I like. I have a germ of an idea.  Will post it soon. But it means revisiting 
my pet project of last year ie: many_tables.  We wanted to move vpopmail in 
that direction in any case.  I think it's there on the list archives

Eric Shubert <[email protected]> wrote:

>Not a dumb question at all.
>
>That would appear to be the simplest way to set up a
>single/consolidated 
>outbound host (which did not occur to me). For alternative security,
>you 
>might set up a relay account and use smtp-auth with the relay. This 
>would be simpler and a little more efficient than using a VPN. If not 
>using a VPN, you could restrict connections to specific IPs for 
>additional security.
>
>While this configuration is simple to implement and provides a single 
>outbound exit point, I'm not sure that it provides much of a solution
>to 
>the problem of "experiencing high queue". All of the submissions would 
>still travel through each of the 6 current servers. The only difference
>
>is that, with presumably a fast network connection, the emails will
>make 
>a rapid exit to the smarthost (which isn't very "smart" without an 
>ability to authenticate accounts).
>
>I think a better solution would be to make the smarthost able to 
>authenticate users, so that submissions can be made directly to the 
>smarthost, eliminating the need for these messages to hit the 6
>existing 
>servers at all.
>
>I think that centralizing all of the domains (and accounts) into a 
>single vpopmail database is in order here. This could be done with a 
>(virtual) authentication server, which would service all of the 6 
>existing servers (and future smarthost), replacing the 6 mysql
>instances 
>with a single mysql vpopmail database on the authentication server. If 
>you don't have a virtual platform to use to implement an authentication
>
>(mysql) host, you could consolidate all of the vpopmail databases 
>together on the (future) smarthost outbound server. This could be done 
>initially, then changing submissions over to the smarthost should be a 
>simple DNS change (provided your users' clients use a separate DNS name
>
>for submissions).
>
>I'm liking this solution the more I think of it. Of course I could be 
>missing something. ;)
>
>Anyone care to share thoughts about this?
>
>Thanks.
>
>-- 
>-Eric 'shubes'
>
>On 09/26/2013 09:24 PM, Bharath Chari wrote:
>> Let me start off with a rather dumb question.
>> Why can't these six servers be configured to use the 7th as a
>smarthost.
>> The seventh (out going smtp) would restrict incoming connections to
>the
>> ips of these 6 servers. Add the ip of the 7th to the spf dns record
>for
>> each of the domains and you are good to go.
>> I do this on occasion except i add one more layer for security. I
>create
>> a vpn between my servers and the smarthost. The smarthost listens
>only
>> on the private vpn interface and forwards via the public ip.
>>
>> Bharath
>>
>> Eric Shubert <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>     On 09/26/2013 06:25 PM, Fernando Endangan wrote:
>>
>>         Dear Everyone,
>>
>>         Has anyone tried setting up a separate SMTP server to manage
>>         outgoing
>>         traffic.
>>
>>         Let me draw this in your mind. I currently have 6 mail
>servers
>>         with 300
>>         domains hosted on each server averaging 20 email accounts per
>>         domain and
>>         using qmail but experiencing high queue due to outgoing smtp
>>         connection
>>         (no spams) all emails are legitimate. Majority of our clients
>are
>>         freight forwarders, remittance, multimedia company, etc.
>Basically,
>>         everyone maximizes the use of their email including
>attachments,
>>         marketing ads, and several mail activity. What I am thinking
>is
>>         to setup
>>         a separate SMTP where all my 6 mail servers connect to send
>only
>>         messages and not receive.
>>
>>         Is my setup possible? Anyone kind enough to provide
>>         documentation of my
>>         stated dilemma? I would appreciate any kind response from you
>qmail
>>         experts.
>>
>>         Thanks in advance.
>>
>>        
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>>
>>
>>     That's quite a good idea actually. My intention for the future of
>QMT is
>>     to make separate role-oriented servers such as this (a submission
>>     server), which will be easily combined with others to make up
>what we
>>     presently know as QMT.
>>
>>     In order to do this, simply build a new (virtual) qmt host. You
>can omit
>>     the packages you won't be needing such as squirrelmail, courier,
>>     maildrop, etc.
>>
>>     Once you have the server built, modify the
>>     /home/vpopmail/etc/vpopmail.mysql file to point to the host with
>your
>>     mysql database, and ... oops. You have 6 of these, don't you? So
>it's
>>     not going to be quite so easy.
>>
>>     I'm thinking that you might want to set up a vpopmail/mysql
>>     database on
>>     the submission server which contains account information for all
>of the
>>     domains. You might be able to use mysql's replication feature to
>make
>>     this database a secondary to all 6 of your existing vpopmail
>databases,
>>     but I don't know if that's possible, or if you might run into any
>>     clashing of keys between the databases. There shouldn't be, but I
>>     haven't looked at that schema in a while.
>>
>>     I'm going to ask for other opinions at this point. Bharath, you
>here?
>>     Anyone else have an idea about this? Please chime in. :)
>>
>>     Interesting project, Fernando. I hope we can help you out with
>it.
>>
>>
>> Mobile mail. Apologies for bad formatting and typos.
>
>
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