I reached out to them today; I think they would like to be more involved.
Something to discuss on Wednesday.

Note: The RabbitMQ chaps have signed the RLA so can participate.

John

On 25/01/07, Steve Vinoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Jan 25, 2007, at 4:47 AM, Marnie McCormack wrote:

> I guess if we need to be supporting Erlang we should get the AMQP
> WG to
> involve the RabbitMQ team in the discussion ? They'd be best placed to
> discuss how it could be done from their perspective.

+1.

If the AMQP WG specifies a portable management "language" while
avoiding forcing any particular requirements for underlying
implementation choices, which is exactly how the WG needs to operate,
then I don't believe that implementing it in Erlang would be a
problem. Still, bringing the RabbitMQ guys into the community
certainly can't hurt.

--steve

>
> Marnie
>
>
> On 1/25/07, Rafael Schloming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> I hadn't pictured using python as a server embedded language, just
>> as a
>> good way to write really low maintenance command line utilities
>> (including a sqlplus like one) that can easily talk to many different
>> broker implementations.
>>
>> Of course now that you mention it python is probably one of the
>> easiest
>> languages to embed in both Java and C++ (don't know about Erlang),
>> and
>> it is a much more full featured language than many other candidates
>> (e.g. javascript, groovy, etc, have some frustrating limitations when
>> writing larger pieces of code).
>>
>> --Rafael
>>
>> John O'Hara wrote:
>> > Over at AMQP WG we want to standardise basic management to make it
>> portable
>> > -- think DDL / DML.
>> >
>> > So the server implementation of the commands needs to be able to
>> process
>> > some command language **within** the server.
>> > The command processor will need to be emeddable into both Java
>> and C/C++
>> > (and Erlang - see RabbitMQ).
>> > This likely means some custom scheme (think DDL / DML).
>> >
>> > Given this objective, which is important to end users, embedding
>> Python
>> > into
>> > the brokers may not be the most sensible option (it may be a
>> sensible
>> thing
>> > for the command line client, but the command processor in the
>> server
>> needs
>> > to be more agnostic).
>> >
>> > This is somewhere that designing it first will pay off before
>> running to
>> > the
>> > ID(L)E :-)
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> > John
>> >
>> > On 24/01/07, Jesus M. Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> +1 for python
>> >>
>> >> On 1/24/07, Rafael Schloming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > +1
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm probably biased, but IMHO python would be an ideal choice
>> for
>> this.
>> >> >
>> >> > John O'Hara wrote:
>> >> > > We also need to do a command line client for AMQP.
>> >> > > Its very necessary....
>> >> > >
>> >> > > John
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On 12/01/07, Bhupendra Bhardwaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Hi Nuno,
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> patch applied.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Regards,
>> >> > >> Bhupendra
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> On 1/12/07, Nuno Santos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > Bhupendra Bhardwaj wrote:
>> >> > >> > > So I have applied the other part of the patch and created
>> >> different
>> >> > >> > scripts
>> >> > >> > > for gtk and motif. We can similarly create scripts for
>> other
>> >> > >> windowing
>> >> > >> > > system too without changing the config.ini.
>> >> > >> > > I think it is better from a user point of view to have
>> different
>> >> > >> script
>> >> > >> > for
>> >> > >> > > different windowing system instead of changing the
>> config.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > Bhupendra,
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > thanks for applying the patch... and I agree with you
>> regarding
>> >> having
>> >> > >> > the additional scripts vs. having to tweak a config file.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > Btw, I uploaded a 2nd patch to include your new scripts
>> in the
>> >> tar/zip
>> >> > >> > files:
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >>
>> >>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12348845/
>> management-eclipse-plugin-unix.xml-20070112.patch
>> >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > Nuno
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>>


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