That's why the property system got reimplemented. With the 0.6.x codebase 
there was no possibility to get back to the user value. The property system 
nows brings in multi-value support for properties. 

cheers,
  Alex

On Wednesday 04 April 2007 Jim Hunter wrote:
> To me, keeping the user value is the same as not doing your step #3. In any
> event, that is the way it should work and I have loved what I have seen of
> .7 and can't wait for it to be finished. I especially love the new syntax!
>
> Jim Hunter
> D4PHP.ORG
>
> On 4/4/07, Alex Back <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi Jim,
> >
> > I think the problem is not that the value falls back to its default. The
> > current behaviour of qooxdoo is that the property should fall back to its
> > defaultvalue rather than using the property value of the original
> > appearance.
> >
> > I think the main problem here is that the value defined by the user is
> > overwritten. Exactly this shortcoming will be eliminated with the next
> > qooxdoo release (0.7). This release will support a new property system
> > which
> > will preserve the user value (if there is one defined) rather than just
> > resetting the value to its default.
> >
> > Take a look at the news post (
> > http://news.qooxdoo.org/another-exciting-technical-preview ) about the
> > alpha2
> > release to get more information about the the new property system.
> >
> > cheers,
> >   Alex
> >
> > On Wednesday 04 April 2007 Jim Hunter wrote:
> > > Why step #3? This looks like an unnecessary thing to do. Is there a
> >
> > reason
> >
> > > for it? I would expect that only the items in the new appearance would
> >
> > get
> >
> > > change, especially if you make the change after some time and the
> > > widget may be completely changed or moves to a new location or ???
> > > There are
> >
> > lots
> >
> > > of things that might change in a widget that would get undone with step
> >
> > #3l
> >
> > > Unless there is some compelling reason why it is done, I would think
> >
> > this
> >
> > > step should be skipped. And I think this was discussed before...
> > >
> > > Jim Hunter
> > > D4PHP.ORG
> > >
> > > On 4/4/07, Alex Back <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Hi Ralf,
> > > >
> > > > calling setAppearance() resets those properties to its defaultValue
> >
> > which
> >
> > > > are
> > > > defined in the original appearance but not in the new appearance.
> > > > Let me explain this mechanism with your label example.
> > > >
> > > > The original "label"-appearance in the Classic appearance-theme
> >
> > defines
> >
> > > > wrap
> > > > as "false". Your new "link-ref" appearance does not define the wrap
> > > > property.
> > > > The defaultValue for the "wrap"-property is "true".
> > > >
> > > > In this case the call of "setAppearance" leads to following
> > > > behaviour: 1. get the property values from the new appearance
> > > > (->"link-ref") 2. if an original appearance exists, get also the
> > > > original values (-> "label")
> > > > 3. reset all properties to their default value which are defined in
> >
> > the
> >
> > > > original appearance ("label"), but not defined in the new appearance
> > > > ("link-ref")
> > > > 4. set the properties defined in the new appearance
> > > >
> > > > The third step is important in your case. You did not define any
> > > > value for "wrap" in your appearance, so the widget gets resetted to
> > > > its defaultValue.
> > > >
> > > > I hope this explanation did answer your question ;-)
> > > >
> > > > cheers,
> > > >   Alex
> > > >
> > > > On Wednesday 04 April 2007 Ralf Sternberg wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I noticed that calling setAppearance on a Label resets its wrap
> > > > > property although the appearance theme contains no definition of
> >
> > this
> >
> > > > > property. Example code:
> > > > >
> > > > >    label.setWrap( false );
> > > > >    label.debug( "_____ wrap before: " + label.getWrap() );
> > > > >    label.setAppearance( "link-ref" );
> > > > >    label.debug( "_____ wrap after: " + label.getWrap() );
> > > > >
> > > > > results in
> > > > >
> > > > >    DEBUG: qx.ui.basic.Label[1567]: _____ wrap before: false
> > > > >    DEBUG: qx.ui.basic.Label[1567]: _____ wrap after: true
> > > > >
> > > > > The appearance definition looks like this:
> > > > >
> > > > >    "link-ref" : {
> > > > >      initial : function( vTheme ) {
> > > > >        return {
> > > > >          cursor : "pointer"
> > > > >        }
> > > > >      }
> > > > >    }
> > > > >
> > > > > Does setAppearance() generally resets properties that are not
> > > > > explicitely defined in the appearance theme?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >    Ralf
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