big traffic generated.

So I am looking forward to have better service on delivery having in
mind that custmer number is growing fast and anti-spam messures do its
job preatty good. But of the lack of IP on each mta in cluster, it is
affecting delivery.

Hope someone around may share a solution.


Thanks.



On lun 21/05/12 4:55 PM , Eric Shubert [email protected] sent:

    I don't know if rotating addresses is the best solution or not. It's
    certainly not practical for small QMT installations.

    I think in many (if not all or most) of these cases, the user's
    password
    has been compromised. This is especially likely if it's possible to
    configure a client insecurely (plain text password with no TLS/SSL).
    I've seen this happen on more than one occasion, on a small domain.
    Password sniffing does happen.

    First step is to ensure that clients cannot attempt to
    authenticate with
    clear text passwords. This can be enforced with dovecot, but we don't
    have a way yet to enforce it on the sending/smtp side. I'm hopeful
    that
    Sam will get this feature built into spamdyke in the near future.

    Another good defensive weapon is a script I came across on the
    spamdyke
    list today, and hope to make available in some form with QTP in the
    future. It's a script that periodically checks the logs for accounts
    which have sent more messages in a given interval than some allowed
    limit. When it finds such an account, it changes the password,
    removes
    messages from that account still in the queue, and notifies the
    postmaster with an email. I think this is very practical, because
    passwords do become compromised on occasion, even with full
    encryption
    (human action). The script is written in python, and will need a
    little
    tweaking for the QMT environment, as it's presently written to scan a
    spamdyke log (the author wasn't using the submission port at all). I
    think it'd be better to scan the send log if that's feasible.
    Anywise, I
    think this approach is promising.

    If anyone has any thoughts on this, please chime in. It's in
    everyone's
    interest to be protecting our public IP addresses so they don't get
    blacklisted.

    Thanks.

    --
    -Eric 'shubes'

    On 05/21/2012 01:42 PM, [email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:

    > Hello everyone

    >

    >

    > I am the owner of a growing hosting enterprise in my country
    (Perú), and

    > we are facing big rise on our client number.

    >

    > As an efect of this we are seeying a rise in mail outbound in our

    > servers. Even thoug we put limits to hourly sending, having more
    than 9k

    > clients, all delivering through the same cluster, it lacks of

    > efectiveness because each server in cluster uses only one ip for
    sending

    > tasks. We are now seeying blocking issues because of the many clents

    > generated traffic.

    >

    > We talked to some people at godaddy and hostgator, as we know
    they use a

    > cluster system that includes on each server a list of IPs that
    rotates

    > in a random fashion, so even with high demand quality service on mail

    > delivery from client accounts is always achieved.

    >

    > I would like to ask for some guidance and help to this comunity
    on how

    > can we could implement such solution to rotate in a random or
    other way

    > the IPs for sending clients mails.

    >

    > I hope you people can see my situation and can help me with this. We

    > used to work with exim, but since we changed to QMT it was the best

    > desition we ever made on this matters. Now we need to push it to
    a next

    > level.

    >

    >

    >

    > Thanks a lot.

    >

    >




    
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