It seems that much of my difficulty was my fault - and I had to edit

/var/qmailcontrol
me
defaulthost
defaultdomain

/etc/sysconfig/network
etc/hosts


I had diffrent host names and diff domains


once i had it all "make sense"
same domain - everywhere on the machine
same hostName - everywhere on the machine

i was able to send , recv etc

i am very very close to having a new mailserver

cheers

js

and THANKS  to ALL who have assisted with wisdom
[ golly , i have learned much .... and I still have MUCH to learn ..;) ]


On 11/17/2014 2:58 PM, Eric Broch wrote:
Jim,

1) data-wranglers.com and mailhost.data-wranglers.com point to different
IP Addresses. See below:

# nslookup data-wranglers.com
Server:         192.168.9.2
Address:        192.168.9.2#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:   data-wranglers.com
Address: 50.63.202.34
-------------------------------------------------------------
# nslookup mailhost.data-wranglers.com
Server:         192.168.9.2
Address:        192.168.9.2#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:   mailhost.data-wranglers.com
Address: 168.215.62.221

2) Your ISP is blocking TLS

3) Turn down your spamdyke greeting delay (greeting-delay-secs). Mine is
set to '1'.

4) Reverse look ups are usually a problem with your ISP. My ISP
automatically sets mine.

5) "dns     data-wranglers.com     SOA Expire Value out of recommended
range " Not sure about this error.

EricB




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