It's sad (hey! I love Centos too), but let me transcript an Eric's email from Dec 10 2020 to answer "why move away from centos"
Diego
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| Asunto: | Re: [qmailtoaster] Future of qmailtoaster on CentOS? |
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| Fecha: | Thu, 10 Dec 2020 08:35:01 -0700 |
| De: | Eric Broch <[email protected]> |
| Responder a: | [email protected] |
| Para: | [email protected] |
Fellow QMT enthusiasts:
I became concerned about the future of CentOS a week or so ago (not a premonition just my natural paranoia) prior to their announcement two days back and visited centos.org to relieve my fears. I was confident at that point that having gotten QMT/CentOS 8 ready I was good to go for ~10 years. My confidence MAY have been hasty. I'm still not sure what drawbacks 'stream' is going to bring, if any, and like Angus am apprehensive. It's supposed to be an intermediate environment between Fedora and RHEL. In my opinion, to release CentOS 8 and then move it from downstream to upstream after people have already migrated is short-sighted at the very least, and its name Community Enterprise OS (8) is now a misnomer. Living in somewhat of a cocoon, I was completely unaware that RH "joined" CentOS. I've heard some say that we've been freeloading off CentOS for years and now it's time to pay up. Never mind that a free kernel is used and we actually test the software and report bugs. That said, I have REALLY enjoyed using CentOS since the beginning.
That said, having a look at the old spec files from *-toaster designation days when we built the QMT for specific platforms, Fedora, was among them along with Suse, Mandrake, so, at the beginning QMT was used in a non-Enterprise environment. Anyway...
Personally, I'm interested in both Debian and FreeBSD and would like to go back halfway to multi-platform builds while keeping the current QMT/CentOS 8 offering. This would mitigate the problems, if there are any, we are seeing now (hopefully). I guess it just depends on when (or if) the mega-corps buy up all of the Linux distributions and hang us all out to dry. Given the Felliniesque nature of the world today nothing would surprise me anymore.
One advantage of having a ports like mail server is the ability, if one is inclined to dig a little beyond binary installs, to make changes on the fly without having to wait for packages from the repo.
I've tried to install FreeBSD, although somewhat half-heartedly, on Proxmox serveral times with no success. If anyone has any hints I'm all ears...just my 2 cents.
So, if anyone is working on installing QMT on another platform please keep us apprised of your successes. If you feel like writing it up, I'll post it to the web site.
I'll be looking into converting to *.deb packages (like rpm's, binary ease of install) in some way (I tried using alien...on the website) which can be used on Ubuntu and Debian Linux. Back to work for me...
Eric B.
it's probably discussed before, but why it moved away from centos to Springdale or Rocky?--------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
I also need to make a fresh install. So that is why I'm curious.
For server stuff - always would go for ECC if you can and it's reasonably busy machine. It doesn't have to cost arm and a leg since there is aftermarket hw to snatch with reasonable prices. It's really complicated to debug a server with memory problems because it might not crash the whole OS, just crashing processes at random.
As Linus Torvalds has said - we never know how many bad kernel dumps have been submitted and there is nothing wrong with the code, just bad memory in the system.
Also if failure occures, you will know where and what dimm is broken. And if you are lucky it get's corrected by ECC on the fly.
Janno
On 20.01.2022 18:36, Angus McIntyre wrote:
My impression is that Rocky is more widely supported than Springdale by
VM providers like Digital Ocean and Linode. But I think they also allow
you to provide your own images for initializing VMs, so maybe that's not
an obstacle so much as an extra step.
Angus
Remo wrote on 1/20/22 10:46 AM:
I like rocky Linux.---------------------------------------------------------------------
Remo
Il giorno 20 gen 2022, alle ore 03:06, Andreas Galatis <[email protected]> ha scritto:
Hi all,
I use the qmail-toaster since many years and are very glad with it. The system is very stable, secure and configurable with the features we need.
I need to install a new Server for qmail and migrate the installation from CentOS7.
What is the preferred OS, (Rocky or Springdale)
Is there a big advantage of ECC-Ram (with XEON) over Standard Ram (with Core7)?
Thanks in advance
Iodok
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