Hi Eric,
  Not fully operational yet. Still working from a page
I found last week. Everything seems to install but
I want to compare it to QMT after it is operational.
Again, I will keep the list updated.

best wishes
  Tony White

On 11/12/20 8:42 am, Eric Broch wrote:

Do you have a qmailtoaster version installed on FreeBSD?

On 12/10/2020 2:41 PM, Tony White wrote:
Hi Eric,
  As to debian you can install the software called alien.
This will convert .rpm to .deb at the command line. I have
used alien and it does convert your packages properly. Thee
only items to check would be scripting.
  I will keep plodding on with my FreeBSD as it appears to
stable and viable and does not have systemd.

best wishes
  Tony White

On 11/12/20 2:35 am, Eric Broch wrote:

/Fellow QMT enthusiasts:
/

/I became concerned about the future of CentOS a week or so ago ///(not a premonition just my natural paranoia) /prior to their announcement two days back and visited centos.org to relieve my fears. I was confident at that point that having gotten QMT/CentOS 8 ready I was good to go for ~10 years. My confidence MAY have been hasty. I'm still not sure what drawbacks 'stream' is going to bring, if any, and like Angus am apprehensive. It's supposed to be an intermediate environment between Fedora and RHEL. In my opinion, to release CentOS 8 and then move it from downstream to upstream after people have already migrated is short-sighted at the very least, and its name Community Enterprise OS (8) is now a misnomer. Living in somewhat of a cocoon, I was completely unaware that RH "joined" CentOS. I've heard some say that we've been freeloading off CentOS for years and now it's time to pay up. Never mind that a free kernel is used and we actually test the software and report bugs. That said, I have REALLY enjoyed using CentOS since the beginning.
/

/That said, having a look at the old spec files from *-toaster designation days when we built the QMT for specific platforms, Fedora, was among them along with Suse, Mandrake, so, at the beginning QMT was used in a non-Enterprise environment. Anyway...
/

/Personally, I'm interested in both Debian and FreeBSD and would like to go back halfway to multi-platform builds while keeping the current QMT/CentOS 8 offering. This would mitigate the problems, if there are any, we are seeing now (hopefully). I guess it just depends on when (or if) the mega-corps buy up all of the Linux distributions and hang us all out to dry. Given the Felliniesque nature of the world today nothing would surprise me anymore.
/

/One advantage of having a ports like mail server is the ability, if one is inclined to dig a little beyond binary installs, to make changes on the fly without having to wait for packages from the repo./

/I've tried to install FreeBSD, although somewhat half-heartedly, on Proxmox serveral times with no success. If anyone has any hints I'm all ears...just my 2 cents./

/So, if anyone is working on installing QMT on another platform please keep us apprised of your successes. If you feel like writing it up, I'll post it to the web site.
/

/I'll be looking into converting to *.deb packages (like rpm's, binary ease of install) in some way (I tried using alien...on the website) which can be used on Ubuntu and Debian Linux. Back to work for me...
/

/Eric B.
/

On 12/9/2020 7:31 PM, Tony White wrote:
Hi all,
  Anyone interested in BSD either Free or Open?
I am starting to work on building a FreeBSD version
of this for myself. Would like to know if anyone
else is interested.

best wishes
  Tony White

On 10/12/20 6:49 am, Unai Rodriguez wrote:
Debian!

-- unai

On Wed, Dec 9, 2020, at 8:20 PM, Boheme wrote:
I’ve been meaning to learn to compile all the source for Ubuntu for a
while. This may be the kick in the pants I needed.

-Sent from my Pip-Boy 3000

On 10/12/2020, at 12:50 AM, Angus McIntyre <an...@pobox.com> wrote:

Does anyone have any thoughts on the likely future of qmailtoaster given the 
new plans for CentOS?

(See https://centos.org/distro-faq/ for more details)

I'd never actually heard of CentOS Stream before today, but having just painfully built a working toaster on top of CentOS 8, I'm a little apprehensive about the impact of the proposed changes.

Comments?

Angus


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