I'm +1 for Ant for M1, Maven for M2. A couple of brief points I'd like to add, sorry to drag the debate out but I'm hoping these will inform our discussion.
Firstly, Qpid already has real live enterprise application users whom we need to support. This was the main driver for me proposing, indeed urging, an M1 release before the major changes planned for M2. Most (all?) of the work in M1 and the baseline java broker has been contributed by our team, and we have real business demands for an M1 release. I have no other motivation for any of my views than getting an M1 cut to support them, as these are critical projects. I can well appreciate that other projects want to use Qpid too and the bigger Apache project. To get M1 out we need to draw a line and start testing. We voted on where the line was drawn previously. Btw I'd hope that other projects could use a trunk build with maven when it's ready ? I know that we all have differing priorities, but without wishing to carp on - the project was contributed with existing users and we must support them. For me, this is the key aim for M1. We'll be incubating for some time and we can collectively contribute to the Maven effort going forward. We could even do an interim release for maven between now and Dec since we've done most of the setup work all round for release. Please, deep breaths all round. Marnie On 11/14/06, Johnson, Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I wasn't advocating a move to Ant. I was just voicing my opinion that Robert should simply post his vote and let the chips fall where they may. Personally, I think going with Maven is the smart money. It seems like a majority of people think Maven will be the path forward at some point and it makes sense to bite the bullet earlier even if that means pushing the milestone out a day or two. Of course, my opinion is completely non-binding and lacks any technical expertise. > -----Original Message----- > From: Carl Trieloff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 2:15 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Maven build > > > I Agree with Eric - I think the simplest at this point is to > create a branch for M1, RC with ant and move on. I +1 for that. > > Then we re-open the java mainline for maven and everything > else for a M2. > > Carl. > > > Johnson, Eric wrote: > > Again with the continuing wasted e-mail bandwidth.... > > Is there a point to all this? You are clearly not in favor > of moving > > to Maven for M1 if ever. Please just vote -1 to doing so > and lets move > > on..... > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Robert Greig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 2:06 PM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: Maven build > >> > >> > >>> I worked on Sunday to get the initial mvn branch in. I > then worked > >>> again last night to do the distribution stuff, which was > a separate > >>> request. > >>> > >> Then there clearly has been another communication breakdown since > >> that was not my expectation or that of at least some others. > >> > >> RG > >> > >> > >
