Sorry to prove you wrong, I just did some experimenting today with QtJambi
compiling on Windows 7 and MSVC2008.

To test deployment, I did a fresh install of Windows XP, service pack 3, and
tested an install using the generated library jar. It worked like a charm,
no problem...

So, my guess is that there is something wrong with the dependencies of the
dll's in Brunos install package, as he suspects in a mail previously.

Regards,
Helge Fredriksen

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Frank Bergmann
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Sorry to chime in. I just wanted to say that this approach won’t work. Your
> only solution is to compile with VS2005. The reason is that in VS2008
> Microsoft had the clever idea, that it would be great if they would control
> the runtime. So they changed the loading procedure so that the VC90.CRT is
> only loaded from a protected folder from your windows installation. This
> description might not do it justice so you might want to read up on:
>
>
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa376307(VS.85).aspx<http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa376307%28VS.85%29.aspx>
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms235342.aspx
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms235624.aspx
>
>
>
> the VC80 Runtime did allow to be deployed in the directory, and according
> to rumors VS 2010 will allow that as well. If you end up using MSVC2008, you
> will have to actually execute the Visual C runtime installer on each
> machine, where Qt-Jambi should run (moreover it requires admin privileges,
> so that would already destroy the WebStart scenario). For all these reasons
> I would argue not to use it for the time being. In case you don’t have
> MSVC2005, you could also try the express editions:
>
>
>
> *http://shrinkster.com/1cle* <http://shrinkster.com/1cle>
>
>
>
> I hope this helps
>
> Best
>
> Frank
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Helge Fredriksen
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:51 AM
> *To:* Klemens Loschy
>
> *Cc:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [Qt-jambi-interest] Fwd: Fwd: Problem with QtJambi 4.6 Win
> 32 Community
>
>
>
> Very good information, Klemens.
>
> It really looks like there might be some bugs here.
>
> I have just compiled a version here of QtJambi on Windows 7 using MSVC
> 2008.
>
> Looking into the generated lib jar, I can observe the same as you in
> qtjambi-deployment.xml:
>
>
>  <library name="bin/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/Microsoft.VC90.CRT.manifest" 
> load="never" />
>
>   <library name="bin/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/msvcm90.dll" load="never" />
>
>   <library name="bin/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/msvcp90.dll" load="never" />
>
>   <library name="bin/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/msvcr90.dll" load="never" />
>
>
> One could test if changing this in the build system to remove the
> load="never" changes
> things to the better, or if one has to do something about the
> NativeLibraryManager.java
> code as well (which it seems like looking at your code sniplet).
>
> Helge
>
> Klemens Loschy wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> in my opinion, YES. A msvc2005 build is startable, a mingw build and msvc2008 
> is not (on win-xp) because of the unsatisfied link error -> the qtcore dll 
> depends on the mingw/msvc dlls. BUT if you copy the mingw/msvc2008 dlls in a 
> directy which is included in the PATH variable, everything works fine.
>
>
>
> But i think i found a solution (at least for a mingw build) for the 
> dependency problems (i shared it on the mailing list at 13.11.2009)
>
>
>
> ---->
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> i had some time to dig deeper into my dll dependency problem. I read the
>
> qtjambi-deployment.xml and the NativeLibraryManager.java more precise and i
>
> found a very interesting thing:
>
>
>
> qtjambi-deployment.xml:
>
> <library name="lib/libstdc++.so.6" load="yes" />
>
>
>
> NativeLibraryManager.java:
>
> 205    String load = attributes.getValue("load");
>
> 206    if (load != null && load.equals("true")) e.load = LOAD_TRUE;
>
> 207    else if (load != null && load.equals("never")) e.load = LOAD_NEVER;
>
> 208    else e.load = LOAD_FALSE;
>
>  The "load" value in the xml says "yes" and the NativeLibraryManager checks
>
> against "true"??? If i change the value in the xml to "true" or add change
>
> the .java file to accept "yes" and "true", the dll dependency problems are
>
> gone.
>
>
>
> I dont know which part of the build is wrong (the java part or the part
>
> which creates the deployment xml) but i think this is a serious problem (at
>
> least on windows platforms).
>
>
>
> br klemens
>
>
>
> ----->
>
>
>
> This helps at least with the mingw build. The qtjambi with msvc2008 is a 
> little bit different:
>
>
>
> qtjambi-deployment.xml:
>
>   <library name="bin/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/Microsoft.VC90.CRT.manifest" 
> load="never" />
>
>   <library name="bin/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/msvcm90.dll" load="never" />
>
>   <library name="bin/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/msvcp90.dll" load="never" />
>
>   <library name="bin/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/msvcr90.dll" load="never" />
>
>
>
> The msvc2008 dlls should not be loaded by jambi (at least the xml says so).
>
>
>
> Here are more informations about the dll dependencies: 
> doc.trolltech.com/qtjambi-4.5.2_01/com/trolltech/qt/qtjambi-deployment.html
>
>
>
> br, klemens
>
>
>
>
>
> Mit freundlichen Gruessen,
>
>
>
> Klemens Loschy
>
> SEQIS Consulting
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
>
>
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>
>
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>
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>
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>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Bruno Janvier" <[email protected]> 
> <[email protected]>
>
> Cc: [email protected]
>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 8:58:45 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [Qt-jambi-interest] Fwd: Fwd: Problem with QtJambi 4.6 Win 32 
> Community
>
>
>
> Hi Klemens,
>
>
>
> you mean that Microsoft.VC90.CRT is shipped in the jar but won't be used
>
> at all ?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Bruno
>
>
>
> On 1/27/2010 8:49 AM, Klemens Loschy wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Win7 should work fine because the msvc2008 dlls are already pre-installed, i 
> have tested the build on win7 and everything was working. on win-xp only the 
> msvc2005 dlls are pre-installed.
>
>
>
> br, klemens
>
>
>
> Mit freundlichen Gruessen,
>
>
>
> Klemens Loschy
>
> SEQIS Consulting
>
> _________________________________________
>
> SEQIS GmbH - The Austrian Software Test Experts!
>
> Neusiedler Straße 36, 2340 Mödling, Austria
>
> Telefon: +43 2236 320 320 - 0
>
> Fax: +43 2236 320 320 - 350
>
> mobil: +43 664 TESTS 06 (+43 664 83787 06)
>
>
>
> web http://www.SEQIS.com, http://www.KeepLiquid.com
>
> ________________________________
>
>
>
> *Frank Bieser, CIO, HEROLD Business Data GmbH*, über SEQIS:
>
> 'Die Zusammenarbeit mit SEQIS in unseren Projekten ist von einem Hoechstmass 
> an Professionalitaet und Zielorientierung gepraegt.
>
> Zahlreiche gemeinsame Vorhaben wurden partnerschaftlich und hoch erfolgreich 
> abgewickelt. Auch fuer die Zukunft sehen wir in SEQIS einen unserer 
> verlaesslichsten Partner.'
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> http://www.SEQIS.com/disclaimer
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Helge Fredriksen"<[email protected]> <[email protected]>
>
> To: "Bruno Janvier"<[email protected]> <[email protected]>
>
> Cc: [email protected]
>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 8:42:12 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [Qt-jambi-interest] Fwd: Fwd: Problem with QtJambi 4.6 Win 32 
> Community
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I have done some testing a while ago, but only on Windows 7 where it seems to 
> work with the
>
> designer and the demo app at least.
>
>
>
> However, I have a target machine I can borrow on Windows XP here, how do I 
> reproduce this
>
> problem Rene? Just by running the demo app?
>
>
>
> Helge
>
>
>
> Bruno Janvier wrote:
>
>
>
> The line that is interesting in your log is the following:
>
>
>
> Caused by: java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: C:\Documents and 
> Settings\inno\Local
>
> Settings\Temp\QtJambi_inno_x86_4.6.0_msvc2008-20100115-1352\bin\QtCore4.dll: 
> Thi
>
> s application has failed to start because the application configuration is 
> incor
>
> rect. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem
>
>
>
>
>
> Can you use dependency walker on this dll to see what could be missing on 
> your system?
>
> http://dependencywalker.com/
>
>
>
> Another thing to try:
>
> if you just delete the folder "C:\Documents and Settings\inno\Local
>
> Settings\Temp\QtJambi_inno_x86_4.6.0_msvc2008-20100115-1352", does it work 
> well afterwards ?
>
>
>
> On 1/27/2010 8:01 AM, Rene wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>
> From: Rene<  [email protected]>
>
> Date: 2010/1/27
>
> Subject: Re: [Qt-jambi-interest] Fwd: Problem with QtJambi 4.6 Win 32 
> Community
>
> To: Bruno Janvier<  [email protected]>
>
>
>
>
>
> whats the name of dll that I should check ? you mean in qtjambi jar ? I see 
> this there /bin/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/.. so I vc files are included , well you 
> see it in that log too.
>
>
>
> , it is clean install of xp without updates so it is surely older then year 
> 2008 , maybe Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 compiled requires some newer dll to 
> work.
>
> Maybe when I update xp it will work , but on the other side if that is the 
> case , maybe it would better to build using 2005 as previous versions was , 
> for greater compatibility.
>
>
>
> Thanx.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 7:07 AM, Bruno Janvier<  [email protected]> 
>  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I have tested with XP, Vista and 7. it worked for me.
>
> It was build with the MSVC 2008 Express Edition.
>
>
>
> The jambi 4.5.2 was build with MSVC 2005.
>
>
>
> Could it be that a dll from Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable Package 
> (x86)
>
> is missing in the package ?
>
>
>
> Can you check ?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 1/27/2010 6:04 AM, Rene wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>
> From: Rene<  [email protected]>
>
> Date: 2010/1/27
>
> Subject: Re: [Qt-jambi-interest] Problem with QtJambi 4.6 Win 32 Community
>
> To: Bruno Janvier<  [email protected]>
>
>
>
>
>
> Windows Xp sp 2
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 5:39 AM, Bruno Janvier<  [email protected]> 
>  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Which windows are you using?
>
>
>
> XP ?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 1/26/2010 10:20 PM, Rene wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Tested Win32 build of QtJambi 4.6 and it seems to have some problem. Linux 
> build is working.
>
>
>
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError
>
> at com.trolltech.qt.QtJambiObject.<clinit>(QtJambiObject.java:60)
>
> at notify.PopupAnimator.<init>(PopupAnimator.java:17)
>
> at notify.PluginNotify.<init>(PluginNotify.java:31)
>
> at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance0(Native Method)
>
>
>
> at sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(Unknown Source)
>
>
>
> at sun.reflect.DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(Unknown Sou
>
> rce)
>
> at java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Unknown Source)
>
> at java.lang.Class.newInstance0(Unknown Source)
>
> at java.lang.Class.newInstance(Unknown Source)
>
> at library.common.java._Class.newInstance(_Class.java:65)
>
> at library.common.java._Class.new_object(_Class.java:59)
>
> at library.plugin.PluginLoader.load_plugins(PluginLoader.java:39)
>
> at library.plugin.PluginLoader.<init>(PluginLoader.java:21)
>
> at library.plugin.PluginRuntime.<init>(PluginRuntime.java:39)
>
> at library.plugin.Main.main(Main.java:10)
>
> Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: Loading library failed, progress so 
> far:
>
> Unpacking .jar file: 'qtjambi-win32-msvc2008-4.6.0.jar'
>
> Checking Archive 'qtjambi-win32-msvc2008-4.6.0.jar'
>
> - cache key='msvc2008-20100115-1352'
>
> - adding 'QtCore4.dll' to library map
>
> - library: name='bin/QtCore4.dll',
>
> - adding 'QtGui4.dll' to library map
>
> - library: name='bin/QtGui4.dll',
>
> - adding 'QtXml4.dll' to library map
>
> - library: name='bin/QtXml4.dll',
>
> - adding 'QtSql4.dll' to library map
>
> - library: name='bin/QtSql4.dll',
>
> - adding 'QtSvg4.dll' to library map
>
> - library: name='bin/QtSvg4.dll',
>
> - adding 'QtNetwork4.dll' to library map
>
> - library: name='bin/QtNetwork4.dll',
>
> - adding 'QtOpenGL4.dll' to library map
>
> - library: name='bin/QtOpenGL4.dll',
>
> - adding 'QtWebKit4.dll' to library map
>
> - library: name='bin/QtWebKit4.dll',
>
> - adding 'QtXmlPatterns4.dll' to library map
>
> - library: name='bin/QtXmlPatterns4.dll',
>
> - adding 'phonon4.dll' to library map
>
> - library: name='bin/phonon4.dll',
>
> - library: name='plugins/phonon_backend/phonon_ds94.dll', never load
>
> - library: name='plugins/imageformats/qjpeg4.dll', never load
>
> - library: name='plugins/imageformats/qgif4.dll', never load
>
> - library: name='plugins/imageformats/qmng4.dll', never load
>
> - library: name='plugins/imageformats/qtiff4.dll', never load
>
> - library: name='plugins/imageformats/qsvg4.dll', never load
>
> - library: name='plugins/iconengines/qsvgicon4.dll', never load
>
> - library: name='plugins/codecs/qcncodecs4.dll', never load
>
> - library: name='plugins/codecs/qjpcodecs4.dll', never load
>
> - library: name='plugins/codecs/qkrcodecs4.dll', never load
>
> - library: name='plugins/codecs/qtwcodecs4.dll', never load
>
> - library: name='plugins/accessible/qtaccessiblewidgets4.dll', never load
>
> - library: name='plugins/sqldrivers/qsqlite4.dll', never load
>
> - adding 'qtjambi.dll' to library map
>
> - library: name='bin/qtjambi.dll',
>
> - adding 'com_trolltech_qt_core.dll' to library map
>
> - library: name='bin/com_trolltech_qt_core.dll',
>
> - adding 'com_trolltech_qt_gui.dll' to library map
>
> - library: name='bin/com_trolltech_qt_gui.dll',
>
> - adding 'com_trolltech_qt_xml.dll' to library map
>
> - library: name='bin/com_trolltech_qt_xml.dll',
>
> - adding 'com_trolltech_qt_sql.dll' to library map
>
> - library: name='bin/com_trolltech_qt_sql.dll',
>
> - adding 'com_trolltech_qt_svg.dll' to library map
>
> - library: name='bin/com_trolltech_qt_svg.dll',
>
> - adding 'com_trolltech_qt_network.dll' to library map
>
> - library: name='bin/com_trolltech_qt_network.dll',
>
> - adding 'com_trolltech_qt_opengl.dll' to library map
>
> - library: name='bin/com_trolltech_qt_opengl.dll',
>
> - adding 'com_trolltech_qt_phonon.dll' to library map
>
> - library: name='bin/com_trolltech_qt_phonon.dll',
>
> - adding 'com_trolltech_qt_webkit.dll' to library map
>
> - library: name='bin/com_trolltech_qt_webkit.dll',
>
> - adding 'com_trolltech_qt_xmlpatterns.dll' to library map
>
> - library: name='bin/com_trolltech_qt_xmlpatterns.dll',
>
> - library: 
> name='plugins/imageformats/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/Microsoft.VC90.CRT.man
>
> ifest', never load
>
> - library: name='plugins/imageformats/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/msvcm90.dll', never 
> lo
>
> ad
>
> - library: name='plugins/imageformats/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/msvcp90.dll', never 
> lo
>
> ad
>
> - library: name='plugins/imageformats/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/msvcr90.dll', never 
> lo
>
> ad
>
> - library: 
> name='plugins/iconengines/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/Microsoft.VC90.CRT.mani
>
> fest', never load
>
> - library: name='plugins/iconengines/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/msvcm90.dll', never 
> loa
>
> d
>
> - library: name='plugins/iconengines/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/msvcp90.dll', never 
> loa
>
> d
>
> - library: name='plugins/iconengines/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/msvcr90.dll', never 
> loa
>
> d
>
> - library: 
> name='plugins/codecs/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/Microsoft.VC90.CRT.manifest'
>
> , never load
>
> - library: name='plugins/codecs/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/msvcm90.dll', never load
>
> - library: name='plugins/codecs/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/msvcp90.dll', never load
>
> - library: name='plugins/codecs/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/msvcr90.dll', never load
>
> - library: 
> name='plugins/phonon_backend/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/Microsoft.VC90.CRT.m
>
> anifest', never load
>
> - library: name='plugins/phonon_backend/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/msvcm90.dll', never
>
> load
>
> - library: name='plugins/phonon_backend/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/msvcp90.dll', never
>
> load
>
> - library: name='plugins/phonon_backend/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/msvcr90.dll', never
>
> load
>
> - library: name='bin/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/Microsoft.VC90.CRT.manifest', never 
> loa
>
> d
>
> - library: name='bin/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/msvcm90.dll', never load
>
> - library: name='bin/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/msvcp90.dll', never load
>
> - library: name='bin/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/msvcr90.dll', never load
>
> - library: 
> name='plugins/accessible/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/Microsoft.VC90.CRT.manif
>
> est', never load
>
> - library: name='plugins/accessible/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/msvcm90.dll', never 
> load
>
>
>
> - library: name='plugins/accessible/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/msvcp90.dll', never 
> load
>
>
>
> - library: name='plugins/accessible/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/msvcr90.dll', never 
> load
>
>
>
> - library: 
> name='plugins/sqldrivers/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/Microsoft.VC90.CRT.manif
>
> est', never load
>
> - library: name='plugins/sqldrivers/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/msvcm90.dll', never 
> load
>
>
>
> - library: name='plugins/sqldrivers/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/msvcp90.dll', never 
> load
>
>
>
> - library: name='plugins/sqldrivers/Microsoft.VC90.CRT/msvcr90.dll', never 
> load
>
>
>
> - plugin path='plugins'
>
> - using cache directory: 
> 'C:\DOCUME~1\inno\LOCALS~1\Temp\QtJambi_inno_x86_4.6.0
>
> _msvc2008-20100115-1352'
>
> - cache directory exists
>
> Loading library: 'QtCore4.dll'...
>
> - using deployment spec
>
>
>
> at com.trolltech.qt.internal.NativeLibraryManager.loadNativeLibrary(Nati
>
> veLibraryManager.java:431)
>
> at com.trolltech.qt.internal.NativeLibraryManager.loadQtLibrary(NativeLi
>
> braryManager.java:355)
>
> at com.trolltech.qt.Utilities.loadQtLibrary(Utilities.java:145)
>
> at com.trolltech.qt.Utilities.loadQtLibrary(Utilities.java:141)
>
> at com.trolltech.qt.QtJambi_LibraryInitializer.<clinit>(QtJambi_LibraryI
>
> nitializer.java:56)
>
> ... 15 more
>
> Caused by: java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: C:\Documents and 
> Settings\inno\Local
>
> Settings\Temp\QtJambi_inno_x86_4.6.0_msvc2008-20100115-1352\bin\QtCore4.dll: 
> Thi
>
> s application has failed to start because the application configuration is 
> incor
>
> rect. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem
>
> at java.lang.ClassLoader$NativeLibrary.load(Native Method)
>
> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary0(Unknown Source)
>
> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadLibrary(Unknown Source)
>
> at java.lang.Runtime.load0(Unknown Source)
>
> at java.lang.Runtime.load(Unknown Source)
>
> at com.trolltech.qt.internal.NativeLibraryManager.loadLibrary_helper(Nat
>
> iveLibraryManager.java:458)
>
> at com.trolltech.qt.internal.NativeLibraryManager.loadNativeLibrary(Nati
>
> veLibraryManager.java:426)
>
> ... 19 more
>
>
>
> Z:\code\project\eclipse-workspace\application.Player_Simple\Player_Simple_Window
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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