T!
Now you are back again smashing people's faces! Let stop that and get back to a
professional conversation!
>"We"?!
yes, we!
>It didn't sound like that. You might want to re-consider your writing style.
Please, reread it!
>Of course, if the optimizations are general enough and can be sustained
>over time.
That is what we think regardless of anything else. If there is someone else
thinking like us, then it is ok for us.
>Every serious and sensible improvement that is not already implemented
>is so because of lack of time. I thought that was obvious.
So you mean then we should stop asking important questions? We used our time to
ask because we needed the information and nothing else.
>Interacting with bugzilla is one of the primary skills to interact with
>the whole project. I suggest you acquaint yourself with it if you plan
>to use qooxdoo on a regular basis.
As I said, we do interact with the bugzilla! We do use qooxdoo on a regular
basis....and we do have a fairly big application to fight with....
>Searching bugzilla for keyword "performance", component "tool-generator"
>and status "NEW" would e.g. show you outstanding optimization
>enhancements that are filed for the generator, and you could check which
>of those match the items you have in mind.
We have done that, but it is not conclusive.
>As there are various types of code to inspect, as I indicated, it is
>unclear what exactly you are referring to. But that aside, if you had
>inspected the code as you say you would already know that we e.g. don't
>do loop optimizations. So why ask?
It is very simple T! We ask to certify our own observations. That is academic
thinking. If you would have said something else, we would have to rescan the
code to find it. But that has now been cleared out and then we can look into
more detail. So simple is that. Is it understandable now?
>"to throw results"?!
Typo.. Yes, to throw results, referring to what you wrote before.
>I'm not bothered answering questions in general. But like any other open
>forum or mailing list, this list relies on a certain netiquette, a form
>of well-behaved information exchange.
We interact with more than 20 different foras and mailing lists, and for us it
has never been a problem before. We know very well what netiquette is.
>This includes doing own research upfront and before posting a question.
We have. Did you read that?
>Primary sources for such research are the manual, the wiki, the blog and
>the mailing list archive, but may include also code for specific
>interests like yours.
and we did...
>If those don't provide sufficient answers, you
>should post your question stating which information you have found so
>far and why it was not sufficient.
...and we did and for that we get critics...
> Taking part in the mailing list is an
>*activity* (not a "passivity"), you cannot just throw questions at it
>and let others work out the answers.
I can not see that we ask differently than others, and you want results thrown
at you, as you wrote before.
I can not see that we are passive, when we have:
1. read all manuals
2. read all wikis
3. read the bugzilla
4. gone through every single line code
5. gone through other documentation
6. interact on the mailing list
7. add snippets
8. add code
9. add proposals of changes
10. report bugs and enhancements
etc
inactive? If you don't want to answer the question, tell us on the mailing list.
> The aim to is put as much effort as
>is reasonable on the side of questioner. And questions should not be
>demands in disguise. There are no servants on this list.
We do not demand anything or expect anything at all. But it is reasonable to
think that you wish qooxdoo to be used and be a vivid project as you put it
open source...
Thanks for the answers. Those were helpful!
Stefan
HTH,
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