Excuse the top post...

These would be my two comments,

First, as we develop we will find things that need to be fixed or worked in the spec. That is good and from my side I have no issue the qpid project working them out. However when we do that we should raise it to the list and make sure we take them back to working group. Once the issue has been worked at the working group we should then revisit and update as to how it is modified in the spec. I expect that we will have back and forward for a few months yet as the spec develops. Maybe we can create a separate section in JIRA for this so that we don't lose them.

Second item is: we need to make sure that we maintain interop between all the impl within the qpid project.

On the item of spec compliance, I don't think we have claimed that yet. I am not even convinced that M1 is compliant with 0.8. As we are developing the project while the spec is being developed I would expect that we would goal to be compliant on a future release once the codebase and spec has stabilized. We might be able to do that for 0-10 if most of the open items (for example JMS, type system, ...) get resolved and in.

So yes, I agree with the comment made in this thread, and to Gordon's point we need a better way to keep track of these items.

Carl.

Gordon Sim wrote:
Robert Godfrey wrote:
Are you saying we will not support those parts of 0-9 which are also in 0-8
(i.e. Basic, File and Stream)?

As far as I understand it, those are still in the spec although marked as
likely to be replaced.  If we are claiming spec compliance should we not
still support these classes for the moment?

That would have been my understanding as well.

If spec compliance is not our
goal (i.e. we are really anticipating a later version of the spec where
these elements have been removed) we should be clear about that.

I agree.

On other
threads we have been quite reluctant to get "ahead of the spec".

Thats really just been me, and I accept I am being rather pedantic! To again repeat what I tried previously to say, I am not at all against adding to the protocol. I would however (where feasible) much prefer that we didn't actually break it for simple scenarios. My view should be taken purely as the opinion of one person though!

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