On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Chuck Yerkes wrote:

> POP-b4-SMTP is risky at best and fails at worst.
> Clients have planned to use it and have found great pain after
> deploying dozens of laptops.  There are those who chose
> it even after SMTP AUTH was available and clearly the "Right Answer"
> to replace the hack that is POP-b4-SMTP.

As an additional note for this - and ESPECIALLY applicable to laptops.

Lots of ISPs block port 25 transactions outside their local networks to
prevent direct-to-MX spammers operating out of their dialups.

As a result, roaming users need to use the MSA port instead of SMTP and
there are security issues involved with using plaintext SMTP AUTH - as
in anyone can read the passwords if they happen to be sniffing the
traffic(*), so you'd better use SSL too.

(*) Anyone doing traffic accounting for starters.

> The POP request comes in, your script enables anyone coming
> from that AOL host to relay freely for 20 minutes <shudder>
> but your SMTP connection comes in via a different relay.  You
> are denied.  Ooops.

and some software (outlook express) does smtp before pop3, so even if
pop-before-smtp is enabled, users will still ring you up complaining
that things don't work.

> SMTP-AUTH is almost always the right answer at this point.
> Even for internal LAN mail (keeps some guy who got on your
> 802.11a line from spamming).

Or the spammer coming in via a customer's promiscuious TCP port 25 proxy
from abusing your smarthost..


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