Hi,
Point 1 is not really a con IMO, it's just that Qooxdoo is not targeted for
simple web pages. jQuery is much more adapted for that.
I agree with point 2. It's absolutely useless to support IE 6 / IE 7 and
other old browsers. We ditched support from those browsers a long time ago
(even with Qooxdoo, there was *a ton* of issues with these browsers, we
kept finding bugs, some of those in Qooxdoo, so it just made more sense to
only support modern browsers).
For point 3, I dont feel databinding is too heavy but I only use it client
side (eg, widget to domain classes properties), not for server side binds.
Jean-Noel
On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Petr Kobalíček <[email protected]>wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I like qooxdoo and I used it in the past, but I feel like saying also some
> cons, instead of repeating pros again and again:)
>
> 1. Qooxdoo is too heavy. Even if you try to minimize as much as possible
> the qooxdoo js is more than 1MB (I'm talking about standard setup
> containing basic widgets, not application showing "Hello" button). This
> makes qooxdoo impossible to use on classic web-pages.
>
> 2. Backward compatibility makes toolking even more heavy. Today's browsers
> improved, there is no need for IE6/IE7 support, or support for archaic
> browsers like Firefox 1.5, etc. Yes, maybe somebody disagrees, but for me
> keeping this support is something like making a desktop application for
> Windows 3.1. What I mean here is that today many things can be done easier
> than they are done in qooxdoo. For example the whole bom layer, batch
> rendering, etc, is an unnecessary complication.
>
> 3. Databinding is too heavy :-P I don't like the fact I have to marshal
> JSON data I receive.
>
> My conclusion: I think that qooxdoo advantage is that it's like Java, and
> disadvantage is that it's like Java:-P
>
> In the past we used qooxdoo for administration interface for an e-commerce
> application. We started working on version 2 and we don't plan to use
> qooxdoo again. I plan to create a html5 toolkit, something very lightweight
> that will contain a basic widget set in a qooxdoo-like way - no css or
> html, but much closer to the DOM while taking advantage of a new browser
> features.
>
> But I would like to thank you qooxdoo devs; it's a nice and organized
> toolkit.
>
> Best,
> Petr
>
> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Jean-Noël Rivasseau <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> I also replied there :-)
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 3:28 PM, franck34 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> my 2 cents (french market)
>>>
>>> http://www.developpez.net/forums/d1325283/telechargez/qooxdoo/
>>>
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