this shouldn't be happening at all if you've got the QMT installed
correctly with CHKUSER (and it is on). These types of messages should be
rejected BEFORE the queue--e.g. at the initial SMTP communication. Years
ago, qmail USED TO reject messages post-queue with bounces, but that
behavior was effectively and correctly modified by patch add-ons years
ago. In this day and age, no mail server should ever reject messages
post-queue with additional bounce messages. It's just improper and
effectively turns your mail server into a spam server itself as you will
be sending messages to what are invariably going to be forged return
headers.

Additionally, if you've got the Spamdyke add-on installed, you will also
have additional options on before-the-queue rejections.

Tim


On Fri, October 9, 2015 4:45 am, Rajesh M wrote:
> dan
>
> sorry to contradict but in my personal opinion this is not a good idea
> .... if a the sender makes a mistake then my customer will not receive the
> email and nobody will know.
>
> rajesh
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dan McAllister [mailto:[email protected]]
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Thu, 8 Oct 2015 15:01:57 -0400
> Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] queue is flooding user
>
> I suspect the queue messages that are stacking up are for the delivery
> of the bounce -- which is also likely going to a non-existent user or
> domain.
>
> My STRONGEST suggestion is to NOT BOUNCE messages that are directed to
> non-existent users!!!
> To do this, cd to the top of the domain in vpopmail (e.g.:
> /home/vpopmail/domains/<domain.com>)
> Then examine the file .qmail-default.
> You want the last word to be "delete" not "bounce-no-mailbox"
>
> Dan
>
>
> On 10/8/2015 2:51 PM, Eric Broch wrote:
>> No one should be able to get a message in your queue to a non-existent
>> user unless they're using an account that they've hacked.
>> Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
>>
>> On 10/8/2015 12:37 PM, Eric Broch wrote:
>>> Has someone hacked a password?
>>>
>>> On 10/8/2015 11:59 AM, Rajesh M wrote:
>>>> spammer is emailing a non existent user on my server.
>>>>
>>>> qmailtoaster is accepting the email and then trying to respond back
>>>>
>>>> my queue is flooding because ot this
>>>>
>>>> should'nt chkuser be directly bouncing the email during smtp
>>>> transaction time when email id is not present on the server ?
>>>>
>>>> pl see below the message trapped in my queue. kindly let me know how i
>>>> could prevent these
>>>>
>>>> thanks for your help
>>>>
>>>> rajesh
>>>>
>>>> log files
>>>>
>>>> @400000005616a19e352eb154 info msg 1840641: bytes 60095
>>>> from<[email protected]>  qp 40028 uid 89
>>>> @400000005616a19e36a305bc starting delivery 1066: msg 1840641 to
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> @400000005616a19e36a328e4 status: local 1/200 remote 60/60
>>>> @400000005616a19e374ed234 delivery 1066: failure:
>>>> Sorry,_no_mailbox_here_by_that_name._(#5.1.1)/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> sample bounce message
>>>>
>>>> Received: (qmail 5240 invoked for bounce); 8 Oct 2015 17:23:48 -0000
>>>> Date: 8 Oct 2015 17:23:48 -0000
>>>> From:[email protected]
>>>> To:[email protected]
>>>> Subject: failure notice
>>>>
>>>> Hi. This is the qmail-send program at ns1.bizmailserver.net.
>>>> I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following
>>>> addresses.
>>>> This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
>>>>
>>>> <[email protected]>:
>>>> Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1)
>>>>
>>>> --- Below this line is a copy of the message.
>>>>
>>>> Return-Path:<[email protected]>
>>>> Received: (qmail 3803 invoked by uid 89); 8 Oct 2015 17:19:29 -0000
>>>> Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 3636, pid: 3743, t: 2.9901s
>>>>           scanners: attach: 1.4.0 clamav: 0.98.6/m: spam: 3.3.2
>>>> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on
>>>>          ns1.bizmailserver.net
>>>> X-Spam-Level:
>>>> X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=T_FROM_12LTRDOM
>>>>          autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2
>>>> Received: from unknown (HELO redbrokerage.com.inbound10.mxlogicmx.net)
>>>> (187.234.134.4)
>>>>    by ns1.bizmailserver.net with SMTP; 8 Oct 2015 17:19:26 -0000
>>>> Received-SPF: unknown (ns1.bizmailserver.net: domain at listrak does
>>>> not designate permitted sender hosts)
>>>> Received: from redbrokerage.com.inbound10.mxlogicmx.net
>>>> (redbrokerage.com.inbound10.mxlogicmx.net [208.65.144.3])
>>>>          by redbrokerage.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id
>>>> yZSt49AdKNeARht0
>>>>          for<[email protected]>; Thu, 08 Oct 2015 13:19:29
>>>> -0400 (EDT)
>>>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>>>> Message-ID:<[email protected]>
>>>> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2015 13:15:29 -0400
>>>> From: "Noemie Considine"<[email protected]>
>>>> To:[email protected]
>>>> Subject: contract
>>>> Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
>>>>   boundary="------------070709070301020805080405"
>>>> --------------070709070301020805080405
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>>>
>>>> Dear customer,
>>>>
>>>> I'm sending you a new contract of the project (Private collateral
>>>> statement of account)
>>>>
>>>> --------------070709070301020805080405
>>>> Content-Type: application/zip; name="Private collateral statement of
>>>> account.zip"
>>>> Content-Description: "Private collateral statement of account.doc"
>>>> Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Private collateral
>>>> statement of account.zip"; size=43024;
>>>>          creation-date="Thu, 08 Oct 2015 13:16:29 -0400";
>>>>          modification-date="Thu, 08 Oct 2015 13:17:29 -0400"
>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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