I'll just go on record and say that I think Qpid has come a long way since the 
last attempt and I appreciate the efforts.     From what I can tell, since 
the last vote:

1) You have voted in several people independent of JPMC and RedHat.   That's 
very good.  

2) The weekly concall thing has been discontinued.   Also very good.  
(concalls are very exclusionary)

3) The github development stuff has ceased. 

4) You did do a release.   I DO have concerns around this since it took 5 
attempts to get it through the IPMC.   I'm hoping the community learned from 
it and when you next do a release, the release managers are more careful and 
the voters do a better job of reviewing the release prior to voting.      
(Maybe I'll hang around and annoy^H^H^H^H^Hhelp out again.  ;-)

5) Discussions on the dev list have been fairly good.   The total dev list 
activity is declining (except spike in october), but that can easily 
accounted for from things stabilizing in the code and in the spec.   I don't 
see any major issues there.

Anyway, from my standpoint, things look a LOT better than they did back in 
March.    I applaud the QPid community for making the efforts needed to get 
the project on track.

Dan



On Wednesday 05 November 2008 8:38:06 pm Carl Trieloff wrote:
> It is with the support of our mentors and a community vote on our dev
> list that Qpid would
> like to proceed to graduation. In our last graduation vote the incubator
> PMC felt that the
> Qpid project should increase its diversity. Over the intervening months
> Qpid has added
> more independents to the project & PPMC, bringing the diversity to 7
> legally
> independent parties (not counting those mentors who will stay on to help
> advise).
> Qpid also continues to attract more contributors, so the committer pool
> and diversity
> should continue to expand as contributors are voted in as committers.
>
> Qpid has also made an additional release since the last graduation
> attempt and is currently
> working through close down of the next release.
>
> Attached is the graduation resolution, which was critiqued (/bashed :-)
> on the general list
> on our last graduation attempt with updated would be PMC...
>
> Please review our resolution, and provide any feedback or questions
> before a vote is started
> on the general list to graduate Qpid as a top level project
>
> many thanks.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>----
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance
> of open-source software related to distributed messaging,
> for distribution at no charge to the public.
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Qpid Project",
> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> Foundation; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Qpid Project be and hereby is
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> related to distributed messaging; a multiple language
> implementation providing daemons and APIs for publish &
> subscribe, eventing and a wide range of message distribution patterns
> based on the Advanced Message Queuing Protocol (AMQP) and
> related technologies such as (transaction management, federation,
> security, management); and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Qpid" be and
> hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at
> the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the
> Apache Qpid Project, and to have primary responsibility for
> management of the projects within the scope of responsibility
> of the Apache Qpid Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> Apache Qpid Project:
>
>     * Aidan Skinner
>     * Alan Conway
>     * Arnaud Simon
>     * Andrew Stitcher
>     * Carl Trieloff
>     * Craig Russell
>     * Gordon Sim
>     * John O'Hara
>     * Kim van der Riet
>     * Lahiru Gunathilake
>     * Marnie McCormack
>     * Martin Ritchie
>     * Manuel Teira
>     * Paul Fremantle
>     * Nuno Santos
>     * Rafael Schloming
>     * Rajith Attapattu
>     * Robert Greig
>     * Robert Godfrey
>     * Rupert Smith
>     * Steve Huston
>     * Yoav Shapira
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that
> Carl Trieloff be appointed to the office of Vice President,
> Qpid, to serve in accordance with and subject to the
> direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the
> Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it
> further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Qpid
> encumbered upon the Apache Incubator be hereafter discharged.



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Daniel Kulp
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