...writing business logic might even constitute fun whereas writing wads and wads of containers in containers containing widgets is abusing the programmer as a GUI compiler.

And contrary to all logic which should be applied to GUI design customers often know what they want the moment when they see an implementation which they don't want, meaning you have to react fast may be even on the spot to redesign. It also happens quite often that a customer is willing to 'draw' its own GUI up to a point where there is only business logic to write.

All in all, even a wimpy tool which implements only the basics would be a huge progress compared to nothing at all (so far).

Werner

On 08.06.2010 16:30, panyasan wrote:

Hello,

I know Derrell is working on a GUI designer, but I don't know what the state
is.

That said, my personal experience so far is that I don't spend much time on
the GUI design itself, but rather with the businesss logic. It seems to me
that the widgets that can be quickly drawn with a GUI designer are those
which are quite trivial to write in code (especially when using a
declarative markup  - I use the XML->Javascript converter QxTransformer
which is available as a contrib). In contrast, the really useful widgets
that combined access control, interactiveness and client-server databinding
require a lot of business logic that cannot be realized in a GUI designer
anyways. So my personal feeling is that I would gain only little from such a
tool.

*That* said,  I would of course welcome a designer and would use it,
especially if it could produce QxTransformer-compliant XML :-)

C.

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