Thanks Sebastion.
You make a good point about different UI libraries. And it's a pity that there 
are so many different ways to do things in javascript, to the point where many 
people are writing their own subclassing utilities. This makes integration and 
even IDE use a problem.
 
In fact I have a project which needs to have code written right away.
 
I think I will hang back on qooxdoo but I will definately be back in 2008.
 
Good luck everyone!
 
Regards
Michael Ribbons


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 07:24:09 +0200To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
Re: [qooxdoo-devel] Starting out with the qooxdoo libraries
To combine multiple UI libraries is normally not a good idea. It starts with 
conflicts between event and focus handling does over to style conflicts and 
ends with the bloat to load both.

The full build process cannot be used with ExtJs. You are able to compress 
files on a single file basis or through the generator. The most cool features 
are not easily open for third party libs because the dependency tracking etc. 
do not support other class declaration formats than the qooxdoo one for the 
moment.

We would be more than happy if you are able to start programming with qooxdoo 
only right know. We are currently in the phase of developing the next major 
version which should bring a lot of new capabilities regarding themeing. When 
your application needs not to be ready in 3 month (qooxdoo 0.8 is planned for 
early 2008), I would say to directly use qooxdoo might be the better way.

In fact this question was not asked before. It would be really nice if people 
on this list can put stuff they which seems useful to them to the wiki. The 
full qooxdoo.org is editable by the community. You can easily put some 
paragraphs of this email there, add some of you own content. I think this would 
be a great help for other new users.

Sebastian




Am 20.09.2007 um 03:51 schrieb Michael Ribbons:
Fabian, > You can tell the build system to just include the required files in 
the > "soure" version by setting the Makefile variable > 
APPLICATION_COMPLETE_SOURCE to false > 
<http://qooxdoo.org/documentation/0.7/makefile_defaults#application_complete_source>.
 > If you do this make sure to run make each time you use a new qooxdoo > class 
in your code.This leads me to another question. Can the qooxdoo development 
environment be used to link and minify 3rd party Javascript libs? I am 
specifically interested in the Ext library. It is nice, but qooxdoo's build 
process is very impressive. If not, what is the preferred method of using third 
party libraries? Just by using a <script src> include? I'm sure this has been 
asked many times in one way or another but I couldn't find anything in the 
archive. Actually, I could do without Ext - If qooxdoo has a cross browser XML 
Request implementation - Perhaps someone would like to point me to an example 
of how xml requests are performed and processed in a typical qoox application. 
RegardsMichael Ribbons  

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