On 08/11/2007, Daniel Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thursday 08 November 2007, Martin Ritchie wrote:
> > Yes you have to go to the IPMC to approve the release. From my
> > understanding there is still some debate about the level of review
> > that the IPMC performs. Is it purely legal checks or are there
> > functional tests also done.
>
> Purely legal.   From their standpoint, the code could not work, not meet
> any users needs, etc....   They just need to make sure all the legal
> ducks are in a row.
>
> > I have also seen concerns raised on the
> > general list when podlings take the vote to the general list to get
> > the 3 required votes.
>
> Hmmm...   Haven't ever seen that concern.   CXF has NEVER gotten 3
> binding votes before heading to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  (only 2 active mentors) 
> (The
> vote running now might be the first.    Need one more and I expect that
> today)   I don't think Tuscany ever has either.
>
> In fact, several mentors I've talked to will NOT vote until the vote is
> on [EMAIL PROTECTED]   They think by voting on the dev vote, they
> could "influence" other people on the project.   They specifically want
> to see how the community conducts their votes and own audits and stuff
> WITHOUT their involvement first.    This is especially true if the
> project is getting closer to graduation and the project SHOULD be able
> to do as much as it can itself.
>
> The concern is if, after the two votes, none of the mentors have voted.
> That definitely is a concern.

Ah, that is probably what I'm remembering. My brain is a little
distracted just now with a stomach bug.

> > Now here is where my knowledge gets a little hazy. Are all mentors on
> > the IPMC ?
>
> Hopefully yes, but not in all cases.   That's another thing they keep
> going back and forth on.   Some mentors are PMC on the "sponsoring"
> project, but that doesn't make them IPMC's.   Usually, they try to get 3
> IPMC mentors though.
>
> > If so then is it a release notification email that is sent
> > to general giving them 72hours to point out anything that they think
> > the mentors missed? Or have I go the wrong end of the stick here.
>
> It's not a release notification that is sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  It's a full
> vote.   That said, all binding votes from BOTH votes count.   Thus, if
> you DO have three here and don't get any there, that's OK as long as you
> do still conduct the vote there.
>
> > I remember there being numerous discussions on the general list but
> > none of the documentation seems to get updated.
>
> That seems to be the Apache way.  :-(
>
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