Hi,
I fully agree on your thought, it never worked for me as well. There
are well know issues and one of them is "synchronization" between two
documents. It's impossible (well, hard :) ) to keep both documents
synchronized.
But actually I talked about diagram generation from code which might
be useful for documentation, presentations, tutorials, etc. It's easy
to change it just by running generation process again if you change
something in your code. It would be helpful to "visualize" your
architecture. It might even work as a part of API Viewer using SVG and
canvas.
Cheers,
Serge
On Jan 21, 2010, at 12:12 PM, Jean-Baptiste BRIAUD -- Novlog wrote:
> Few points based on my experience for code generation :
>
> Drawing a UML class : a rectangle with "Customer" word in it and
> from that diagram pretend to generate code like
> qx.Class.define("Customer", {});
> has no added value.
> Both UML diagram and code has the same level of abstraction, only
> the syntax change : a graphical one -> a js one. No added value.
>
> As a developer, I prefer using text js, Java, ... whatever language
> you want rather than graphical tool
> that fail, are slow, do not provide versioning using SVN, do not
> have correct find/replace and a lot of other reasons...
>
> If I'm not a developer, I don't know code, but the one I could
> eventually generate look more like skeleton and it won't run. Even
> here, no added value.
>
> So, as a summary :
> 1. documentation track. Very useful but it is the other way around :
> from code to UML schema.
> No try to use UML as a starting point. No synchronization, no round
> trip, no blabla :-) => it could work.
> This could be done from qooxdoo generator but the problem will be to
> choose the correct output that can be rendered as UML diagram on
> multiple plateform and UML product.
> This thing exist : XMI but it is a hell of XML tags. Doable but
> complex.
> I guess this would be very appreciated from any qooxdoo user.
> I would add to class diagram generation, "screen" navigation in some
> way, but this is quite vague and need to be clarify.
>
> 2. qooxdoo code generation track, choosing UML as a starting point
> is a big mistake.
> We are doing that at Novlog and our starting point is the heart of
> our innovation.
> We start from business requirement that is at a higher level of
> abstraction than class diagram.
> This is quite complex for us to code but quite simple to use. Call
> us if interested.
> In short we are generating both qooxdoo frontend, Java backend and
> database schema.
> There is added value : currently, one line of business requirement
> produce roughly 100 line of code.
>
> On Jan 21, 2010, at 10:49 , Siarhei Barysiuk wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> It would be a great qooxdoo contribution- class diagram generator. I
>> was thinking about such tool.
>>
>> Qooxdoo has an outstanding part - its generator, it's possible to add
>> any additional functionality with help of it. There is an API viewer
>> which produces classes information in JSON (it's possible to get in
>> XML with minor changes, what I did for qxtransformer to generate own
>> tag viewer). So, all what is needed is to produce SVG document from
>> this JSON/XML file using Python. After that add an additional target
>> to your config.
>>
>> I understand that UML is more than class diagrams but anyway, that's
>> what is needed mostly.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Siarhei
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 20, 2010, at 10:57 PM, Andreas wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> are there some UML tools for qooxdoo available? For example, I would
>>> like to create a class diagram for my qooxdoo project.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Andreas
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