I did not mean forged bounces but real bounces for forged mails. Spammers discovered my domains some months ago and are increasingly using them for forged mails. I am using SPF to protect my domains but if other mail servers don't check it on reception and then additionally bounce the forged mail, I'm getting the bounce, not the spammer.

It would be very helpful if I could reject those bounces just to avoid double bounces and not annoy other postmasters. But then, if they'd run better mail servers, they would not accept the original forged mail, I would not get the bounces and they would not get the double bounces...

Werner

Mark Farver schrieb:
Werner Fleck wrote:
I receive a lot of bounces for mail messages which I have not originally sent. Most of this bounces have the original mail somewhere in the body. The original mail often contains a "Received:" line with one of my domains but wrong ip addresses.

These are not necessarily forged bounce messages. Lately I've noticed that spammers using zombies are forging the sender, and adding a forged received line that contains the MX for the forged sender domain. Its just like any other "joe job" but the addition of the fake received line makes it a look a little more legitimate.

Check the line just above the forged "received" line, odds are it will be an obvious zombie host.

If a spammer is joe jobbing you, there is not much you can do. Reject all mail for non-existent users during the SMTP transaction.

You could write some system that tags messages that were sent from your host, and only allow bounces that have that identifier back through. But all you end up doing is double bouncing the message, and some other innocent postmaster will have to deal with it.
Mark Farver

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