Hi Alex,

1. bug (Paragraph) submitted as #1538.
2. bug (Full control over B, I, U, S) submitted as #1539
3. bug (There is no API for controlling styles and current path)
submitted as #1540
4. bug merged with #1540.

Alex, and I noticed one issue about firefox focus bug. It will focus
now, but cursor is not blinking (but I can type). Also report this ?

Cheers
- Petr

2008/11/3 Alexander Back <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi Petr,
>
> Petr Kobalíček wrote:
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> Have you some time o improve HtmlArea ?
> I try to work on the HtmlArea and improve it, but there are also a lot
> of other work to do, especially for the upcoming 0.8.1 release. So I
> don't want to promise anything that I can not keep.
>
>> I tried it, the focus bug is really out, but there are still few bugs
>> that making html area not so usable for me.
>>
>> I try to describe them:
>>
>> 1. There is something wrong with first paragraph. When you try on
>> first focus to remove everything (use Ctrl+A and Delete) and then type
>> some text, there will not be paragraph.
>>
>> For example I tried to set alignment and instead paragraph it will
>> create DIV. Here is some text output:
>>   <div style="text-align:center;">dsfsdf</div><p>sdf</p><p
>> style="text-align:left;">sdf</p><p>sf</p><p>sdfs</p><p>f</p>
>>
>> 2. There is no full control over bold, italic, etc. I can toggle them,
>> but I can't set them for example to true or false that's bad.
>>
>> 3. I don't know how to control styles and allow styles.
>>
>> 4. I don't know how to use CSS style in HtmlArea, because documents
>> are usually edited like web preview.
>>
>> Only 4 points now, I can continue when these wil be solved (there are
>> critical for me)
>>
>> What do you thing ?
> As always please file these bugs as bug reports. This way other users
> are informed of open bugs and the developers of the component can better
> tackle them down.
>
> -> http://bugzilla.qooxdoo.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=contrib
> Just use the "HtmlArea" component if you file them.
>
> thanks,
>   Alex
>
>>
>> 2008/11/1 Petr Kobalíček <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> Hi John,
>>>
>>> BSD (Modified) licence is most liberal licence for software. I think
>>> that it should never be in conflict with anything. Personally I'm not
>>> using GPL or LGPL licences, only BSD, MIT, Public Domain and similar
>>> ones.
>>>
>>> Just send me PM when you will be ready to colaborate on image chooser.
>>> I have too little time now but for this I will make it:)
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> - Petr
>>>
>>> 2008/10/31 John Spackman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>> Hi Petr,
>>>>
>>>> Yes please, that looks very cool but I'm worried that the licensing might
>>>> conflict with the Qooxdoo and that might prevent it from being a contrib?  
>>>> I
>>>> am literally just off on holiday (I popped back into the office to get the
>>>> hotel info and my g/f is not amused!) but I'll take this up again in a few
>>>> weeks
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Petr Kobalíček [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Sent: 31 October 2008 18:37
>>>> To: qooxdoo Development
>>>> Subject: Re: [qooxdoo-devel] HtmlArea for 0.8 still not usable
>>>>
>>>> Hi John,
>>>>
>>>> I have some simple image chooser and I can release it under BSD licence. If
>>>> you are interested I can send it to you, but as all my code, it depends to
>>>> some our code that I cannot release.
>>>>
>>>> But it's only image chooser with NO thinks like image width,height, alt 
>>>> text
>>>> and others. Also main problem is that it can show only file names, not
>>>> thumbnails, because flow layout not works well :(
>>>>
>>>> I'm sending screenshot to imagine how it's look like (nothing pretty)
>>>>
>>>> 2008/10/31 John Spackman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>>> Hi Alex,
>>>>>
>>>>> IMHO it's not that HtmlArea itself is unusable, it's that it is often not
>>>> usable on its own; in order to integrate it into an application there needs
>>>> to be simple toolbars for bold/italic/etc but also more complex issues 
>>>> like:
>>>>> +. support for styles (H1, H2, etc as well as custom styles in SPAN
>>>>> +tags) - this requires some fairly involved code manipulating the DOM
>>>>> +. An image picker where the server can be browsed in some way . Other
>>>>> +dialogs for inputing and editing URLs etc
>>>>>
>>>>> The current demo makes HtmlArea look like a poor cousin to
>>>> FCKEditor/TinyMCE/etc and it's only when you look further that you realise
>>>> that HtmlArea is something _good_ but that is intended to be built upon.  I
>>>> only realised it when I got fed up with FCKEditor being so slow, and I'm 
>>>> not
>>>> the only one to make that mistake.
>>>>> Petr & I briefly raised these issues while you were on holiday (my
>>>> [slightly buggy] version is available here http://www.zenesis.com/qx/dev/)
>>>> and we discussed working on a contrib.
>>>>> I'd like to suggest that it becomes part of the HtmlArea contrib - anyone
>>>> who wants a drop-in user friendly editor uses the HtmlEditor class but
>>>> internally there's a clear separation between the toolbars etc and the
>>>> HtmlArea.  At the very least, it would be a great demo for the HtmlArea
>>>> control.
>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Alexander Back [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> Sent: 31 October 2008 09:15
>>>>> To: qooxdoo Development
>>>>> Subject: Re: [qooxdoo-devel] HtmlArea for 0.8 still not usable
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Petr,
>>>>>
>>>>> Petr Kobalíček wrote:
>>>>>> After some time I'm posting here my code, that's only stripped from
>>>>>> our application. I don't have time to make it functional without our
>>>>>> components.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Currently we are not using this RichText and we will probably never use.
>>>>> I'm curious about your reason not to choose the HtmlArea ever again.
>>>>> Which bugs are open in 0.3-pre version which prevents you from using
>>>>> this widget?
>>>>> As a side note: I've fixed this annoying focus bug in Firefox (
>>>>> http://bugzilla.qooxdoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1366 ) this week.
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as I know the current 0.3-pre version is usable and there are
>>>>> no major bugs open. So if you encountered some major bugs I'm
>>>>> currently not aware of let us know by filing bug reports.
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>   Alex
>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> - Petr
>>>>>> 2008/10/11 Petr Kobalíček <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for you sample, I'm trying to split my implementation but
>>>>>>> some things are very dependent to our file browser. I hope that
>>>>>>> tonight it will be ready, but without file browser.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You implementation is good:)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> - Petr
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2008/10/10 John Spackman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've uploaded my sample and the code to
>>>>>>>> http://www.zenesis.com/qx/dev/myapp/source/ - there's a readme at
>>>>>>>> http://www.zenesis.com/qx/dev/README.txt and if you want to take a
>>>>>>>> look at the code it's http://www.zenesis.com/qx/dev.zip.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: John Spackman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>> Sent: 09 October 2008 12:32
>>>>>>>> To: 'qooxdoo Development'
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [qooxdoo-devel] HtmlArea for 0.8 still not usable
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Petr,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm very happy to collaborate on this - although I suspect I'll be
>>>>>>>> more a user of HtmlArea itself than a major contributor to it.  I
>>>>>>>> think that there is a reasonable amount of work to add rich
>>>>>>>> controls to the editor and make it a very accessible and easy to
>>>>>>>> use component, especially for the smarter features like image
>>>>>>>> pickers and other dialogs etc so it would be great to work together
>>>>>>>> on this.  Is it possible for you to put your RichEditor on the web
>>>>>>>> somewhere?  I need to finish some things off today but upload it later
>>>> on for you to look at.
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Petr Kobalíček [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>> Sent: 09 October 2008 11:57
>>>>>>>> To: qooxdoo Development
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [qooxdoo-devel] HtmlArea for 0.8 still not usable
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Guys,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm happy for too much comments here :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> First
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a) about [HTMLSpanElement] bug:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm corrected it, but unfortunally there is something wrong with my
>>>>>>>> code (see latest commit), because it not behaves good (I don't know
>>>>>>>> how to document it, there are growing number if <p> tags and I
>>>>>>>> don't know).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> b) about anything else :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have sometimes time to contribute to HtmlArea, I have read early
>>>>>>>> all code, but I have sometimes problems to understand it at all
>>>>>>>> (it's not badly written, but there seems be too much bugs in
>>>>>>>> browsers and Html editing is COMPLEX to implement).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Problem for me is that the "firefox focus bug" is still there, try
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> code:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> qx.Class.define("bfly.admin.Application",
>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>  extend : qx.application.Standalone,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  members :
>>>>>>>>  {
>>>>>>>>    // [Entry point]
>>>>>>>>    main: function()
>>>>>>>>    {
>>>>>>>>      // [SuperClass]
>>>>>>>>      this.base(arguments);
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      // [Main Container]
>>>>>>>>      this._container = new qx.ui.container.Composite(
>>>>>>>>        new qx.ui.layout.VBox().set({
>>>>>>>>          spacing: 1
>>>>>>>>        })
>>>>>>>>      );
>>>>>>>>      this.getRoot().add(this._container, {edge:0});
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      // [MenuBar]
>>>>>>>>      this._tabView = new qx.ui.tabview.TabView();
>>>>>>>>      this._container.add(this._tabView, {flex: 1});
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      for (var i = 0; i < 3; i++)
>>>>>>>>      {
>>>>>>>>        var page = new qx.ui.tabview.Page("Page " + i);
>>>>>>>>        var area = new htmlarea.HtmlArea();
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>        page.setLayout(new qx.ui.layout.Canvas);
>>>>>>>>        page.add(area, {edge: 0});
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>        this._tabView.add(page);
>>>>>>>>      }
>>>>>>>>    }
>>>>>>>>  }
>>>>>>>> });
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When you use TABs, you can't focus to previously hidden HtmlAreas
>>>>>>>> in Firefox.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> c) And for John,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John, I'm doing something very similar to your work. I called it
>>>>>>>> RichEditor and it's HtmlArea with toolbars with some customizing way.
>>>>>>>> My code depends to our system, but I try to make it generic. We can
>>>>>>>> colaborate on this if you want.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>> - Petr
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2008/10/9 Fabian Jakobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>>>>>>>> Andreas Ecker schrieb:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi John!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I realise Alexander is on holiday right now so I'm leaving this
>>>>>>>>>>> as a
>>>>>>>> note
>>>>>>>>>>> for when he returns as much as anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to add my vote to this - a rich text editor is
>>>>>>>>>>> important and
>>>>>>>> we've
>>>>>>>>>>> abandoned the FCKeditor integration because it's too slow.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Would be great we could collaborate on improving HtmlArea. Such a
>>>>>>>>>> widget requires quite some community effort to iron out immanent
>>>>>>>>>> cross-browser issues.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've nearly finished a wrapper around HtmlArea which adds
>>>>>>>>>>> toolbars for styling, formatting, images, links, etc in one
>>>>>>>>>>> Widget; I'd like to contribute it as part of the HtmlArea
>>>>>>>>>>> package but obviously don't want
>>>>>>>> to go
>>>>>>>>>>> steaming in until Alexander is back.  I'll post it here if
>>>>>>>>>>> anyone wants
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> take a look in the mean time.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, that could become a fine contribution to qooxdoo-contrib for
>>>>>>>>>> people interested in an out-of-the-box solution for an HTML
>>>>>>>>>> editor. Actually, we never wanted to package up such a combined
>>>>>>>>>> solution (other than the sample included with HtmlArea), as one
>>>>>>>>>> would need to support so many variants that it easily becomes
>>>>>>>>>> (again) a heavy-weight configuration thingy. Attaching toolbars
>>>>>>>>>> and other elements to HtmlArea should be fairly easy in qooxdoo
>>>>>>>>>> to satisfy individual requirements. But if you think you've come
>>>>>>>>>> up with a solution that could be widely used, that's great.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, as I suggested it should rather be a separate
>>>>>>>>>> contribution (maybe called "HtmlEditor") next to the existing
>>>>>>>>>> HtmlArea. The area itself should stay a plain html editing widget
>>>>>>>>>> without custom chrome (toolbars, etc.). Well, we'll figure out
>>>>>>>>>> the details, also when Alex is back.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I absolutely agree that the core HtmlArea widget should only focus
>>>>>>>>> on plain Html editing but why not include it into the current
>>>>>>>>> HtmlArea as an example application. It is not required to have
>>>>>>>>> just one example application in a contrib project. This way
>>>>>>>>> example editor is always in sync with the editing component and serves
>>>> as a good example.
>>>>>>>>>> What do you think? In the meantime you could have a look at
>>>>>>>>>> http://contrib.qooxdoo.org for the contribution details and then
>>>>>>>>>> email me directly to answer all your questions and getting you
>>>>>>>>>> started,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best Fabian
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