I’ll clarify little bit, as my earlier comment about “any backend” has been confusing. I requested a repo for a QtCreator analytics plugin, but we realized why not to use a similar solution in other tools as well. I want to concentrate on a Qt Creator plugin first to fully understand the problem domain. Once that is done we can discuss how to move forward with this project”. Our intention is usage data collection, but nothing else at this point. Obviously, we plan to use the collected data to improve Qt. As a concrete example, we have provided a lot of nice features in Qt Quick Designer in the recent Qt Creator releases, but we have no idea, if the use of Qt Quick Designer has changed in any way. This kind of data would be very valuable to us. -- Tino
On 23/02/2018, 14.28, "Adam Treat" <adam.tr...@qt.io<mailto:adam.tr...@qt.io>> wrote: +1 to playground This is open source... by all means experiment! As long as no laws are being broken and no licenses violated, then if their is an itch... scratch it! The person who codes decides. We can all judge the results by looking at the code. Useless to have stop energy about a plug-in that does not yet exist. It could be great or it could be a lousy failure, but opening up a playgrounds repo costs no one anything. ________________________________ From: Development <development-bounces+adam.treat=qt...@qt-project.org> on behalf of Simon Hausmann <simon.hausm...@qt.io> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 3:00:33 AM To: Pasi Keränen; Tino Pyssysalo; Tuukka Turunen; qt-creator@qt-project.org; developm...@qt-project.org Subject: Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator Hi, Given that no plan has been presented about how this is intended to work in terms of backend or API scope, I stand with my -1 for a qt/ or qt-creator/ repo. If there exists no plan yet but the desire to experiment, then I'm with Pasi here and would suggest a repository in the playground scope. I think either analytics or telemetry make sense to have in the name. Firebase for example uses the term analytics in their API and Mozilla uses the term telemetry for the service of collecting performance and usage info for Firefox. Simon ________________________________ From: Pasi Keränen Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 8:53:33 AM To: Maurice Kalinowski; Tino Pyssysalo; Simon Hausmann; Tuukka Turunen; qt-creator@qt-project.org; developm...@qt-project.org Subject: Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator Hi, Repos can be relocated to new homes if really needed, but I think it’s fair to say more generic location is definitely preferred from Qt 3D Studio point of view. To make this even easier I’d even start with a playground repo if nothing else can be found. Qt has always been (despite our vocal and sometimes a bit harsh dialogue) inclusive, so it should be fine to go and experiment with all things UI related. Just to see if something is worth the effort or not. Regards, Pasi From: Development <development-bounces+pasi.keranen=qt...@qt-project.org> on behalf of Maurice Kalinowski <maurice.kalinow...@qt.io> Date: Friday, 23 February 2018 at 9.33 To: Tino Pyssysalo <tino.pyssys...@qt.io>, Simon Hausmann <simon.hausm...@qt.io>, Tuukka Turunen <tuukka.turu...@qt.io>, "qt-creator@qt-project.org" <qt-creator@qt-project.org>, "developm...@qt-project.org" <developm...@qt-project.org> Subject: Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator “The idea is to develop a generic library/plugin, which anyone could use for analytics” If that is the case, then qt-creator/telemetry is the wrong repository to ask for. If you are aiming at something generic, then it should be qt/ Maurice Von: Qt-creator [mailto:qt-creator-bounces+maurice.kalinowski=qt...@qt-project.org] Im Auftrag von Tino Pyssysalo Gesendet: Thursday, February 22, 2018 2:59 PM An: Simon Hausmann <simon.hausm...@qt.io>; Tuukka Turunen <tuukka.turu...@qt.io>; qt-creator@qt-project.org; developm...@qt-project.org Betreff: Re: [Qt-creator] [Development] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator Hi, The idea is to develop a generic library/plugin, which anyone could use for analytics. The backend can be any storage and The Qt Company does not provide that. We plan to use the same backend, which we already use in online installers to collect statistics about installations. At least in case of Qt Creator, the plan is to make some analysis results available for the community. Obviously, we do not do that for our commercial tooling. Analytics is opt-in and disabled by default in Qt Creator. We plan to ask user in the installer, if the user wish to participate in Qt UX improvement. If the answers is no, the analytics plugin is never installed. When the creator is started for the first time, it will show a dialog, consisting a list of collected data items and an option to enable/disable the plugin. There will be a new output pane, which shows collected data, conversions methods, if any used, and transmitted data to the user. -- Tino On 22/02/2018, 15.26, "Simon Hausmann" <simon.hausm...@qt.io<mailto:simon.hausm...@qt.io>> wrote: Hi, Can you provide a bit more information about how this plugin / frontend fits into the Qt project? Where is the collected data sent to and how is it accessible to the community? (-1 from me, as I think this needs to be clarified) Simon ________________________________ From: Development <development-bounces+simon.hausmann=qt...@qt-project.org<mailto:development-bounces+simon.hausmann=qt...@qt-project.org>> on behalf of Tuukka Turunen <tuukka.turu...@qt.io<mailto:tuukka.turu...@qt.io>> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 2:14:14 PM To: Tino Pyssysalo; qt-creator@qt-project.org<mailto:qt-creator@qt-project.org>; developm...@qt-project.org<mailto:developm...@qt-project.org> Subject: Re: [Development] [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator Hi, +1 for creating the repo, but what about qt/qtanalytics as a name? This item could be useful also for other applications. Yours, Tuukka From: Qt-creator <qt-creator-bounces+tuukka.turunen=qt...@qt-project.org<mailto:qt-creator-bounces+tuukka.turunen=qt...@qt-project.org>> on behalf of Tino Pyssysalo <tino.pyssys...@qt.io<mailto:tino.pyssys...@qt.io>> Date: Thursday, 22 February 2018 at 13.04 To: "qt-creator@qt-project.org<mailto:qt-creator@qt-project.org>" <qt-creator@qt-project.org<mailto:qt-creator@qt-project.org>> Subject: [Qt-creator] Requesting repository for telemetry plugin in Qt Creator Description: Telemetry plugin (frontend) to collect usage data from Qt Creator to help improving Qt, Qt features, and Qt tools. Non-personal data items, such as duration the user spent in design mode, will be collected in a way, which is completely transparent to the user. Responsible: Tino Pyssysalo Repository: qt-creator/plugin-telemetry --- Tino Pyssysalo Senior Manager The Qt Company Hämeenkatu 14 C 25 33100 Tampere, Finland tino.pyssys...@qt.io<mailto:tino.pyssys...@qt.io> +358 40 8615475 http://qt.io<http://qt.io/> The future is Written with Qt ---
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