On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Chris Miller wrote:

> 
> The bottom line is that I need a pop server that plays nicely with quotas,
> corrupted mailboxes cause too many support issues. Customers get upset
> even though they created their own problem by turning on options they
> don't understand (leave mail on server). It would be nice to see a built
> in quota feature, or a locking option in a future release of qpopper that
> would solve this problem.
> 
> Writing scripts to police mailboxes might be a nice warning feature for
> our customers (something I considered) but it's not a solution for corrupt
> mailboxes. If qpopper can't write the file out to a filesystem, it should
> leave the file behind in the temp drop. Corrupting files is not what I
> would consider "failing gracefully".
> 

you could always use Maildir/ maildrop format, eliminating the need for 
server mode/.pop files.
there might be other factors involved for your setup that void this (your 
LDA won't support it, etc..), but it's an option, in general, nonetheless.

--Tony
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> 
> On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Chuck Yerkes wrote:
> 
> > System quotae were intended to keep users from storing too
> > much on the machines in their HOME DIRECTORIES.
> > 
> > That was the intent of quota systems.
> > 
> > So we can use it as a hack to limit mailboxes size.  But recall
> > that it's a hack, so we have to work around some of the quota intent
> > of offering a hard ceiling.  Users don't duplicate their home
> > directories a lot.
> > 
> > The Right Answer is not to (mis)use the system quotae, but rather,
> > put the checking in the delivery agent and let it use the soft
> > quota as an advisory - you could get the info from LDAP if you
> > wanted.  But it's work on your part, at this moment.
> > 
> > Quoting Alan Brown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > > On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Chuck Yerkes wrote:
> > > 
> > > > However, using the disk system to enforce mail quota's is inherently
> > > > a hack, given that there will be, for a moment, two spools.
> > > 
> > > The only way around system quotas is to have the files in 2 different
> > > partitions, but that is a _huge_ performance hit.
> > > 
> > > Server mode makes user.pop handling a lot safer, but you need to ensure
> > > that there is no direct access to the spool (eg, pine or mail) (Pine can
> > > be configured to use pop in /etc/pine.conf or /etc/pine.conf.fixed), or
> > > the direct access program.
> > > 
> > > As Chuck says, pop is not designed for a lot of this high-end stuff.
> > > 
> > > AB
> > > 
> > 
> 
> 

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Anthony J. Biacco                            Network Administrator/Engineer
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