(apologies for top-posting from my phone)

The original question was whether QML has a future now that MeeGo is gone and 
replaced with Tizen and HTML5. My point is that QML, as a technology that fills 
a gap in Qt that is most noticeable in the mobile space, doesn't depend on a 
particular mobile platform, and that there are plenty of examples where it has 
helped delivering great products, without MeeGo.

Point taken wrt positioning of QML. Work on more desktop centric stuff and 
research into respective use cases is work in progress. But for the moment we 
know most about mobile and touch-based user interfaces because that's where we 
had a problem to solve, and where we have validated the solution most 
comprehensively. So that's what we can talk about with confidence.

Technically, Charley's text in this threat is probably some of the most 
accurate positioning I've seen on the topic of what QML is, and he's also right 
in assuming that even we The Trolls don't know enough about desktop usage to 
give high-quality guidance.

Volker

-----Original Message-----
From: ext Mark
Sent:  28.09.2011, 21:50
To: Hilsheimer Volker (Nokia-MP-Qt/Oslo)
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Qt5-feedback] Does QML have a future now that we have Tizen?


On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:07 PM, 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Mark wrote:
> It's primary goal is just gone (Tizen is HTML 5, not QML).

I don't know where the impression comes from that MeeGo, or any particular 
platform in fact, would have been the primary goal of QML. Sure, it was nice to 
see that Qt and QML was for a while a core piece in what might have become a 
successful mobile platform. But fact is that people have been building many 
devices with Linux, Qt and increasingly Qt Quick for years, without waiting for 
MeeGo.

Qt, QtQuick and QML are for developers, and the primary goal is and will be to 
make it easier for developers to create awesome product. The worst thing we as 
developers can do is to wait for some "Technical Steering Group" a'la Tizen and 
LiMo to create a platform that is relevant for us, and even solves (some of) 
our problems for us. Build products with technologies that exist today to solve 
the problems that you have today. And from that perspective, Qt and Linux have 
been beating any HTML5-based technology for years.

Volker

That impression comes from the fact that the Qt folks repeatedly promoted QML 
as "the" thing to use for mobile development. And it "could" be used for the 
desktop but that wasn't the aim of it. Or that's the impression Qt folks gave 
me.

Another thing is the compilation step. It's non existent in pure QML apps and 
that was promoted for mobile use as well since now there was no need to compile 
in slow environments. All things the Qt folks said created a mindset for me 
(and probably a lot of others as well) that QML was for Mobile usage and 
desktop usage was just not much of a topic. Just look at the blogs in Qt labs 
that mention QML for the desktop. There are some but the vast majority is, yet 
again, aimed at mobile stuff.

So that's where my impression came from and that's why i'm asking about the 
future of QML since for me (in my mindset) all the promotion of QML along with 
Mobile usage is just not a case anymore.

Please don't take this wrong. It's certainly not meant to be.
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