If someone has hacked a vpopmail account password and is using it to
spam, you can check the send, smtp, or submission logs and it will
expose the account. I did have this problem in the past.
It may very well be a PC in your network with malware on it.

Eric B.


On 2/16/2014 10:20 AM, Wicus Roets wrote:
> I do understand that qmail is not the reason the IP is being blacklisted.
>
> In favour of myself and some else referring to this mail list in future,
> would you mind elaborating on qmail-remote throttling? (until the
> "offending/spamming user" feature gets implemented)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Shubert [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: 16 February 2014 07:03 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [qmailtoaster] Re: Spamming via valid vpopmail account
>
> On 02/16/2014 09:27 AM, Wicus Roets wrote:
>> Thanks Eric.
>>
>> Steps I took upon noticing:
>>
>> 1.) qmailctl stop
>> 2.)qmHandle -S"YOUR BLAH BLAH..."
>> 3.) Reviewed bounce messages and deleted them with qmHandle upon review
>>      qmail-qstat
>>      qmail-qread
>>      qmHandle -mxxx  quick check on mail message as listed with
>> qmail-qread
>>      qmHandle -dxxx  deletes relevant message
>> 4.) Changed user's password
>> 5.) qmailctl start
> I'd do #4 first, but given that qmail is stopped I suppose it doesn't really
> matter.
>
>> It's been under control for the last 6 hours ...
> Crossing fingers...
>
>> Exactly the same scenario played out on Thursday.
> Hmmm. Makes one wonder how PW was compromised. I haven't actually heard of
> such a thing, but it wouldn't be impossible for some malware to send
> credentials to a spammer somewhere. If this happens again for the same
> user's account, I'd keep their ability to submit disabled until they've
> cleaned their computer of malware (or preferrably obtained a clean
> computer). Don't forget to change that password once again after they've got
> their computer cleaned up.
>
>> I'm pondering a script or option to recompile, whereby a specific 
>> user's account will be disabled (be it via vmoduser) when 
>> "sender_was_rejected" or related messages is received from an external 
>> mail server, rather than blocking the static public IP of the entire box.
> Keep in mind, the blocking of your static public IP address is something
> that you don't have direct control of. IOW, QMT isn't doing that blocking.
>
> The problem here is that account credentials are sometimes compromised. 
> Having things set up so passwords are never sent in clear text is something
> that should always be done. However, this problem will always be present to
> some extent, as there is always the human factor. Bottom line, passwords
> will occasionally fall into the hands of spammers.
>
> I'm convinced that the best solution to this problem is to have a throttle
> on qmail-remote which limits the rate at which emails are sent. 
> This would likely keep QMT's IP from being blacklisted, as spam would be
> queued up, but would not flood any recipients. It'd be relatively easy to
> detect when this happens (queue has a lot of messages over a period of
> time), and the offending account could have submission rights suspended
> automatically. It'd also be relatively easy to script a process which cleans
> the queue before all the messages (eventually) are sent out.
>
> I've written some specs for such a feature, but haven't begun writing it
> yet. If some of you would like to sponsor work on this, it could be
> developed in short order. If anyone's interested in sponsoring this
> development so that it happens sooner than later, please contact me off list
> and we'll see what we can do.
>
>> Though I can help myself quite well around a console, scripting at 
>> present is slightly out of my reach ...
>>
> Your help is none the less appreciated.
> Thanks Wicus.
>
> --
> -Eric 'shubes'
>
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