Hi,

I'll start with my 2 cents on things to improve so I can finish on positive 
things :

* a parameter in the build toolchain to allow to specify where the SDK will be 
after a compile source build. This would allow to to compile source and then 
move source somewhere else. I know source is not for production but for 
validation purpose or to solve a tricky bug, we need debug message in prod 
environment for example, so this may be improved either by allowing (not by 
default) debug message in compile build (how to still get the correct file and 
line number in errors ?) or by simplifying compile source SDK path problem.

* compile time improvement. I have to use a ram disk for the cache to make it 
acceptable for us, but still it is the step that consume most of the time from 
far for an entire app : qx client side, Java server side, database schema 
installation, ...

* a better shiny default theme (maybe less grayed but this is my own taste 
here) or more themes (one per OS like in Swing, so any one will find a well 
known look and feel ?). 

* an official way to optionally bypass build tool chain for newcomers. It was 
already discussed but despite the obvious value the tool chain provide, it 
comes with an extra complexity to deal with including . I sure this prevent 
larger qooxdoo adaption

On Dec 8, 2009, at 21:06 , Stefan Volbers wrote:

> Hi core devs,
> as others already said, the well-founded qooxdoo OO api is invaluable.
> The mailing list is ultima ratio whenever things need enlightenment.
> Any major browser is supported.
> But my topmost favourite qooxdoo point is: you have a fully complete 
> toolkit for writing enterprise web applications *without writing a 
> single line of html*.
> 
> Thanks for providing qooxdoo!
> 
> Greetings,
> Stefan
> 

+1
I fully agree with your comment.

I would add the compile build. I found it really valuable and produce very 
quick and heavily optimized js. The produced app load quickly.

A big thanks to all the community and a special thanks to 1&1 qooxdoo core team 
!
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