here are some steps to do

1) enable more debugs 
:allow,SIMSCAN_DEBUG=“5” to /etc/tcprules.d/tcp.smtp 
then make sure you run the 
qmailctl cdb
Reloaded /etc/tcprules.d/tcp.smtp
Reloaded /var/qmail/control/badmimetypes.cdb
Reloaded /var/qmail/control/badloadertypes.cdb
Reloaded /var/qmail/control/simversions.cdb
Reloaded /var/qmail/control/simcontrol.cdb

I would also check if you have something in the queue

qmHandle -L 
will show if you do. I would probably remove what’s not valide with the 
qmHandle or all with qmHandle -D :) careful since that will delete all in the 
queue so some valid msg will be erased. 

then once you enable the logs I have mine in the diff folder under the 
/var/log/qmail and I normally check both the submission and the send 
here is what mine looks like:

# ls -al
total 28
drwxr-x---   7 qmaill qmail 4096 Sep 14  2019 .
drwxr-xr-x. 23 root   root  4096 Aug 16 03:26 ..
drwxr-x---   2 qmaill qmail 4096 Aug 15 10:38 send
drwxr-x---   2 qmaill qmail 4096 Aug 15 21:01 smtp
drwxr-x---   2 qmaill qmail 4096 Aug 16 10:02 smtps
drwxr-x---   2 qmaill qmail 4096 Aug  5 05:44 submission
drwx------   2 qmaill qmail 4096 Aug  5 05:44 vpopmaild
so less, tail you pick which one to use. I have also used multitail which makes 
life much easier ;) 

Remo
 

> On Aug 16, 2020, at 1:46 PM, Charles Hockenbarger <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> As I understand the forwards setup in qmailadmin those are in the database, 
> right?
> 
> The address that was compromised hasn't sent any email since the password 
> change. 
> 
> I hadn't thought about looking at qmail-inject. I'll dig into watching that 
> part of the process. 
> 
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> On Aug 16, 2020, at 3:14 PM, Eric Broch <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> How do you have your forwards set up?
> 
> Is there any mail in your queue?
> 
> If someone hacked an account on your server with forwards to gmail accounts 
> they aren't limited to just these forwards, they also have the option in the 
> email client to add gmail accounts in the "To:" field of the email they're 
> sending, thus bounces from gmail accounts that aren't in your forwards file.
> 
> Also, qmail-inject puts mail in the queue and you'll see it in the send log.
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/16/2020 10:05 AM, Chas Hockenbarger wrote: 
>> I'm hoping someone has encountered this weird behavior or something like it 
>> before and can point me down a path, because all my research has turned up 
>> nothing so far.
>> 
>>  
>> I had an email account recently get breached due to a re-used password, and 
>> that account was used to send a bunch of spam out from a server I help 
>> manage.  We changed the password on the account as soon as we found it 
>> happening and the outbound flood stopped.
>> 
>>  
>> Shortly after that, however, I started seeing a very, very strange behavior. 
>>  Sometimes, and I haven’t yet been able to identify the trigger or pattern, 
>> when users on this server send email to a forward that contains around 50 or 
>> so email addresses (they use it like a private distribution list) they will 
>> get anywhere from 1-10 bounces from Gmail.  Not every email sent to the 
>> forward has this happen, and not even every email from a particular user.
>> 
>>  
>> The outbound spamming caused the server’s reputation to go in the tank with 
>> Google, and if it weren’t for that, I wouldn’t know this was happening, 
>> because they get the bounces from Gmail accounts that absolutely ARE NOT in 
>> the forward or part of the email chain AT ALL.
>> 
>>  
>> I’m kind of freaking out here because while I haven’t found a breach of the 
>> actual server / OS, this feels like someone has been able to inject 
>> something somewhere into my server that I simply can’t find.  It is 
>> especially troubling because a user who is not on this domain, but is part 
>> of the group and therefore uses the forward from time to time, sent 
>> something to the forward today and got Gmail bounces.   
>> 
>>  
>> I don’t see anything in the send log that shows the server even trying to 
>> send to Gmail, which only adds to the ghost story.
>> 
>>  
>> Any ideas, paths to go down, anything would be greatly appreciated here.  
>> I’m about to just rebuild the whole thing from scratch on a new VM, but if 
>> I’m overlooking something simple don’t want to put the users through that.
>> 
>>  
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>>  
>> Chas

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